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Reverand maynard posted:Hillary as president would have been four years of Republicans passing things like hearing protection act and her being dumb enough to veto it. The current events thread would be completely unbearable. Gun control chat 24/7 with bi weekly bans getting tossed around. Pretty much, but now the HPA is already getting pushback from an unexpected source: http://www.outdoorlife.com/gun-news-law-enforcement-coalition-joins-gun-control-group-to-lobby-against-reciprocity-hearing gently caress you cops, tinnitus is bullshit.
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Capn Beeb posted:Pretty much, but now the HPA is already getting pushback from an unexpected source: lol unexpected?
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May 23, 2017 20:39
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Proud Christian Mom posted:lol unexpected? To the average person, sorta. 
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May 23, 2017 20:46
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As much as I would love easily access to suppressors a DC sniper scenario but with a suppress rifle would be a nightmare. Image a coordinated group taking potshots at civilians and/or cops in an urban environment where a suppressed rifle shot would be a lower volume than just the background noise of traffic Now imagine that the year is 2021 and terrorists use suppressors in a sustained sniper terror campaign and democrats control the white house and congress. PookBear fucked around with this message at 21:07 on May 23, 2017 |
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May 23, 2017 21:04
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Imagine a competent machinist making a functional suppressor or worse. The deeper argument against guns has always been that they're an easily accessible way for one disgruntled person to kill others. Removing guns and suppressors doesn't change the fraction of deady incidents involving weapons of opportunity (which may be guns or may be knives or bludgeons) and most certainly doesn't stop premeditated destruction. For example an average college chemistry student is deadlier per capita than an average person with a gun. If you assume educated people are less likely to commit violent crimes than said student is far less of a threat overall. So students with access to deadly materials are vetted not at all. Because we assume they'll be law abiding citizens and not use their knowledge for ill. Same with an engineering student, skilled machinist, or intellectual forums poster. Suppressors are something law abiding citizens should be able to buy and register. Register is kinda key there, because it allows tracking on the back end in case other events go south and you need to investigate. A terrorist group competent enough to conduct "a sustained sniper terror" campaign can easily source suppressors already.
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May 23, 2017 21:19
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Yeah I'm in favor of making suppressors easier for people to obtain by streamlining the process so that it doesn't take however many months to get your stamp from the ATF, but completely deregulating them would be incredibly dumb.
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May 23, 2017 21:22
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M_Gargantua posted:Suppressors are something law abiding citizens should be able to buy and register. Register is kinda key there, because it allows tracking on the back end in case other events go south and you need to investigate. A terrorist group competent enough to conduct "a sustained sniper terror" campaign can easily source suppressors already. So treat that poo poo like a regular firearm instead of an NFA item like the HPA wants to do 
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May 23, 2017 21:50
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The HPA removes suppressors from the NFA
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May 23, 2017 22:01
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M_Gargantua posted:The HPA removes suppressors from the NFA And makes them equally regulated like regular 'ol firearms, yeah? Not like I can pop into the hardware store and just buy one without a NICS check and poo poo.
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May 23, 2017 22:07
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Maybe yall should stop cooking up wild theoretical situations to justify something. The biggest threat is always going to be a concealable small caliber pistol
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May 23, 2017 22:46
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The biggest threat is these guns *flexes biceps*
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May 23, 2017 22:53
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Woof Blitzer posted:Maybe yall should stop cooking up wild theoretical situations to justify something. The biggest threat is always going to be a concealable small caliber pistol Which were on the NFA until a lot of people realized that the privilege tax to own their preferred defensive firearm was the same as $$$New Car$$$.
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May 23, 2017 23:00
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Woof Blitzer posted:Maybe yall should stop cooking up wild theoretical situations to justify something. The biggest threat is always going to be a concealable small caliber pistol yeah but that cat is already out of the bag.
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May 23, 2017 23:02
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Yessssss this thread is finally going places
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May 23, 2017 23:11
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Oh snap I was seriousposting  I hope guns are banned, gently caress the police also
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May 23, 2017 23:13
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just give in. let the D&D consume you. this is your safe space.
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May 23, 2017 23:23
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Lol at a bunch of folks who have literally been involved in a hosed quagmire of bullshit that would've been way easier had the everyday populace not had access to firearms advocating easier access to them and various accessories I hope we disarm the populace of the US so the poor Chinese infantryman don't get their WZ-551 shot at on every drat precense patrol when they invade to remove the insane, 90 year old president for life Trump from power
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May 23, 2017 23:32
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ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ BACK the BLUE! 
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May 23, 2017 23:51
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Hey you loving idiots debating about legalizing guns, here's a brilliant idea: make murder illegal. Hmmm now what bitch
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May 24, 2017 00:23
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Zeris posted:Hey you loving idiots debating about legalizing guns, here's a brilliant idea: make murder illegal. Hmmm now what bitch drat you're good
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May 24, 2017 01:05
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Zeris posted:Hey you loving idiots debating about legalizing guns, here's a brilliant idea: make murder illegal. Hmmm now what bitch But what will stop the criminals from murdering????
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May 24, 2017 01:32
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milk milk lemonade posted:Lol at a bunch of folks who have literally been involved in a hosed quagmire of bullshit that would've been way easier had the everyday populace not had access to firearms advocating easier access to them and various accessories I always kind of wondered, in a Red Dawn scenario, how many of the "take my guns from my cold dead hands" types would actually have the balls to die for the cause. Everybody talks big, but I imagine the fight would go out of most people after they watched their neighbors' children burn to death in a napalm strike with the implicit promise that theirs would be next. Edit: poo poo, too drunk for proper spelling/grammar. Arc Light fucked around with this message at 02:38 on May 24, 2017 |
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May 24, 2017 01:43
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Capn Beeb posted:And makes them equally regulated like regular 'ol firearms, yeah? Not like I can pop into the hardware store and just buy one without a NICS check and poo poo. What's the point of going through the process twice? Without the gun, which you already have to get the check for, it's useless.
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May 24, 2017 01:54
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Arc Light posted:I always kind of wondered, in a Red Dawn scenario, how many of the "take my guns from my cold dead hands" types would actually have the balls to die for the cause. I disagree. Many of them would have plenty of "fight". But they would do it during the initial invasion, and get immediately dusted by Soviet air, artillery, and armor. Accomplishing nothing.
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May 24, 2017 02:26
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all the doomsday preppers and militia types always have this idea that its going to just be dudes with guns shooting it out but thats not going to be the scenarios that unfold at all. the cops could have wasted everyone involved in the bundy standoff with a single drone and they would have been completely ineffective.
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MRC48B posted:I disagree. Yeah in the red Dawn insurgency, they'd be a big nuisance until they blew their load on the first sustained firefight and run dry. Alternatively, they'd be too chicken poo poo to resist a big authoritarian government promising to wipe out their enemies, and would maybe even welcome it. My personal guns are for marksmanship and underpants protection. Dying for a cause is hollow.
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May 24, 2017 03:53
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I would flip on my neighbors and offer to kick doors in and send people to the gulags I like being part of the winning team
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May 24, 2017 03:55
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milk milk lemonade posted:I would flip on my neighbors and offer to kick doors in and send people to the gulags poo poo with their records at Waco and Ruby ridge, they can't resist a single engagement with a big bad government.
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May 24, 2017 04:01
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milk milk lemonade posted:I would flip on my neighbors and offer to kick doors in and send people to the gulags Someone who's eyes are wide open, finally.
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May 24, 2017 04:08
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Someone who's eyes are wide open, finally. We can call it "The Flynn Maneuver".
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May 24, 2017 04:13
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As a revolutionary Marxist and a nihilist, let's take it a step further and let our military contractors open up dealerships where you can purchase a monkey model mortar truck or something. No way it can end badly
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MurderBot posted:ban Hillary
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So is Obama taking my guns or
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:So is Obama taking my guns or Yes, but only if you own less than twenty, fifteen of which need to be bought straight from the manufacturer this quarter. this message brought to you by the NRA and the campaign to protect gun manufacturer profits
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:So is Obama taking my guns or He already did
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its a bit different when its resist the us government and potentially die a stupid death, or go back to your big macs and iphones vs resist a foreign invader and potentially die or go back to bread lines and crushing poverty if a bunch of middle eastern rednecks managed to give the most powerful military ever known some problems, im sure our local stock could give some chinese conscripts a run for their money
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May 27, 2017 04:38
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If I'm reading these laws right I can make a 40mm "gun" as long as it's not full auto and I never sell it.
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:its a bit different when its resist the us government and potentially die a stupid death, or go back to your big macs and iphones vs resist a foreign invader and potentially die or go back to bread lines and crushing poverty haha no way bro cause they cant run. just ride their freaking rascal scooters lmfao!!
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:its a bit different when its resist the us government and potentially die a stupid death, or go back to your big macs and iphones vs resist a foreign invader and potentially die or go back to bread lines and crushing poverty pretty sure our chinese/russian overlords wont give a gently caress about winning our hearts and minds
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hey here's a hottake to not poo poo up the CE thread with Obama was a great Republican President and a terrible Democrat one
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