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F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



This is good news:

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/334804-fcc-wont-take-action-against-colbert-over-trump-joke

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F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Which branch of Christianity does Trump pretend to subscribe to again?

"Prosperity gospel", which really just fits so well.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Zikan posted:

lmao

https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/867483717887025156

they gotta vote again

after the recess

while the horrible numbers get blasted everywhere

I'm confused. Some people are saying Trumpcare provides $119 billion in savings, and others are saying that it violates reconciliation rules.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



I don't have a link, but I'm watching NBC Nightly News, and they're covering the Seth Rich story....in the sense that they're talking about Fox having to retract the story and Hannity losing voters.

It must be frustrating for alt-righters that their precious conspiracy is making the hated mainstream media, but with a big "this is bullshit and Fox is having to walk it back" caveat.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Chilichimp posted:

Sean Hannity has seen some poo poo, ya'll.



Of course. He looked in the mirror.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



enraged_camel posted:

Guys, I'm afraid Chimp has finally figured out a way to keep the media permanently distracted. "Covfeve" was just a test run, and judging by the way it dominated the headlines for a whole day, it was a massive success. Now all Chimp has to do is utter some random nonsense made-up word on his Shitter every night, and he's set for the rest of his term!

I don't know. I'm still not convinced that Trump's that smart. He strikes me more as a moron (possibly with early onset Alzheimer's) who, by the sheer force of his outsized personality, has managed to fail upwards. But all the "covfefe" in the world can't distract from the fact that the GOP is pushing through a bill that polls say is supported by 8% of the population*.

* Source: http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/31/politics/healthcare-ahca-poll/index.html

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



I don't know who Jeff Lord is (beyond a Trump sycophant), but he's a moron. He was on Anderson Cooper a few minutes ago, trying to argue with a straight face that Kushner is "just like Robert F. Kennedy" because presidents usually use family members to establish other diplomatic channels. He also essentially argued "B-b-but Obama used a senate aid in his administration!".

David Priess was Anderson's other guest, and he shut that down pretty quickly.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017




In other words, this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9ihKq34Ozc&t=135s

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Mr Interweb posted:

Goddamn it, now MSNBC is letting hacks like Nicole Wallace host their programs as well.

Liberal media indeed.

Is she a hack? Serious question, since she's always seemed relatively sane to me. The snippets of interviews I've heard from her seem to indicate that she's not a Trumper.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Mr Interweb posted:

She's a former Bush admin flack like David Frum. And sure, like him, she's what passes for a "reasonable Republican" nowadays, but that doesn't mean she should be rewarded by giving her hosting privileges.

True, but she honestly seems a lot saner to me than Jeff Lord. His tongue is firmly planted up Trump's rear end, but Wallace doesn't seem to be a Trump fan. I dunno.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



I hate to add to a derail, but my favorite sub shops are Which Wich or Firehouse Subs. Once you go to either of those, it's hard to go back to Subway.

For something more on topic: Sasse saying that the AHCA won't be coming before the midterms is really encouraging news. I've been so worried that those assholes in the senate were quietly going to ram through a bill while we were distracted by 'covfefe' or some dumb poo poo like that.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Speaking of that racist comic, I caught a little bit of Matt Taibbi being interviewed by C-Span Book TV this afternoon. They had this guy call in that started right off with whining about how "the left" doesn't let him get a word in edgewise, and how he hoped conservatives would get a chance to speak their piece to Taibbi.

The kicker was that he started on this mini-tirade about how black and Asian populations are so dangerous and commit so many more of the crimes than whites. He wanted Taibbi to respond to some BS about how the standard of life was better in more homogenous places in Europe, or something like that.

Taibbi, to his credit, mostly just shook his head and said that he felt sorry for the guy. I was just surprised (though I know I shouldn't be) that such blatant racism was being spouted on C-Span (albeit from someone calling in).

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

What is going on with his neck/chin



http://imgur.com/a/7vTNw

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



The Glumslinger posted:

https://twitter.com/philipaklein/status/872175843749113856

Can anyone explain what this means? There is a tiny blurb in the article about it, but I don't know enough to understand it

I think it's the fact that it's essentially an individual mandate, which they made a campaign out of being Socialism and the worst thing ever devised. In other words, it makes them look like the hypocrites they are to have it in their replacement bill.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017




Encouraging to hear that the public isn't being swayed by the "fake news" defense.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



My Shitter Account posted:

It's a little depressing that a full third believe that the news media are making up stories to make the president look bad.

That's true. But it does seem to be roughly consistent with the number of diehard Trump supporters who probably would believe everything that came out of the "god emperor's" mouth.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



evilweasel posted:

I don't see anything serious that wasn't expected in here. The key things seem to be (a) Comey confirming that he offered Chimp assurances that he was not "personally under investigation" three times, though what that means is an open question; (b)

I'm guessing that this part might be a key in understanding this:

Comey posted:

He said he was considering
ordering me to investigate the alleged incident to prove it didn’t happen. I replied
that he should give that careful thought because it might create a narrative that we
were investigating him personally, which we weren’t, and because it was very
difficult to prove a negative.

Trump's probably like that old Far Side commercial with the dog. All he heard from that exchange is that "it'd look like we were investigating you personally" and thus concluded "Hey...I'm scot free! They're not investigating me!" As we well know, there's absolutely no nuance in Trump's thinking at all. He hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



WeAreTheRomans posted:

It's probably the only thing he could understand.

I mean, I kinda think the pisstape is real, I just don't think Jim Comey is gonna drop that casually into a prepared statement

It probably is. Chimp's denial - "I knew I was being filmed in Russia all along" - sounds to me like someone who is pranked and then tries to play it off: "Oh, I knew that was there. I just wanted to make you laugh by looking like I fell for it".

F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jun 7, 2017

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017




I'm for this out of fairness, but I also don't want it to be a distraction from Russiagate, which seems like a much bigger deal.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



An alternate explanation is that whether or not the tapes exist, Trump hopes that by saying "I'll show you later", everyone will forget about them and he'll be off the hook.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



TheScott2K posted:

As someone who got a sticker voting for Perriello today with his wife, please shut the gently caress up about my home state's politics you garbage idiot. The Democratic primary had two good choices, and one of them won. The nomination is the other's for the taking four years from now, at which point you'll probably say "party bosses win" again like the Milli Vanilli backing track that you are.

Meanwhile Ed Gillespie's lead sure seems to be shrinking as the idiot counties turn in their results.

I'm also a Virginian who pulled the lever, so to speak, for Perriello. It's disappointing to see Stewart do so well. I really thought that Gillespie would win more handily than this.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



TheScott2K posted:

:siren: Corey Stewart within 1000. MORE CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS SAYETH THE GENTLEMAN FROM MINNESOTA!



Ugh...and I live in one of the counties that went for Stewart too.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



TheScott2K posted:

Name your shame county

edit:

Greene, which means that it could have a lot to do with the controversy over the Lee statue in Charlottesville.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jun 14, 2017

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Harrow posted:

Jesus god, he's like a perfect, glowing avatar of everything the alt-right thinks "libs" are.

Which is why I'm mildly suspicious. I'm not trying to be a tinfoil hat. It just seems a bit too "on the nose".

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



TGLT posted:

gently caress off with that. If this is in fact the shooter then the dude was a berniebro. The amount of planning and effort it would take to cultivate some perfect liberal facebook to use in a false flag attack to bring about the orange reich is literally unbelievable. At most, this turns out to be a case of mistaken identity.

Like I said: I'm only mildly suspicious. More likely than not, the guy is, as Barbarian Elephant said, just someone who comes off like a caricature.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017




The hopeful side of me wants to believe that Gianforte learned his lesson and is trying to be a better person.

The dominant cynical side, which has been watching the GOP since just after 9/11, is more convinced that he's trying to "position" himself to look like he's "rising above it all".

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Phoix posted:

Timothy Murphy really doesn't want people to know he voted to repeal the ACA. It has been edited out 3 times in the past 20 minutes.

https://twitter.com/congressedits/status/876824647156850688

If the bill is so unpopular that you're trying to hide the fact that you voted aye, why vote for it in the first place?

(I know the answer is "tick the 'repealed Obamacare' box, but I don't understand why they're so intent on dying on this particular hill)

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Pledge to Return to Era of Bipartisan Cooperation and Agreement
"I, the undersigned, hereby agree to vote with the Republicans 100% of the time, because my party is a bunch of poopyhead losers who love ISIS"

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



business hammocks posted:

How hard would it be to hack Chimp's twitter? I imagine he's saving the "I was hacked" defense for when he says something really bad.

I have a feeling that Trump's Twitter password would be kind of like President Skroob's luggage combination - something really easy to figure out like 'password123'.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Don't let the anger and disappointment get to you; use it to hold these people's feet to the fire! They want you to give up and assume nothing matters, because cynicism and apathy is exactly what helps them win.

But Trump's numbers are in the mid to high 30 and don't show any evidence of rising (even something like the baseball shooting didn't help him); Mueller's investigation is happening apace; the American people loathe the AHCA and, if reports can be believed, the coalition to vote for that piece of poo poo bill is fractious.

Stop giving up so easily. We're still more that a year out from the midterms. That's plenty of time for more of Trump's incriminating tweets evidence of collusion to come out, and for his incompetence to bite him in the rear end. We're rapidly approaching a debt ceiling crisis that there's no evidence that the congress will even be able to address meaningfully. This is far from over, and I'm just saving up that anger so that I can express myself by my ballot in November of 2018.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Glazier posted:

And when you lose in 2018? Then what? What about 2020 when Chimp will be reelected in a landslide, what then?

Who says the Dems are going to lose in 2018? That's more than a year away, and like every party that has near-total control of the government, the GOP is going to overreach and piss people off. If the AHCA won't do it, the collusion eventually will. I'm reasonably sure that there are HUGE skeletons in Chimp's closet that Mueller will be going over with a fine-tooth comb.

Even if nothing much comes of that by 2020, Chimp will be - what - 74? There's already been a lot of chatter in this thread about him showing signs of dementia. But even beyond that, he's a massively unpopular president who probably isn't going to magically become more popular in the next three years. Sure...he has his base, but he's even beginning to piss some of them off, and they were only a fraction of the country anyway. The courts keep rebuking him and the people are increasingly unhappy with the BS he's trying to do.

I'm not saying that things aren't bad or that the GOP's capacity for evil should be underestimated, but they're in the same place of the 2009/2010 Dems, and they keep shooting themselves in the foot with the AHCA, quadrupling down on their unquestioned loyalty to a president willing to incriminate himself, etc. I'm not wearing rose-colored glasses, but all things must pass eventually. The GOP's current "governance" is not sustainable beyond '18 or '20.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Harrow posted:

I can't shake the feeling that everyone predicting the House will flip in 2018 has their head in the sand.

It's hard to say this far removed from the midterms. The best thing you can do is to never give up. It sounds cliche, but the more you apply pressure and work to change your world, the more we might see mattering start to happen. We don't accomplish anything useful with doom-and-gloom in this thread (not that I blame people for being disappointed, but we have to play the long game and stop putting all our eggs in one GA-6 basket).

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



The GA-6 election is over and done with. The results suck, but can we talk about something else?

Like this, for instance: http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/21/politics/russia-hacking-hearing-states-targeted/index.html

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Republicans can shout "B-b-b-ut Pelosi" as much as they like, but if they continue on their present course, they're not going to be able to pin their lovely health care bill, absence of tax reform, and probable failure on a clean debt ceiling increase on Pelosi and the Dems. They own everything that's been happening since January, and most voters feel the same way. This is why I'm more hopeful than a lot of people who are declaring doom and gloom for the Democrats.

I don't know whether Pelosi is effective or not, but she's not the problem. If Democrats want to take the government back from the thugs currently running it, they have to fight for it and never give up. The GOP never let up on Obama, and they had a lot of success in '10 (the party in charge always loses seats anyway) and '14.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017




I'm wondering how they expect to enforce that. What's to stop a reporter from hiding a microcassette recorder in their pocket and sneaking it into the briefing? And what would they do if they did find recoding equipment; send someone to bed without supper?

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Mustached Demon posted:

Check them for security reasons and then ban them?

Yeah, I figured that. I guess what I'm asking is: why should the press feel any obligation to accede to these dumb, arbitrary demands? I know that an organized rebellion will increase the whining about "the media" and give them more ammunition for canceling press briefings altogether, but when has the White House ever showed any respect for decorum? It just seems like respect only ever goes one way for this administration: the press bowing its knee and giving in to silly demands for the chance to ask Sarah Huckabee Sanders questions she won't answer.

I mean...you're the press secretary for the POTUS. If you can't handle someone putting you on tape, why the hell do you even have your job?

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



awesmoe posted:

What do you suggest they do? (given that the wh controls the briefing room, and press credentials etc)
the only thing giving reporters access to the Minister of Truth or white house staff, afaik, is historical norm

I dunno. I just wish they weren't quite so deferential to these dumb rules. I'm sick and tired of the good guys bowing and scraping to the bad guys, only to have to eat poo poo in return.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Can we please shut the gently caress up about Pelosi? drat. I'm still relatively new here and I don't want to piss people off, but I'm sick of this derail.

A piece of poo poo health care bill that could affect millions of Americans just dropped. Can we focus on that or whatever else is happening today?

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Crows Turn Off posted:

Are they trying to make healthcare worse than it was before the ACA?

Absolutely. They don't give a poo poo about you or me. Their concern is ticking off that 'repealed Obamacare' box and spiting Obama.

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F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



ozmunkeh posted:

This is the tell. Everything else is for show. It'll pass and it'll be poo poo but in the near future Chimp will do a poo poo and we'll hear all about how maybe this means he might not actually sign it. Hope is a disease etc..

And the real damage will come in 2021, just in time for a Democratic president (and, optimistically, congress) to suffer the consequences while Republicans rage about poor people not having health care.

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