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May 27, 2017 04:03
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mormonpartyboat posted:didnt a chinese company buy out SOE which is why everquest next capsized No it was a Russian oil company acting on behalf of Putin because his daughter wanted to run a comic book mmo. Said Russian company is embroiled in a legal dispute over a Siberian oil well after they employed ex-spetznas mercenaries to go and capture it under force of arms from a Canadian company.
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May 27, 2017 04:03
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this thread is proof that American exceptionalism is alive and well
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May 27, 2017 04:28
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Commerz posted:this thread is proof that American exceptionalism is alive and well Actually I think you'll find that China lies about everything. Now if you'll just take a look at these AAA rated mortgage-backed securities...
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May 27, 2017 05:13
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Commerz posted:poor people shouldn't be involved in stock markets because they're dumb? cool.. Western stock markets are well regulated and efficient enough that it's hard for even dumb investors to lose $$$, the same is not true for China quote:verall despite rhetoric those people would be way better off than poor Americans who invested in their stock market as even despite the crash the shanghai stock market has performed exceedingly well. past performance = future performance ofc Pener Kropoopkin posted:
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May 27, 2017 05:24
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Byolante posted:No it was a Russian oil company acting on behalf of Putin because his daughter wanted to run a comic book mmo. Said Russian company is embroiled in a legal dispute over a Siberian oil well after they employed ex-spetznas mercenaries to go and capture it under force of arms from a Canadian company. 
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May 27, 2017 05:27
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Typo posted:Western stock markets are well regulated and efficient enough that it's hard for even dumb investors to lose $$$, the same is not true for China western stock markets are plagued by bullshit IPOs and constantly crash. they also aren't worth even close to what chinas have been worth for small investors, due to the huge amount of growth china has had. sure, they could've been more efficient if they let Americans and THE GLOBALISTS invest and control corporate boards instead of the CCP. Instead they made markets that worked for the Chinese people. an honorable decision. the fact you're making a past doesn't equal future argument now means you're conceding that you're basing your opinions on how you feel things might go instead of how they have gone. which is I guess why they are poo poo flawed arguments.
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May 27, 2017 05:39
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Commerz posted:western stock markets are plagued by bullshit IPOs and constantly crash. they also aren't worth even close to what chinas have been worth for small investors, due to the huge amount of growth china has had. sure, they could've been more efficient if they let Americans and THE GLOBALISTS invest and control corporate boards instead of the CCP. Instead they made markets that worked for the Chinese people. an honorable decision. the fact that you seem genuinely convinced that the Chinese stock market is a great socialist stable project while Chinese insiders are literally funneling 100s billion to > 1 trillion of $$$ out of the country since 2015 into western assets is somewhere between amusing and concerning, depending on how much $$$ you are current invested in Chinese equity Typo has issued a correction as of 05:49 on May 27, 2017 |
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May 27, 2017 05:46
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Typo posted:the fact that you seem genuinely convinced that the Chinese stock market is a great socialist stable project while Chinese insiders are literally funneling 100s billion to > 1 trillion of $$$ out of the country since 2015 into western assets is somewhere between amusing and concerning, depending on how much $$$ you are current invested in Chinese equity I'm not invested in Chinese equity. Yes there is corruption in Chinese economy, but that is because it is illegal to do many of the things extremely common in the west. we aren't arguing if China is perfect, just comparing it to USA. if you don't think money is being funneled out of the USA in a similar fashion you're mistaken.
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May 27, 2017 05:51
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Commerz posted:western stock markets are plagued by bullshit IPOs and constantly crash. they also aren't worth even close to what
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May 27, 2017 05:52
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lol if you think that any stock market anywhere is going to be equitable for anyone. it's funny to see tankies trip over themselves to defend chinese capitalism just because the ruling party has "communist" in its name
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May 27, 2017 06:15
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Commerz has only been making relative arguments compared to Western markets. It's not like he's saying that the Chinese stock market is socialized.
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May 27, 2017 06:17
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Commerz posted:poor people shouldn't be involved in stock markets because they're dumb? cool.. btw the last crash occurred in 2015, so your entire premise is wrong. Overall despite rhetoric those people would be way better off than poor Americans who invested in their stock market as even despite the crash the shanghai stock market has performed exceedingly well. ordinary people, and also most professionals, who invest in individual stocks in America are also suckers.
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May 27, 2017 06:37
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Renova Group own Columbus Nova, who bought SOE and rebranded it Daybreak. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Nova Here is the court filing for the armed takeover in Siberia quote:In this action, Plaintiff Norex Petroleum Limited ("Norex") asserts eight causes of action, including tort and quote:Plaintiff contends that Defendants conspired to rob Norex of its controlling interest in a Russian oil company http://www.schlamstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Norex-Petroleum-Limted-v-Blavatnik-2015-NY-Slip-Op-51280U.pdf
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May 27, 2017 07:03
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Commerz posted:this thread is proof that American exceptionalism is alive and well i wouldnt call my posts exceptional per se but i do accept the compliment
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May 27, 2017 07:53
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Commerz posted:I'm not invested in Chinese equity. Yes there is corruption in Chinese economy, but that is because it is illegal to do many of the things extremely common in the west. we aren't arguing if China is perfect, just comparing it to USA. if you don't think money is being funneled out of the USA in a similar fashion you're mistaken. that's funny, that's exaclty what your mom told me when she was making me breakfast this morning
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May 27, 2017 08:04
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hey any of u dumb assholes talked about bretton woods itt yet
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May 27, 2017 08:12
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Al! posted:that's funny, that's exaclty what your mom told me when she was making me breakfast this morning it's funny you would say that because I was hanging out with all your friends the other day and they told me that your mum pays them to hang out with you.
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May 27, 2017 09:51
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Commerz posted:it's funny you would say that because I was hanging out with all your friends the other day and they told me that your mum pays them to hang out with you. yeah like i was saying, i cant believe the degrading poo poo ur mom and dad let me do 2 them for minimum wage
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May 27, 2017 09:56
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I dunno, but economic orbs seem to be on a rise lately.
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May 27, 2017 16:18
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Al! posted:hey any of u dumb assholes talked about bretton woods itt yet no but its on my lsit of scotch to try
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May 27, 2017 21:36
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Al! posted:hey any of u dumb assholes talked about bretton woods itt yet
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May 28, 2017 01:05
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commerz: the article you link explicitly mentions a bunch of american mutual funds etc as the holders of these stocks; did you not put it together that the owners of these mutual funds are, in general, otherwise ordinary people who are bought in through their IRAs and 401ks? the ultra-rich don't bother with mutual funds, they have their own poo poo going on with private hedge funds and other nonsense. also this isn't a CBC report with data, it's an essay that is half screed from a single economics professor at one university. the only thing it's saying is that more people in China directly own the stocks they hold instead of utilizing professional money management. at best, that's a development problem in china because the firms that service the middle class don't exist/aren't good at their jobs yet. at worst it's because there's such a mammoth trust deficit in China due to the loving rampant corruption at all levels of the society that people refuse to give their money to dudes in suits. i really don't care enough about this conversation to go searching for bullshit to support one view or the other, but if you look at statistics from corruption NGOs around the world i'm gonna guess you'll find the data supports the worst case far more than the best.
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May 28, 2017 03:28
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Coolguye posted:commerz: the article you link explicitly mentions a bunch of american mutual funds etc as the holders of these stocks; did you not put it together that the owners of these mutual funds are, in general, otherwise ordinary people who are bought in through their IRAs and 401ks? the ultra-rich don't bother with mutual funds, they have their own poo poo going on with private hedge funds and other nonsense. also this isn't a CBC report with data, it's an essay that is half screed from a single economics professor at one university. Yeah that's what i was referring to when I said pensions. The public do have too much trust in the stock market. There is a study from two chinese economists that found the governments announcement of the OBOR policy caused much of the bubble that led to the 2015 crash. People were too optimistic about the capabilities of their government. If we're just arguing about corruption now then yes I don't care either.
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May 28, 2017 05:41
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OBOR is an acronym for O ORB
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May 28, 2017 06:09
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Commerz posted:Yeah that's what i was referring to when I said pensions. The public do have too much trust in the stock market. There is a study from two chinese economists that found the governments announcement of the OBOR policy caused much of the bubble that led to the 2015 crash. People were too optimistic about the capabilities of their government. If we're just arguing about corruption now then yes I don't care either. then the poo poo you linked actually has absolutely nothing to do with egalitarianism the way you claimed it did and you're just kind of walking around in circles on this? i don't even anymore you know what, whatever man, if you think the chinese solution is so much better than go participate in it a little. i guarantee you will be writing traumatized stories that will put you right in stead with the cats posting in the chinese expat thread in gbs within 3 months.
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May 28, 2017 06:52
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Are people in C-Spam really getting tribal over loving stock markets. Jesus.
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May 28, 2017 07:20
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Take all your money out of uber and put it into pork futures, 
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May 28, 2017 07:21
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bring back LF, there is too many people unironically worshiping ameriKKKa in this forum
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May 28, 2017 08:36
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wait a second............................ bubble...................... orb............. bubble..... orb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Commerz posted:bring back LF, there is too many people unironically worshiping ameriKKKa in this forum nobody cares what they think, or what you think, and thats why cspam is better than lf
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May 28, 2017 14:43
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The wealth of LF was its posters, the greatest of which were cruelly permabanned 
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May 28, 2017 18:39
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The wealth of LF was its posters, the greatest of which were cruelly permabanned  inform me on who you considered the "greatest"
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May 28, 2017 18:49
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so is the next one gonna be the Big One or not you p*ssies
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May 28, 2017 20:02
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I'm pussy permabanned for piss politics
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May 28, 2017 20:23
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mister magpie posted:
why maggotmaster ofc
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May 28, 2017 20:49
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:why maggotmaster ofc lol
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May 28, 2017 22:07
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:why maggotmaster ofc is that the guy who pretended to be black for a free pair of jeans courtesy of LF
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May 28, 2017 23:57
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The wealth of LF was its posters, the greatest of which were cruelly permabanned the posting theory of value
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May 29, 2017 00:04
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Byolante posted:is that the guy who pretended to be black for a free pair of jeans courtesy of LF Maggotmaster was the Bolivian (Peruvian?) kid who got perma'd for posting a thread about assassinating Obama.
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May 29, 2017 00:14
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There's a difference between worshippimg amerikkka, and just recognizing that China isn't going to save you, or the world, or China, or anyone else who isn't a ccp member/chinese business leader
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May 29, 2017 00:39
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