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Why does everyone have so much hope for the testimony of the man who ruined Hillary Clinton to a legislative body controlled by the Republicans?
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Mustached Demon posted:Why not? Many people have done face turns. Okay, but even if he does, so what? It's republicans. He could show them videos of Trump pissing on hookers while sucking Putin's cock, and they'd just shrug and call it fake news.
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Jun 7, 2017 04:40
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Tir McDohl posted:Ah, I see. "Nothing matters"? Hah, that is a really funny observation that no one has had before. This is the new post your map.
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Jun 7, 2017 04:45
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Fair point, we should all be hopeless nihilists. We should be whatever reality calls for. If nothing is actually mattering, we have to recognize that.
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Jun 7, 2017 04:59
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Zapf Dingbat posted:The nothing matters comments feel a lot like clinical depression. I think maybe it's actually all the stuff not mattering. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 7, 2017 16:58
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If there's anything I learned from the election, it's that when USPOL (or Trump thread) start trying to clinically diagnose people who think a thing will happen, that thing will probably happen.
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Jun 7, 2017 19:26
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Someone is going to have to explain to me in more detail why that statement means pisstapes are real because I'm not seeing it. We already knew that one reason Comey personally briefed the president was that the allegations in the report were personally embarrassing. That doesn't make them real.
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Jun 7, 2017 20:06
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Alter Ego posted:Why mention them at all then? He was giving context for why the meeting was one on one, probably to head off questions about why he chose to initiate it that way. All other one on one meetings were initiated by trump.
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Jun 7, 2017 20:14
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JohnCompany posted:Because people who are informed about false embarassing charges about themselves don't tend to independently raise those allegations and dispute them without having been asked specifically months later. The March 30 phone call, when Trump says he wasn't involved with Russian hookers specifically and without prompting, is really out of place otherwise. This was just before the media was about to report on the dossier. Of course Trump was gonna Trump about it.
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Jun 7, 2017 20:17
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Feinne posted:Because we already know what he's going to say thanks to the prepared remarks and it does in fact include some juicy stuff. I didn't see anything in that statement I hadn't read in the Washington Post.
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Jun 7, 2017 20:21
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Hellblazer187 posted:Do you not see any difference between sworn testimony of a former FBI director with personal knowledge, and third hand leaks reported to the press, even if they "say the same thing?" Of course there should be a difference in terms of legal actionability, but A. he's talking to republicans, so public opinion is still the only thing that matters, and B. there's nothing new in terms of content, so there's no way to get to "pisstapes are real." There's A1 sauce on the bun but still no burger.
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Jun 7, 2017 20:31
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Rigel posted:yeah, that too. I couldn't put my finger on why I also strongly believed in pisstape after reading this, but thats a big part of it. "Hey come on, like... I knew I'd be recorded, so obviously I wouldn't do something stupid, right? heh... heh?" Trump talked about how the Russians record everything at their hotels a long time ago, before he even ran. He's just repeating something he's said before.
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Jun 7, 2017 20:39
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sean10mm posted:I mean, what the gently caress do you want? I want a portal into the good timeline. I'm not disappointed by this, I just don't understand why it's so exciting.
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Jun 7, 2017 20:43
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remusclaw posted:I wonder how much the Trump Presidency will raise the bar for what makes a scandal? After this, will anything conventional be enough. Would Caligula be enough? Being a democrat
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Jun 7, 2017 21:31
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tek79 posted:I just came to lurk a bit, and see a few pages of pee tape chat. Is that this thread just having a good time, or was something released that would strongly indicate that the tape is real? Nothing new was released about pisstapes, goons are dumb.
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Jun 7, 2017 21:35
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InfiniteZero posted:Remember back before November when it was still possible to effectively argue that crazy unthinkable things wouldn't happen? That only happens with stupid, evil things. Americans are more stupid and evil than we previously thought.
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Jun 7, 2017 23:11
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theflyingorc posted:it sounded like Trump was flat out not being investigated I reccomend you listen to the Lawfare podcast episode about this from a few weeks ago - they explain it really well, and the guy basically predicts exactly what happened. Trump took a denial of a very specific kind of investigation to mean his campaign wasn't being investigated.
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Jun 8, 2017 16:32
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I'm sitting in a room full of republicans watching Fox news coverage of this. Their takeaway is that this is very bad for democrats because of the Loretta Lynch thing. They keep saying he "dropped a bomb" on democrats.
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Jun 8, 2017 18:56
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Ballz posted:I must've blanked out during this part, because I don't remember anything about Loretta Lynch during the testimony. Or was that something that came out of McCain's muddled ramblings? Lynch pressured him to not call the Clinton investigation an investigation.
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Jun 8, 2017 19:22
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One of the old men in the room with me just said "This is a nothingburger."
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Jun 8, 2017 19:23
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Every Republican I've talked to thinks it's a nothingburger or bad for Democrats. People really do live in separate realities.
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Jun 8, 2017 20:59
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The "Carrie Cordero and Paul Rosenzweig Weigh in on Comey" episode of the Lawfare podcast has me so loving depressed. Rosenzweig lays out in pretty convincing ways how the Mueller investigation is going to break down. There is a question of legal obstruction, but it's too difficult to prove from a prosecutor's perspective, so it's going to fall to a political charge. That means convincing Republicans there's a problem, which is never going to happen because Republican representatives are not acting in good faith, and the Republican base is immovable. We're going to have Trump until 2024.
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Jun 10, 2017 09:14
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Groovelord Neato posted:the most annoying thing is people thinking trump would win again. i know nothing matters but how do you people tie your shoes in the morning. we're not even half a year in do you think things are gonna settle down or some poo poo?> Post your loving map.
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Jun 10, 2017 09:17
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Flesh Forge posted:For that matter I expect the Rs will run an opposing candidate. Christ, this thread is delusional sometimes.
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Jun 10, 2017 09:32
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Flesh Forge posted:Three years is a long time dude Not long enough to go from the current Republican structure of nearly-unmitigated support to somehow primarying the sitting president of their own party. That would require every republican in congress to suddenly become politically suicidal. Edit: not even just congress, the entire party infrastructure. The heat death of the universe will happen first. We are on year 1 of 8, friend.
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Jun 10, 2017 09:37
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Captain Invictus posted:man it's so cool that you and those guys know everything going on in the mueller investigation, care to share with the rest of us? Or you can shut up and stop your endless nothing matters posting until the investigation actually starts moving on things rather than just investigating? Like seriously I get being hopeless with such a hosed, corrupt, hateful administration. I do. But there are a LOT of people actively working to bring them to justice, and by what they've hinted at, it's a lot worse than what's currently public. So don't give up, just yet. We're not at the point of total despair just yet. I told you exactly what I'm commenting on - a podcast by people who absolutely know what they're talking about. If you'd like to tell me why they're wrong, I'd love to hear it.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:03
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Captain Invictus posted:Are they in the mueller investigation, privy to what they have classified? If not, it's purely speculation. Paul Rosenzweig's speculation is orders of magnitudes more authoritative than the speculation of anyone in this thread.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:07
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But hey don't worry man, if I want stolen steam codes I'll come to you
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Jun 10, 2017 10:08
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Captain Invictus posted:this has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion and you're just making false accusations of my business for no reason other than personal attack since you've got nothing. Shameful, really. SAD (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 10, 2017 10:12
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awesmoe posted:can you explain what (the gently caress) the relationship between a republican primary challenger and "every republican in congress" becoming politically suicidal is? You're absolutely right, it would require the entire party to go insane, as I said in my edit.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:31
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If Trump fires the special counsel, how is he going to face repercussions? This isn't the same political environment Nixon faced. As far as I can tell, there's nobody both willing and able to call him to account.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:11
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I'm not encouraged by the left version of civil war preppers as a political solution.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:22
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theflyingorc posted:This is one of the only things he could do that could give the Democrats a serious chance at the senate I already got probated for low effort posting in this thread, so I'll resist the urge to just post "lol." I don't think this is a likely outcome.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:25
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So, did they have to call him out on the Schrodinger's Executive Privilege during the hearing, or can they hold him in contempt after the fact?
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Jun 13, 2017 22:36
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Jaxyon posted:He's not getting held in contempt. He's a Republican. I already know that Most Things Don't Matter, but theoretically.
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Jun 13, 2017 22:40
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<Bernie> Democrats are too centrist! Please don't ask me about abortion rights.
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Jun 13, 2017 22:51
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Overwined posted:It's funny that Petr wants to drag the most polarizing political issue into a conversation where no mention has been made about it. It's totally off topic for this thread, but only in so far as "Bernie Sanders is awesome!" is off-topic, and I'm not the one who started that. In the interests of not derailing, folks can google "bernie sanders abortion" themselves.
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Jun 13, 2017 23:00
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Xae posted:Men love interrupting women. Nope, I'm a nice guy.
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Jun 13, 2017 23:12
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The Glumslinger posted:I interrupt everyone, just Kramering my way through life I tip my fedora egalitarianly to all humans.
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Sephyr posted:As a foreigner, I have to ask: Is anyone here from Louie Gohmert's district or knows it well? What kind of place elects and re-elects someone so consistently dumb and vile? He reps a blood-red Texas district that would sooner secede than vote for a Democrat.
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