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tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.
Just had a Trump supporter tell me that he didn't care if he were dirty or not because "you've got to get dirty to change things."

It's a hell of a time to be alive.

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tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

Chilichimp posted:

gently caress npr, dipshits are trying to save their jobs by fluffing trump

Yes, truly, NPR is part of the pro-Trump intelligencia.

This is the most stupid thing I've see posted in the past thirty pages. That's impressive.

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.
Heh, yeah, let's keep talking about scary black rifles when 94-98% (I've seen different numbers 2010-2015) of gun violence is committed using handguns.

I mean, it's loving poo poo that [INSERT MASS SHOOTING OF THE WEEK HERE] happened, but even adding up fifty years worth of them, we're under 1,000 killed. (source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/mass-shootings-in-america/ )

Meanwhile in 2017 we're at 11,763 dead nationwide ( as of Oct. 04: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org )and assuming that the previous years' trends holds, about 11,000 or so of those are from handguns. But yes, lets ban suppressors so we can claim the moral high ground and say we did something, pat ourselves on the back and go home!

I mean Jesus gently caress, if you want gun control, go after the poo poo that actually matters. Oh, wait, a significant portion of gun violence affects people of color you say? Never mind, who gives a poo poo! Ban the scary guns that kill the white people, my mistake!

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

Stereotype posted:

Yeah ban all guns. Duh.

Or let the free market decide and require liability insurance.

Eh, good luck with that in the US.

My point was more that we should probably focus on a fight that will make an actual difference rather than the "feel good but do relatively little" stuff being posted here and elsewhere on the internet every time some terrorist gently caress shoots a group of people.

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

Harton posted:

I would totally support a buyback from the government and strict gun control laws put in place. I would totally turn in my shotgun for some cash and not give a gently caress because I believe it would be for the greater good. I just know I'm in the minority in this country with those beliefs. Sure more people get killed with handguns overall but your not gonna kill 60 people and wound 100's more with a goddamn pistol in 11 minutes. It's at least a beginning to get rid of the literal battlefield weapons dumb loving assholes have in their closets.

Again, yes, rifles are scary. This year, assuming prior trends apply to this year like they have others, handguns have been used to kill ~11,000. Rifles have been used for around 750 deaths.

One of these things is far more damaging than the other. I know handguns don't get the sweet tragedy porn that rifles do, but maybe addressing those boring statistics and people of color getting hosed by handguns at a rate nearly 15:1 (conservative number there by the way) would have a bigger and more positive impact?

sean10mm posted:

Suppressors are an edge case that doesn't really matter. They're banned in some places with low gun murder rates and fairly unrestricted in other places with low gun murder rates.

Being able to buy something 99% equivalent to a military assault rifle just as easily as a bolt action deer rifle, that you can get around the last 1% (going from semi auto to full auto) by using either a cheap bump stock or simple tools, is a big problem.

The likewise ridiculous ease with which you can buy all the handguns your heart desires is a big problem.

The huge number of guns already in circulation with no real traceability at all is a big problem.

The fact that a dude can buy like 50 guns and there is no mechanism in place to raise a red flag to the ATF that this guy might be a psycho nutbar is a big problem.

Etc., etc.

Actually the big problem is handguns at between 15-20 times the murder rate of rifles.

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

Dietrich posted:

Even in the wildest gun control fantasies, people still get to own guns that are appropriate to hunt with and protect their homes (shotguns, bolt action rifles and carbines, small capacity semi-automatic pistols and revolvers), and weapons that aren't appropriate for hunting and protection...

Hey, I just wanted to point out that something like 98% of gun violence happens with handguns.

Mass shootings get coverage, but more people died from handguns in a couple months than have died in fifty years of mass shootings put together.

The things most appropriate for handguns are responsible for the vast majority of deaths. No videos to watch of people getting shot though and it's disproportionally black people who get shot so who cares, right?

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

Squalid posted:

Yeah, and you could probably reduce this a lot without banning guns at all. Just make purchases and transfers a bit better regulated.

Yup. But big black rifles are scary and we have to DO SOMETHING (like wasting political capital on banning bump stocks instead of pushing for something that will actually make sense and make an impact).

But hey, why make a difference when we can high five ourselves for banning something that will have a workaround in five minutes?

Sorry. I get salty that all people give a poo poo about is the poo poo that comparatively doesn't loving matter compared to the literal 50 people who die from handguns for every one that dies from a rifle.

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

Radish posted:

And also nominated an ex-Republican (only to lose) like twice.

I know this was yesterday -and thus ancient by this thread’s speed- but it really can’t be understated just how incompetent and bad the Florida Democratic Party is. They ran Charlie loving Christ (the above mentioned former Republican) twice. Rick loving Scott beat him. The lizard man himself.

I’ve taken shits more charming than both of then, that the FL Democratic Party can’t find anyone better is just unbelievable.

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

empty whippet box posted:

Isn't Florida the Florida of the south?

Florida isn’t the South.

The further north you go in Florida, the further ‘South’ you get. All the Florida man stories come from Northern Florida (usually).

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tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

empty whippet box posted:

How the gently caress is florida not the south.

It’s almost like millions of people from elsewhere in the United States moving to Florida (Americans and Canadians from the North, from Cuba and Puerto Rico) might have an effect on Southern culture, so much so that the central and southern portions of the state could be considered an entirely different state.

North Florida is the South. South Florida is it’s own extremely strange thing. Not the South.

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