Larry Parrish posted:The California DNC is literally the worst lmfao The California.... Democratic National Committee?  Forceholy posted:And single payer in California is suffocated with a pillow. lol yes this is what suffocated it, not the fact that it would cost 4x the entire state budget http://www.latimes.com/politics/ess...-htmlstory.html quote:A single-payer healthcare system in California — a galvanizing cause among the state's progressive flank — would cost $400 billion annually, according to a legislative analysis released on Monday.
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Pawn 17 posted:The democrats deserve everything they are getting and they deserve to lose big in every election until they are dead and gone. i too would love the republicans to remain in power in perpetuity
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May 23, 2017 18:57
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Actually, Hillary lost because she ran a mediocre campaign, the Voting Rights Act dismantling killed voting for poor minorities in key states, and oh yeah, white people suck. this and also bernie ran a fairly white-centric campaign and still lost
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May 23, 2017 19:31
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phasmid posted:So his appeals for a more equal America were racially charged? Or are you just blaming him for Hillary's defeat? The factors of Hillary's defeat were numerous, and starting with her, but Sanders seems to think that as long as you have economic equality everything else will magically fall into place and we'll turn into this rainbow land of unicorns and dreams and lol that will never happen without first dealing with the very real structural and systemic racist issues that are ingrained within the American fabric
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May 23, 2017 19:47
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honestly though Trump is the best thing for democrats because they would have been wiped the f out in the next midterms if she had won
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May 23, 2017 19:48
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phasmid posted:Hillary is after his heart*. They both used broad rhetoric that appealed to emotions, with constant reminders that the way out would not be an easy one. They both promised a land of unicorns. The only difference I see is that Bernie wanted to take gambles that would appeal broadly and Hillary was just a Judas goat for her special interests. Clinton showed no love of poor people, middle class people or minorities. She only cared about her narrowest constituency - big donors. No but I do see in the current undertow of progressivism a sort of benevolent racism, wherein the white people are going to give these policies to the minorities that would supposedly lift them up without dealing with the exposed raw nerves underneath. I'm not saying that this is all current progressivism, but I'm seeing it crop up here and there. I'm also peeved that every time Bernie candidates lose they always fall back on the old VOTER FRAUD canard instead of looking at their own candidates and nominating someone who's acceptable to everyone I'm not a bernie person, and while yes I did vote for Clinton I'm infuriated she won't take any personal responsibility for her loss in this because it always comes down to the candidate, win or lose. My problem is this: if Bernie had won and failed to implement like, anything, then what? every time I asked someone about this they'd be all "well we'd just vote in progressives next time" without honestly understanding like any dynamics of midterms. He was some sort of magical panacea that people stuck their hopes to because Obama didn't pan out to their every wish idk i have feelings on this
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May 23, 2017 19:59
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