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Welp, no surprise to you all I'm sure, but I discovered that any side with 3 or more squad leaders with their poo poo together will usually steamroll the map. Having those spawn points consistently right near objectives helps soooo much. Cu Chi is a bit difficult for VC SLs tho. Not many places to put down forward tunnels.
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WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:Welp, no surprise to you all I'm sure, but I discovered that any side with 3 or more squad leaders with their poo poo together will usually steamroll the map. Having those spawn points consistently right near objectives helps soooo much. was on a hue match tonight where my squad kept yelling at their marine SL for hanging back and letting people spawn, instead of running in and dying over and over
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ded posted:An RPG better be able to murder the gently caress out of them. apparently they're about as tough as a huey, hitting them with the noob toob will even blow them up
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Jul 14, 2017 10:25
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I'll usually try to get in close as SL but not too close.
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Jul 14, 2017 10:29
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I leave squads if they don't lay down the tunnel. Every time I play, it seems that I have to remind the squad leader that they need to lay down a tunnel. I hate running across half the map to get to the next objective.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:12
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Hamlet442 posted:I leave squads if they don't lay down the tunnel. Every time I play, it seems that I have to remind the squad leader that they need to lay down a tunnel. I hate running across half the map to get to the next objective. It happens too often now that VC SL ignore tunnels. It is so frustrating because if enough of the VC squads refuse to build tunnels, the match gets incredibly lopsided real fast, the americans can run rampant and it will be impossible for the VC side to turn it around. They need to include some sort of system for forcing tunnel placement in the next patch. After the initial spawn, squadmembers can right click the squadleader and choose a "request tunnel option". This would give a prompt to the SL, and a timer would start ticking. If no tunnel was forthcoming within 3 minutes, then the SL should be demoted and the requesting player become SL. GyverMac fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jul 14, 2017 |
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A horrible commander can lose a game, but I think games usually turn on SL's for both sides. I am often overly aggressive on spawn points when SL. I really like to get a US spawn on the point and have been finding places to do that on all the maps. I think for US it's good to play a class that has smoke as SL. I will often try tunnels in forward flank positions on the point on non heli maps. On heli maps I start with conservative tunnels, tunnels that cover LZ's or draw the attack choppers into anti air. I will often move the tunnel progressively. On maps with heli's the dynamics change a lot because you have the heli's to spawn on and the anti tunnel war is much more aggressive. On those maps good pilots or good a team anti air with LMG, DShK and RPG's can turn the game. One thing I notice is that there are a lot of ammo dumps from which you can stage an assault or defense. This is useful for your rpg's, lmg's, grenadiers and maybe most for the smoke. Staging from an ammo point gives you at least 4 smokes. e.g. From the a site ammo on Hue (is that the city map?) as the US you can toss two smokes into the river, resupply and have two smokes to throw from the cover of your first two. The whole anti air resupply thing also gives more tactical value to holding some points than others. I like playing SL, but the other side of it is terrible, e.g. if you team has no anti-air and it's impossible to keep a tunnel up. That kind of thing. Painful. I also think people don't seem to understand that by fighting with your squad you reduce all sorts of nasty things like suppression effects. I notice on most servers people don't really use the suppression mechanics or cover penetration. For instance, the map with the police building for A and the road before D and E? (Bad with the map names...) if you set up an LMG behind the police building prone and facing at an angle out toward C... you are near ammo and you can suppress the entire approach to C with out taking return fire. People seem reluctant to just light up straw huts, bushes... to shoot cover where you know they are likely to be. I get it that it reveals your position and all. Doesn't work well if alone, but with a squad it's great.
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Sogol posted:I notice on most servers people don't really use the suppression mechanics or cover penetration. For instance, the map with the police building for A and the road before D and E? (Bad with the map names...) if you set up an LMG behind the police building prone and facing at an angle out toward C... you are near ammo and you can suppress the entire approach to C with out taking return fire. People seem reluctant to just light up straw huts, bushes... to shoot cover where you know they are likely to be. I get it that it reveals your position and all. Doesn't work well if alone, but with a squad it's great. I get so much kills from spraying them hooches. Even the walls and floors of the cap-point buildings on Hue can be penetrated. On that note, the flamethrowers work pretty much the same way they did in RS1, so you can "richochet" flames around corners and off trees etc to reach enemies in cover. Also; Do Squadleaders still count as two people when capturing a point like they did in earlier RO games?
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GyverMac posted:I know for a fact that if the majority of the VC squad leaders do not put down tunnels, you are guaranteed to loose. They need to include some sort of system for forcing tunnel placement in the next patch. After the initial spawn, squadmembers can right click the squadleader and choose a "request tunnel option". This would give a prompt to the SL, and a timer would start ticking. If no tunnel was forthcoming within 3 minutes, then the SL should be demoted and the requesting player become SL. Cool idea. It probably needs to be longer sadly. There is a cooldown after your tunnel is sploded. You might also have to respawn and run. Finally, if you are promoted while alive you have no pick axe and cannot place a tunnel. Sometimes on a map with no anti air I am on my fourth tunnel or something and my squad thinks I have not been placing tunnels. Last night I fell through the map next to our Squad tunnel. I was under it and could see it above me, but couldn't move. Trapped in the tunnel!! Buried alive! get me out get me out. Had to suicide.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:40
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speaking of helo's, some pilots are getting insanely skilled at flying and dropping off in the craziest spots -- right in the middle of the action. It's pretty cool to see.
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Hamlet442 posted:I leave squads if they don't lay down the tunnel. Every time I play, it seems that I have to remind the squad leader that they need to lay down a tunnel. I hate running across half the map to get to the next objective. I would honestly rather be in my own squad and place a good tunnel for myself than a full squad with no/poo poo tunnel
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Jul 14, 2017 17:20
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If SL was something you picked rather than something you randomly got the game would be much better. As it is now mindless pubbies with no awareness never notice they are the SL.
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Jul 14, 2017 17:28
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Sogol posted:Cool idea. It probably needs to be longer sadly. There is a cooldown after your tunnel is sploded. You might also have to respawn and run. Finally, if you are promoted while alive you have no pick axe and cannot place a tunnel. Sometimes on a map with no anti air I am on my fourth tunnel or something and my squad thinks I have not been placing tunnels. Hm, yeah true a longer timer would probably be better. And the system should be able to give the person being promoted a pick axe upon promotion. causticBeet posted:I would honestly rather be in my own squad and place a good tunnel for myself than a full squad with no/poo poo tunnel Fat chance if you are on a 64 player server and all the squad spots are taken...
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GyverMac posted:I get so much kills from spraying them hooches. Even the walls and floors of the cap-point buildings on Hue can be penetrated. from what I"m understanding they only push the cap at 2x, they don't actually count as 2 people (ie if it's just you and another dude, the cap won't move) also upper limit on the cap of 6 people is stupid, especially in supremacy where you'll have 20 people loitering around the initial caps for a minute when they could be running around getting good positions instead  GyverMac posted:Fat chance if you are on a 64 player server and all the squad spots are taken... it seems unlikely that you're going to have 10 squads of 3 people each, all of whom are either refusing to dig or locking the squad. If they're that lazy they'll blob up in an existing squad rather than making their own. 10 squads of people having their tunnels regularly blown up by tryhard cobra pilots on the other hand...
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Hey guys there is a trap here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUjFqoIYyTQ
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alg posted:If SL was something you picked rather than something you randomly got the game would be much better. As it is now mindless pubbies with no awareness never notice they are the SL.
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Also the best way to cap it seems is to NOT rush the entire team into the point, but for the majority to attack along the flanks, denying the enemy team the ability to move into the cap.
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It's astounding the amount of places you can cap a point while still being in cover that are just inside the cap zone. Even more astounding are the amount of people who don't realize this and will charge well past where they need to and get in a dangerous spot and die instead of advancing the cap. Been this way since the first Red Orchestra....
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:It's astounding the amount of places you can cap a point while still being in cover that are just inside the cap zone. Even more astounding are the amount of people who don't realize this and will charge well past where they need to and get in a dangerous spot and die instead of advancing the cap. I'd prefer if the game was designed so people actually fought over/in the cap rather than the game turning into a black hole of everyone from both teams trying to hide in point throwing nades and not actually fighting, but alas...
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:It's astounding the amount of places you can cap a point while still being in cover that are just inside the cap zone. Even more astounding are the amount of people who don't realize this and will charge well past where they need to and get in a dangerous spot and die instead of advancing the cap. Almost like its a dumb map design philosophy...
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:It's astounding the amount of places you can cap a point while still being in cover that are just inside the cap zone. Even more astounding are the amount of people who don't realize this and will charge well past where they need to and get in a dangerous spot and die instead of advancing the cap. You can only cap a point if you have superior numbers than the opposing team, so just going up to the edge of the zone won't make a difference unless you kill the people inside.
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Yes, but I've had countless times where we outnumbered them at the edge.
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The people defending inside the cap will get swarmed and die eventually. It's the defenders' reinforcements that are the main problem for the attacker. If you can get on the flanks and shoot the defenders as they run up, then it makes the job easier ... and really frustrating for them. When I'm the U.S. on Cu Chi (I think), there's a temple in the middle of rice paddies on the right after the first town. As squad leader I will run to the *right flank* of the temple and have my guys spawn there. Few VC go there as well. Same reason why you want to generally put artillery and the like behind the cap. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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Jul 20, 2017 15:51
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Same reason why you want to generally put artillery and the like behind the cap. This is one of the most important uses of artillery. Unless there is just a huge loving throng of defenders all concentrated on the point you almost always want to use artillery to cut off reinforcements and have your team wipe out the point and get a foothold for capture. A commander dropping support on the point itself is a litmus test that indicates that your commander is probably a moron.
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You are all idiots because the obvious best use of artillery is directly on the point we're capping and, in fact, a little on our side.
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:You are all idiots because the obvious best use of artillery is directly on the point we're capping and, in fact, a little on our side. I'm the commander yelling "Danger close!!!" after the first shells hit
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Look, I'm not saying I haven't napalmed some of my own people in order to kill more of the bad guys. I did cap the point and won the match because of it. That takes timing and discipline, IMO. War is hell and they don't even let them write gently caress on their airplanes!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9uXLzZyucI
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They need to lower the accuracy on support strikes. Most of the time you can be about 50-55m away and be fine. It should be much further.
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As for artillery, I wish a modern FPS had Red Faction dynamic destruction.
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ded posted:They need to lower the accuracy on support strikes. Most of the time you can be about 50-55m away and be fine. It should be much further. Their range is about 75 meters, and generally you want to drop them about twice that far away from friendly players because there's always people dumb enough to run directly into it.
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Is there a setting in some file somewhere to adjust the opacity of the map overlay? It would be nice for it to be semi-transparent so I at least have a chance of blasting a fool in the face while I'm looking at it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ4o2WrhiIc
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SU-HueCity, TE-SongBe & TE-AnLaoValley have been released in the new ~1gb update. Looks like Hue might be set in the evening as it is a bit darker and SongBe in the early morning. 1.02 is being worked on and includes: Weapon Changes
Quality of Life
9 pages of patchnotes for 1.02 apprently, patch should be out in a few weeks.
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drunkill posted:
also I was wondering when they were going to underload the ppsh drum like the m16's. quote:Quality of Life the object culling sounds like they're doing that item-by-item, rather than preventing this from happening in the first place
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pnutz posted:also I was wondering when they were going to underload the ppsh drum like the m16's. the m16 isnt underloaded, 20-round magazines were the standard issue when the rifle was first released.
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Deutsch Nozzle posted:the m16 isnt underloaded, 20-round magazines were the standard issue when the rifle was first released. The M16 is underloaded to hold 18 rounds in a mag to simulate reliability problems with the 'disposable' magazine concept.
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i remember counting the shots at one point, because it felt like it ran out of ammo too soon. thought i had counted 20, but i guess not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Pumped for the heli keybinding. I really want collective on W and S. Right now the rest of the control scheme feels pretty good but I basically need to constantly remind myself to not try to use w and s
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http://steamcommunity.com/games/418460/announcements/detail/1452827317622218334 AK feels pretty good now
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