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Uh, Bill, this is basically saying the leakers don't exist but Trump is committing treason.
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You guys realize the republican-led CBO board is not going to let a score pass through that doesn't allow for reconciliation. Even if they have to lie to everyone's faces well that's just Republicans for you: Traitors, Liars, thieves.
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May 24, 2017 21:28
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Alter Ego posted:Is there any chance the CBO score isn't as bad as we've been predicting? Republicans run the board. Expect them to give a rosey opinion along party lines.
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May 24, 2017 21:33
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evilweasel posted:It qualifies for reconciliation. Knew it.
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May 24, 2017 21:34
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Rigel posted:It does appear that it will be reconciliation-compatible. No house revote needed, I think. The board is republican-led. There was no way in hell it wouldn't be reconciliation compatible.
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May 24, 2017 21:38
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Rigel posted:The CBO summary acidly remarked that they aren't counting people who buy the poo poo insurance the GOP will offer as being insured. That was them getting around what Bloomberg point it out. By doing it that way it passes reconciliation while lying about the fact that it actually doesn't save money period I told you republican-led board will lie and cheat and steal and that's what they just did.
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May 24, 2017 21:40
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This thing will pass the Senate. Just like last time some Republicans will be given a hall pass. But Pence will laugh as he confirms the vote with his tie breaker. This is Devos 2.0. I've been telling people that Republicans will try to kill as many people as possible while they have power. No one believed me. This bill confirms it as will it's confirmation in the Senate. There is no filibuster. There is no hope. Republicans will retain the senate in 2018. This is reality.
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May 24, 2017 22:33
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FourLeaf posted:If I'm not mistaken they only have about 2 vulnerable Senate seats out of the 8 GOP seats up in 2018, so I agree that what they'll do is let the final vote be 50-50 + Pence as tiebreaker to get it passed and those two Senators can go home and say "I had concerns about the bill" and safely hang on to their seats. This guy gets it. There is no hope. What will happen is political theater. Just like with DeVos. I said it back when this past the house but it will pass the Senate unchanged. I will be right about this again. It will play out exactly as I said and everyone else will be shot it happened. Lote posted:This bill doesn't start saving money for the average premium until 2021 or after. In the meanwhile, premiums will increase +25% on top of any predicted Obamacare premium increases. The forecast is basically +50-70% premiums in 2020 from 2017 premiums. This will crush the Republican Party. White non-educated working class aged 50-64 went for Trump like 65/35. I'm sorry mate but you just don't get it. Do you know what's on the news right now? It isn't anything to do with the CBO. Right now they're talking about the Manchester incident. That's what's going to happen. Fox News and the right-wing media will never report on the problems. Trump voters only listen to the right-wing media. If people raise concerns they'll blame Democrats. The Republicans will be unaffected. It doesn't matter what Trump does or what the Republicans do because their voters are sheep and the Republicans know that period we're not dealing with intelligent life we're dealing with highly trained animals that are acting exactly as their masters want. That's all you're going to find in the head of a trump voter or republican in general. They are just animal they are not human. Do not expect anything related to empathy from them. Empathy comes from humans. Cruelty comes from Republicans. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 24, 2017 22:49
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glowing-fish posted:Sorry, Binghamton, New York, Toledo, Ohio, and Grand Rapids, Michigan. I don't blame you for not knowing about Binghamton. I went to college there and it sucked. Dead rear end town. Nothing much to do there outside the college and the bars. Speech to text can be iffy.
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May 24, 2017 22:56
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Jesus christ, shut the gently caress up, you lovely loving gimmick. I legitimately don't understand why you haven't just killed yourself already. I do write my congressman, phone bank for Democrats, and volunteered at soup kitchen. I also do other things. But this election taught me that a bunch of people telling me everything is alright is the wrong advice to take. Those people are always wrong and things are always worse than you expect. The bad thing will always happen and the evil guys will always win. So you got a fight as hard as possible to eke out some kind of pathetic victory. That's all that goodness will ever achieve in this universe for we live in a very uncaring place and our lives do not matter. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 24, 2017 23:05
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exploded mummy posted:as someone who also went to college there Wait, what Carousel and Rod Serling?
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May 25, 2017 00:39
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exploded mummy posted:there's more than one carousel in the carousel capital of the world dude That's weird. The Road Serling thing never came up. The college certainly loved to remind me that Flo graduated from the college, for some reason.
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May 25, 2017 01:45
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exploded mummy posted:when our other notable alumni are Tony Kornheiser and Paul Reiser I can see why Who the gently caress are those people? Were one of those the accountant who sold private information that they all used as a example of "don't-do-this-or-you'll-go-to-jail!"?
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May 25, 2017 02:09
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exploded mummy posted:Kornheriser is a sportswriter and one of the creator's of ESPN's PTI (the white bald dude) and Reiser was a star of Mad About You Learn something new every day.
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May 25, 2017 19:11
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Considering the heavy early voting in Montana, expect the R to win despite body slamming the reporter. Considering that only two senate seats are vulnerable in 2018, even if they are using this period as a test for blowback, it's easy to see the AHCA passing regardless.
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May 26, 2017 01:41
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:If it's true that Covok is 24 then his gimmick is mostly explained by the fact that the consequence-understanding part of his brain is finally starting to grow in. Most people in their mid-twenties go through a phase where they're in the thrall of what amounts to brain-puberty. You get a spike in anxiety, obsessions with bad outcomes, and what's weirdly common is a certainty that you'll die young, which is your newfound ability to grasp mortality fighting with your adolescent conviction that you're special and something noteworthy is destined to happen to you. You have a serious problem. exploded mummy posted:where ever he lives now isn't Binghamton Yeah, it's nice being away from that place. The skyline is like loving Mars. You know, gray. A lot of people don't know that, but it's gray. And it's always cold there. Pretty lovely place all around.
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May 26, 2017 02:19
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Knew it: the Republican is going to win. Republicans will double down knowing they can body slam reporters and still win. Welcome to a preview of 2018.
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May 26, 2017 03:23
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Missing Donut posted:For fucks sake wait until all precincts in a county have reported before making conclusions. The precincts that did report were the ones he needed to win and win big. It's pretty much over. A man who assaulted journalists the day before the election won. Democracy in America is a failed experiment, mate.
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May 26, 2017 03:31
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axeil posted:It's p bad It's likely going to go 60-40, R at this point if the rural counties aren't in. Considering Trump's rhetroic, i'm not suprised 9% of people voted R because he assaulted journalists. We just aren't living in a sane nation anymore.
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May 26, 2017 03:34
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Khisanth Magus posted:1/3 of all registered voters in the state mailed in ballots, this needed to happen sooner. Yeah, that's why I said earlier that the amount of early voting made the body slam not matter what's so ever. It's just over for the Dems here, really. Koyaanisgoatse posted:Dude's probably gonna lose but what's important is the amount he loses by. A single-digit loss is still bad news for GOP Yeah, keep running on that one, mate. Maybe one day it will be true.
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May 26, 2017 03:35
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Missing Donut posted:When you learn what a precinct is, you will understand how stupid your post is. The rest left are the heavily rural ones. It's over.
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May 26, 2017 03:35
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Spiritus Nox posted:I'm loving tired of coming loving close. Hillary came close, that didn't stop her from simultaneously be a catastrophic loving failure. The corpses of people who will lose life-saving insurance and die in 2018 will not give a poo poo about how good the odds look for the blues in 2020. And this is what I'm talking about. There is no such thing as a "moral victory" to the out-of-work family of two who just lost their health insurance from the AHCA and, due to the medicaid roll backs, can't afford to keep their eldery parents alive and have to watch them go before their time. All this "numbers" and "it will be fine in 2018" and other self-serving poo poo just serves to piss-off people who know that people will die because we keep losing. Losing is losing in a "winner-take-all" system. If you want people to care or have hope, win.
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May 26, 2017 04:06
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cult member at airport posted:If Republicans end up winning >50% of congressional seats in 2018 by single digits, people in this thread will be saying "But the GOP should have won some of those seats by like 20% This is great news for Democrats in 2020!!" "The Republicans only won both houses by 1%. 2020 will go great!" "Trump only won by 2% this time! The house and senate only went Republican by 1% again! 2026 wave, here we come!" "The new Republican President lost the popular vote! We have a chance in 2032!"
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May 26, 2017 04:09
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fsif posted:This seat was going to be largely symbolic anyway, but unfortunately, instead of symbolizing "uh oh, maybe we gotta taper back on killing our constituents and our deference to the insane corrupt toddler", it symbolizes "ha! gently caress off, journalists.” Yeah, people are forgetting this means its open season on journalists. You can win an election while literally body slamming a reporting. Doesn't mean they'll assault them now, but it sure means they know they don't have to respect or fear journalists. In the most symbolic way possible, the free press in America is neutered. Not from this event, but the slow erosion in confidence due to Republicans politicizing the concept of facts that make it so the people we need to turn against Trump will gladly vote for him due to misinformation.
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May 26, 2017 04:23
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It's brought some much needed levity to this thread. 
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Jun 3, 2017 03:08
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http://www.npr.org/2017/06/03/531088285/trump-s-approval-rate-decline-is-nothing-compared-to-other-presidents
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Jun 3, 2017 18:03
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gently caress, that's crazy. America might literally be a failed democracy now: 80 years for protesting the President.
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Jun 3, 2017 18:08
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Chilichimp posted:Then the optics shift to the RINOs. Republican support will never falter. It is beyond delusion. As a friend of mine in Texas once said, Dems are only winning back Texas one grave at a time. To be clear, implying the Olds dying off is the only hope for Texas ever freeing itself from the disease.
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Jun 4, 2017 00:40
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/871407975029669889 I ain't getting on a plane for the next 8 years now.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:46
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Man, that special prosecutor better prove what we all known: that all republicans are traitors to the state and deserve life imprisonment. I mean, I know that's wishful thinking and WILL NEVER happen, but a man can dream.
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Jun 4, 2017 20:01
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Nixon had 40% approval ratings when he was impeached.
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Jun 4, 2017 21:19
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Egbert Souse posted:It'll be funny if/when Gorsuch votes to strike it down if just for Trump's reaction. I'm not even trying to be "nothing matters" here, but there is a very real situation that their court packing scheme results in the Supreme Court upholding it. Like, Gorusch was appointed by Trump himself. The main chance is Kennedy, really. What I'm saying is that I will be on pins and needles over this. If the SC approves it, that's over on the muslim ban debate: they'd have to approve the belief that the President has the right to restrict access to the country based on Religion. That's a loving Plessy vs Ferguson level of horrible SC decisions. For those who don't know, PvF is the one that created segregation (overturned by Brown vs Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas)
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Jun 4, 2017 22:55
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Fuschia tude posted:A couple pages back: Too many pub crawls have resulted in a population that can't be relied upon to answer a question based on their feelings. (joke)
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Jun 4, 2017 23:42
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:THAT WAS FROM loving HALF COURT Basketball fan or something else? Actually, this is how Police dressed in 1964:  Sounds like it's the same problem (racist cops) with a different outfit. That's literally the 6th GIS result for police in 1964.
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Jun 5, 2017 01:52
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Autism Sneaks posted:If only we were so blessed as to have Trump spend his 4 years doing nothing but using his position to rub elbows and show off to his other C-list celebrity friends. Yeah, Taft 2.0 would have been a blessing.
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Jun 5, 2017 06:46
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Apoplexy posted:gently caress Steve King but gently caress every single loving Republican who had a hand in the active persecution of a goddamn political opponent through defunding a public service. Jesus Christ, is there any loving end to the evil these fucks won't go to? America is broken, seriously. Utterly, utterly broken.
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Jun 5, 2017 07:40
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Jun 5, 2017 17:58
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I have to wonder if Trump is literally the most stupid elected Head of State ever. Emphasis on elected, obviously there were tons of inbred Monarchs. That Italian Prime Minister who hosed all the super models and had 100 mistresses probably ranks up there.
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Jun 5, 2017 20:39
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I know we are all talking about Middle East 2.0, but what are the serious chances that AHCA passes considering McConnell has just fast-tracked the vote?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Evil Weasel explained earlier how this was expected procedure. Okay, I assume that's in the "if they want to pass their own variant on the bill, they need to do this way." So, I guess I just have to worry about another "wait, what the gently caress? we didn't mean to override the Preisdent's vet on this bill! gently caress! gently caress!!! This is the president's fault!" moments.
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