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Rigel
Nov 11, 2016


No! Please no, its too much, save it for tomorrow! The news withdrawal will be so much worse on slow days, ahhhh!

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Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

https://twitter.com/joshgondelman/status/867493557325762561

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Maybe I'm naive, but I assume most conservative parties in other countries are nowhere near as evil as the GOP, and are basically in favor of being a little less generous but still wanting people to be cared for at some level.

Our conservative party is run by a cartoonishly evil brotherhood of supervillains. I imagine people in other countries are confused and horrified for our sake.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

https://twitter.com/amyfiscus/status/867494769018228739

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016


writer is a token female republican

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

https://twitter.com/aparnapkin/status/867497982027059201

The funny thing is that most countries have this. If they elect an evil senile orange hate golem, they can call for early elections.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

welp, thats money Fox wasted, because I assume they are going to bury this.

https://twitter.com/aedwardslevy/status/867501636981313537

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Nothus posted:

Democrats. :ughh:

What is wrong with a AUMF?

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

glowing-fish posted:

OMG...wait

Do you really, seriously, really...think you have mountains.

OMG.

Just...I don't.


Wow.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

3 goons at the same time: "quick, to google images!"

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Its been a while since we've seen an "ICE is evil" story. Undocumented married mother of two had a misdemeanor for driving without a license many years ago, been here since 2008. She was picked up by ICE and scheduled for deportation based on criminal history.

The governor went "ok, gently caress you, I'll pardon her." and ICE was like "lol too late she now has a final order to deport, her criminal history no longer matters!"

https://twitter.com/elisefoley/status/867504708470034432

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

When the eastern edge of your state is over 300 miles away from the ocean, mountains no longer matter. You aren't a loving "east coast state". I'm reluctant to even let Vermont and Pennsylvania claim membership in that group.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

evilweasel posted:

i wonder if glowing fish isn't really clear on how oceans work and thinks that can stop the mighty ocean is a Real Mountain so every so often the entire atlantic floods all the way to, uh, colorado

Oh God, I'm in iowa. I'm going to drown someday, aren't I? :(

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

This really is an amazing graph. The only reason why the black and blue line didn't hit near-zero is because of lovely red states who didn't want to accept the black president's health care. They'd rather die early with their southern pride.

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/867488736602411008

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

stone cold posted:

you know what state really embodies east coast culture to me:

wisconsin

Really sick of those east coast elitists yelling "Go Pack Go!"

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

huh, just got home and over 300 posts in an hour. I wonder what happ......

Oh good lord. Gianforte, you are so God drat stupid its unbelievable.

Good news: this should matter and we might reasonably hope that Quist can win. Bad news: The GOP won't take this as a sign. Of course Gianforte lost, he assaulted a reporter the day before an election, duh. Its unfortunate, but we'll beat Ossof and MAGA.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Its going to be the headline tomorrow in Montana

https://twitter.com/DylanByers/status/867532768854417408

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

The cops are actually moving on this. There could be a warrant for his arrest before the election

https://twitter.com/blakersdozen/status/867533116696440832

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

FourLeaf posted:

If he gets charged with assault, elected, and then convicted, would he resign, thus leading to another special election?

If he doesn't resign, the house could refuse to seat him, and force Montana to hold another special election.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Caros posted:

This will only buy him so much I imagine.

The sherrif is probably going to slow walk this as much as possible so he doesn't have to arrest Gianforte before the election, but if he wins I imagine we'll be seeing an arrest sometime friday morning.

Its fine, because the prosecutor is going to make that call and the sheriff already said they'll meet tomorrow morning.

There's probably a pretty decent chance we'll see an election day arrest if the Fox News tv crew told the police the same thing they are tweeting.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Holy poo poo, Gianforte lost Fox News and will probably be arrested tomorrow.

Quist is gonna win, guys.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Low Desert Punk posted:

I wouldn't be surprised if he left that out, just to see how badly Gianforte's team would lie about it in the statement. From the way he phrased his tweets, it sounds like there is video out there.

We don't need video. 3 witnesses from Fox loving news are coming forward and saying he was punching the reporter.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

As I said before, David Frum (a defiant never Trumper) will probably be insufferable after Trump is gone, but he's an awesome follow right now.

https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/867575067743363072

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

yeah, everyone knows whats going on with Fox. They are burning Gianforte now so that they can explain to their audience that the crazyman who committed a felony in front of 3 and a half witnesses the night before the election did not lose because of Trump or health care.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Lassitude posted:

Cops are generally Republican, so I wouldn't be so sure they'll charge him with anything. Especially if he wins.

The cops don't make charging decisions. The local prosecutor in Bozeman will, and he's probably got to make a decision tomorrow morning now that the police have interviewed everyone.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

This is worth a repost

https://twitter.com/politico/status/867576043858792449

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

At this point, I'm fully expecting Quist to win tomorrow, I'm only wondering if it'll be double-digits, or if early voting has already hosed us out of a blowout.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Spiffster posted:

I'm sorry but after Trump freaking won any logic has been thrown out the window. I will bet on chaos every time until I'm shown otherwise next November

The big difference is that Quist is well-known and liked in Montana. The voters are conflicted because the right-leaning voters are going "he's a nice enough guy and cool musician, but a little too naive and idealistic, I'm afraid we need a good strong republican".

Hillary was loving hated, A literal felony the night before an election is going to push voters towards the guy they kinda non-politically liked as a person anyway.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

skylined! posted:

man how loving excited is quist and his camp right now

They went from "after a long, hard struggle we fought our way up to being a slight underdog, we just might win this thing, but it'll be close" to "holy loving poo poo..... uhhh.... we just need to not gently caress up for 24 hours and its over!"

Quist will probably be safer and more scripted than ever in the final day.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/867577806359855104

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Evil Fluffy posted:

The House isn't going to refuse to seat a Republican winner. They'd sooner impeach and charge the entire Trump administration.

At this point, with the audio and the report from witnesses (including Fox), I will confidently say that even if Gianforte wins tomorrow, the house will not seat him. MT-AL will either be Quist or another special election.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Ladies and gentlemen, this is not election day or even special election day.

This is singin' cowboy day, So lets kick it off with the campaign song for Rob Quist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SukJIPsLpPw

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Pick that guitar, quist!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP4DHRRzUKw

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Play on!

This is why Quist is famous in Montana. This video is well before his campaign a year ago, when he was playing a random gym for school kids. Its just what he does, everyone in MT apparently knows about and has heard their poet and singing cowboy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66iY6tpHbgg

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

If quist loses, it wont be because he was lazy or took voters for granted. He probably spent 10 minutes to convince this dude to remember to vote,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofIkyoryQMw

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Smol posted:

I think I read in NYT that apparently usually over half of Montana votes early. So if Gianforte had a good lead, him losing votes today might not be enough.

except this race was going to be close before the criminal assault. If this was a typical hellhole with a good GOP candidate and a typical dem it may be lost, but we already had a terrific dem, a horrible republican, and a race that was going to be close. The election day voters are going to be strongly tilted towards quist and they wont have much ground to make up because it was supposed to be close anyway

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Break out that banjo!

edit: holy poo poo, he can even play a flute. What can't Quist do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzPaI5bTP48

Rigel fucked around with this message at 07:20 on May 25, 2017

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016


Honestly, I'm not sure. I could see it going either way at the high court.

Usually the feds can only charge you with a crime for this sort of thing if you attack a federal agent, like the FBI or a marshal. If you attack a local sworn officer, the feds have no jurisdiction its a state or local crime. What congress is trying to do is argue that since they give grant money to that police department, even though they are not federal agents they have an interest in that cop's safety so if you attack them its now a federal crime, too. I don't know if that holds up or not.

Its a poo poo law either way, obviously. Its a necessary step to creating a national fascist state where the cops no longer have to worry too much about what happens if they beat the hell out of a random citizen, as long as they were arguably doing something illegal, its all good get out that club and swing away..

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Breaking: 4th circuit upholds the injunction against the muslim ban

edit: basically agreed with the lower court judge who said that yeah, the travel ban is not discriminatory against muslims on its face, but all you have to do is open your eyes and ears, listen to what Trump said in the campaign, and its obvious that its a muslim ban.

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Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/867800686234394626

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