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mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Trump doesn't understand the philosophical differences between what he said during the campaign and the people he hired to write his budgets and it is going to hurt him A LOT politically.

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Jul 1, 2004

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Sloober posted:

Naw, nobody is holding President Trump to the words of Candidate Trump. They've dismissed a billion things as campaign trail issues


I know but Trump doesn't understand how damaging what's in his budget is going to be to him politically and none of it is because of his ideology.

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Jul 1, 2004

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Sloober posted:

If it weren't for how cripplingly bad for this country Trump is i'd give him the benefit of doubt for possibly, and finally, destroying the republican party through sheer incompetence.

For fuckin' real how do you nominate and get in a bernie madoff economist, like literally profited from Madoff. Madoff worked because nobody scrutinized it as it happened, this poo poo is pulled apart within an hour.

We're a long way from the republican party being destroyed.

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Jul 1, 2004

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Chilichimp posted:

Is Chris Hayes good? He seems insufferable. To a lesser degree than O'Donnell, but STILL

Yes. Him and his show are good.

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Jul 1, 2004

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Pander posted:

Uh, Rachel is significantly better, it's just Hayes is significantly better than everyone else but her.

Untrue. Hayes is much better than Maddow. Maddow is barely a progressive and said she considered disgusting pig rapist Roger Ailes, "a friend." She's a careerist above all. Hayes has actually walked the walk.

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Jul 1, 2004

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Arturo Ui posted:

This is right. Hayes is pretty clearly a leftist but plays a liberal on TV as you can't be a real leftist and have a prime time news show. Rachel has only been reporting on Russia for months and frequently skirts conspiracy theory territory

Hayes' weekend morning show was BY FAR the best political thing on TV for as long as it was on.

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Jul 1, 2004

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ReidRansom posted:

If you're getting up on Saturday morning and immediately tune in to news instead of boning your lady/man, eating breakfast and then getting morning drunk, washing a car or mowing the lawn or something, you're in too deep. Put down the remote for a while and go enjoy the world while it remains.

DVR is a thing...

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Jul 1, 2004

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JeffersonClay posted:

LOl I'm mad that Rachel Maddow was right before everyone agreed she was right.

Even if she was right, she has been spending way too much time on it. Her show has become ponderous.

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Jul 1, 2004

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B B posted:

He personally prevented ACA from having a public option, for one.

No. it's worse than that. The Public option was DOA. What he did was kill the Medicare buyin at age 55 which is basically the number 1 reason that the ACA insurance markets are having problems now. It had 60 votes of support and Leiberman CHANGED HIS MIND when he saw progressives supporting it. People died because of that vote and it was purely because of spite. Also, he was one of the main boosters of the Iraq war until pretty much the end of the Bush presidency at which he went to the Republican Convention and endorsed McCain and Sarah loving Palin over Obama. He's vile scum.

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Jul 1, 2004

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FizFashizzle posted:

Also Israel really isn't an issue anymore since Obama did a very good job of extricating the US from the I/P conflict in a lot of ways, but back in the early 2000s israel/palestine was a MAJOR wedge issue and lieberman was always there handwaving atrocities committed against Palestinians.

Well now all democrats do that so I didn't mention it heh.

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Jul 1, 2004

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Krispy Kareem posted:

Figures, Trump managed to marry the one woman not impressed with him being President.

"me First Lady? The same lady your friends used to call ape last year? In soviet Slovenia I was supermodel, no ape!"

I mean she was impressed with him at one point in her life which doesn't reflect well on her since he's never been anything other than oafish buffoon.

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Bottom Liner posted:

Trump's budget director being unable to count is the icing on the cake of this stupid administration. Good thing these dumb fuckers are so stupid or else we'd be in a lot deeper poo poo. They're literally too dumb to enact their evil plans.

I kinda like Mulveney. He just tells you what every other republican is too chickenshit to tell you. He literally said that his baseline for this budget is based on having compassion for the people who pay taxes (rich people) and not having compassion for people who use the services (poors and middle class.). That is what they all think... At least he isn't hiding it.

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Jul 1, 2004

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evilweasel posted:

I figure he was going to serve the divorce papers on her because I assume most prenups give the woman less if she's the one filing for divorce, but yeah it seems pretty clear that's what happened.

Unless there is an NDA in the prenup.

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Jul 1, 2004

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Al Borland Corp. posted:

Why the gently caress do these idiot racists always continue to stand there and talk into the camera? Just loving leave and get in with whatever your racist rear end was gonna do!

Because they don't have to be "politically correct" anymore since Trump is President. White Power.

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axeil posted:

It has a $2 trillion math mistake.


On purpose.


So yes, it is a poo poo bucket.

It's really 7 trillion. Since they aren't counting the 5 trillion of tax cuts they want either that would increase the deficit.

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Jul 1, 2004

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Rigel posted:

This may be correct, but the 21% who are STILL with him now are either not paying any attention at all, or they will be bitter enders.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/867419203065835520

That's before there is actual human running against him that the conservative infotainment complex has demonized though.

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I love these MT republican voting rubes who are gonna vote for the Goldman Sachs guy who wants to end social security tomorrow.

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Jul 1, 2004

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theflyingorc posted:

That didn't really help his favorables very much, just his vote take.

Trump still had the lowest favorables of any candidate, ever.


(second was Clinton)

Well yeah but as you're proving here, he doesn't need high favorables to win.

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37% is a new low!

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theflyingorc posted:

Yup! The only lower number I've seen was gallup polling had him at 35 for a day and 36 for two days, but this is the new low for Q poll.

It's gonna be funny when the GOP holds the House with him at like 26% approval.

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Comey will be remembered as one of the greatest stooges in US history.

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axeil posted:

And conversely the guy who got Trump imprisoned. "In short, Jim Comey is a man of contrasts." will be a phrase seen in every 7th grader's US history essay circa 2050.

One thing we know for 100% certainty is that Trump isn't going to prison.

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What a lying gently caress. He said at the town hall he divested of all his Health Care stocks....

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LOL Trump didn't let Sean Spicer who has destroyed his reputation and credibility for him, meet the Pope out of spite. As bad a person as we think Trump is, he's probably worse.

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Not enough was made about "Patient Protection" part of the ACA

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evilmiera posted:

There are going to be giant riots aren't there?

Most GOP voters will just believe everything Dear Leader tells them.

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That any House Republican can win reelection after voting for this piece of poo poo is a pretty large indictment of democracy.

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Trabisnikof posted:

Lol if you think this is the CBO scoring Ryan or McConnell want.

I doubt they care. They can pass it in reconciliation which is all that matters. They will just lie about the rest of the bill and their rubes will believe them.

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B B posted:

If you think the 20% premium increase is crazy:

https://twitter.com/sarahkliff/status/867482139566145536

Gonna be some good ads on this one.

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Chilichimp posted:

So we're saving 119 billion dollars over 10 years to kick 23 million people off of health insurance.

Just to spell that out, that's 517 dollars per person, per year for health insurance coverage, if we didn't pass this bill.

517 dollars per person to insure 23 million people? How is that not regarded as a loving STEAL?

Where is your compassion for guys who make $950K a year?

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It's a 100 billion dollar transfer of wealth from health care spending to the rich's pockets. Period.

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https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/867483554942402560

LOL USA Today

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You know who has it WAY too good in this country? Elderly poor people. gently caress THEM. AMIRITE!?!?!

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Mister Adequate posted:

Yep, he broadly supports Obamacare, wants to move to single-payer, and has been against the AHCA. And yep, it is indeed.

So this is about as good a bit of news he could have got outside of Gianforte appearing in the piss tape.

Gianforte also donated money to white nationalist groups.

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Confounding Factor posted:

As awful as this is, I'm hoping Democrats don't fumble this golden opportunity. The hard part is messaging it to people but they have much of the work cut out for them.

They are STEALING 100B of your health care and giving it to the rich in the form of tax cuts. If you can't message that you don't belong in politics.

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fsif posted:

I don't know enough about his district, but this HAS to spell the end for Paul Ryan in 2018, right? Or is his a constituency particularly susceptible to messages like “I will literally murder you”?

They are susceptible to "Liberals don't like this bill so it must be great."

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It's too bad it's only 1 day before the election and he can't run an ad about the time he put the globalist reporter in his rightful place.

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CrazySalamander posted:

Can someone explain to me how they can get away with that statement when there's audio please?

Get away with it? I'm sure it's a positive with most of his voters.

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boner confessor posted:

i know it's weirdly cathartic and nihilistic to pretend half the country are raving lunatics but it turns out assaulting people for no good reason is not popular among most americans. go outside once in a while

I thought that too. It's wrong. Half the country are complete poo poo as people.

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pumpinglemma posted:

I remember when I thought that a sizeable minority of Republicans were sane enough to be turned away by criminal, morally repellent behaviour captured on tape. It was back before they elected an admitted serial sexual assaulter to the White House.

This is the saddest thing about Nov 8. We (at least I) didn't realize that there were so many monstrous scum sharing the country with me.

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