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Spiteski
Aug 27, 2013



Madurai posted:

It's hard to be sure, but isn't this map much bigger than any of the ones currently in rotation for ground combat? Maybe that's the test.

The map I found playing definitely isn't as big as most of the high tier variants of maps.

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Nfcknblvbl
Jul 15, 2002

Kesper North posted:

i just like saying "haboob"

https://i.imgur.com/0M1hlgb.mp4

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
hahaha gently caress i'd forgotten about that scene

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Madurai posted:

It's hard to be sure, but isn't this map much bigger than any of the ones currently in rotation for ground combat? Maybe that's the test.

Bigger than Red Desert?
Side question: Does Red Desert even still exist?

Punished Ape
Sep 17, 2021
Panam dumping cyberwhiskey into her eye socket :awesomelon:

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...



Mr. Pickles
Mar 19, 2014



Punished Ape posted:

I really wish they'd release more variations of those backpacks from a long time ago.

just make camo twigs available for pete's sake

Unperson_47
Oct 14, 2007



I'm just here to do donuts and sick jumps while getting endlessly blown up in my light tanks

snail
Sep 25, 2008

CHEESE!

The 2 year Veteran decal is only 365 days away...

... he says as he's about to collect the 5 year decal.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
i have been called out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3FI1EUDZKk

Keru
Aug 2, 2004

'n suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us 'n the sky was full of what looked like 'uge bats, all swooping 'n screeching 'n divin' around the ute.
wow they sure seem to run into nonstop hackers :allears:

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Keru posted:

wow they sure seem to run into nonstop hackers :allears:

Getting accused of hacking by that guy is a rite of passage for us top-tier Air AB folks, I am kinda chuffed rn :3

He went by "VPOHAX" for a long time, seems to be absolutely obsessed with trying to prove that the top AB squads are cheating/hacking (with videos that actually show well-known bugs in the replay system).

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Kesper North posted:

Getting accused of hacking by that guy is a rite of passage for us top-tier Air AB folks, I am kinda chuffed rn :3

He went by "VPOHAX" for a long time, seems to be absolutely obsessed with trying to prove that the top AB squads are cheating/hacking (with videos that actually show well-known bugs in the replay system).

I can barely tell what the hell he's complaining about because he fast forwards through the points where you'd normally slow the footage down to show you didn't get hit or whatever. Even then...most videos I'm pretty sure I'm spotting the other plane/missile that ends up tagging him.

Very weird person.

Keru
Aug 2, 2004

'n suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us 'n the sky was full of what looked like 'uge bats, all swooping 'n screeching 'n divin' around the ute.

Kesper North posted:

Getting accused of hacking by that guy is a rite of passage for us top-tier Air AB folks, I am kinda chuffed rn :3

He went by "VPOHAX" for a long time, seems to be absolutely obsessed with trying to prove that the top AB squads are cheating/hacking (with videos that actually show well-known bugs in the replay system).

yeah, all I could see in that video was just normal Replay behavior, lmao.

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

There’s no easy way to say this so I’m just going to come out and say it.

The 76mm Shermans are better than the Panthers.

Nfcknblvbl
Jul 15, 2002

Lord Ludikrous posted:

There’s no easy way to say this so I’m just going to come out and say it.

The 76mm Shermans are better than the Panthers.

I agree unless if it's a sniper duel.

Padams
Jun 30, 2000

I Have the Power

to turn your property's lights off

Lord Ludikrous posted:

There’s no easy way to say this so I’m just going to come out and say it.

The 76mm Shermans are better than the Panthers.

76mm Shermans are an absolute menace in the hands of a decent player. While anything is a menace in the hands of a decent player the fast fire rate, decent speed, and stabilizer make it better than you’d think.

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

Padams posted:

76mm Shermans are an absolute menace in the hands of a decent player. While anything is a menace in the hands of a decent player the fast fire rate, decent speed, and stabilizer make it better than you’d think.

Don't forget the roof mounted .50 and the smoke shells, the latter of which have proven particularly useful.

Case in point the other day I found myself on the wrong end of a Tiger II at distance in open terrain. Decided to YOLO it and popped some smoke in their face.

https://i.imgur.com/8d9Ugmk.mp4

Charged across an open field.

https://i.imgur.com/bOglpFq.mp4

Got a flanking shot in.

https://i.imgur.com/NG2sV3u.mp4

Oh and don't worry about those Tigers, they got rekt too.

https://i.imgur.com/ZnkyTGL.mp4

Now in fairness, had the opposing players been paying attention I should have been killed on the charge or failing that definitely popped by one of the two Tiger Is, but hey, the humble smoke shell turned things around.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

All of the stabilized Shermans benefit from nearly-suicidally-aggressive play with smoke. The Jumbos are just fun on a bun when played like that.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
War Thunder is a gateway drug. What you guys need is to also expand into other games. (Joke. WT is great, it's my first love.) Still, check out other flying games and start losing money in sim gear.

Call this the quarterly recruitment post.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSQOrFyiMlYgpCPaCkB2E6i52UptYSRMlGQoa1pWnEy&s

All this you can partake in by joining the Discord at: https://discord.gg/airgoons
Thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3633891

But most of the activity nowadays is on Discord.

AIR GOON RECRUITMENT




First type of event:

quote:

The Long Afternoon War, a dynamic, player commanded war that combined DCS, Arma 3, Microsoft Flight Simulator, and Command: Modern Operations into one game! It is mainly played in DCS. Played every Saturday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhAwpb5XYOQ


So wots all this then?


DCS World is a flight sim with modules, individually purchased planes that simulate various helicopters and fixed wing aircraft of mostly the modern era. The game includes non-flyable AI assets, and tons of ground units of all kinds. Game requires a lot of patience, as these airplanes are started manually with each system modeled, and the nerds that fly them click the buttons in the cockpit to achieve what they need to do. The sim is good enough to be used by real air forces for training for planes, such as the US Air National Guard for the A-10, and the French Air Force for the Mirage 2000. Our players will talk on the radio channels with air traffic control and air battle management, and they will use different channels to communicate with their wingmen. Each flight will have its own objectives as part of the package, and the flight leads will write up their plan before game day, and after the game, their after action report. Each days’ game will probably last about 1.5 hours to 2 hours. We’ll stream it both from the perspective of a pilot, and from the air battle manager station’s radar screen.

Does it sound complex? Oh gently caress yeah, it is! But it’s a lot of fun. We hope to attract the interest of non-plane goons and are more than happy to explain terms and describe what we do. Don’t hesitate to ask questions, and we look forward to sharing nerdery in this thread or the Discord.







SECOND EVENT

MERCENARY CAMPAIGN, Brownwater Corporation. Played mostly on Sundays.

quote:

Ludicrous plot lines, lots of free planes, crazy stuff, insane plot, and even more. Played mostly on Sunday in DCS. Very newbie friendly!








An example mission guidance from a few weeks ago:

"Once we start bombing the vatican, the adrenochrome festival will be effectively disrupted, and the cyberPope should come down off of his throne and start tearing poo poo up
5m after he's disconnected from the adrenothrone, he'll be vulnerable to mk84's and other lamer munitions
He won't pull out his superweapon unless he's threatened
We will get a vague text description of whats happening when he uses it"





THIRD EVENT:

quote:

FALCON BMS, The original, the free, the legendary. The absolute queen of F-16 simulation. Older than most, yet better in so many ways.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHQmTmq0T7c
I'm calling it "Regular BMs with Gorson" - I see no problems with that name. I will frag the missions and post them to discord ahead of time. 🫵 choose the mission and post results (if you want). Feel free to request missions, or escorts, whatever. You can also frag your own missions if you like. The idea here is to get people over the hump that is the janky-rear end BMS campaign interface and right into flying with goons.

I know we have a small handful of people who would like to play this game but if there is no interest that's ok I will likely not cry. I am tentatively going to run this on Tuesday nights Central Time USA, but am open to other days and times.

Scenario:

In this timeline Khomeini was installed as a religious figure in 1979 thus avoiding the revolution. Iraq continued their military build-up through the 80's. The US, fearful of a Iraqi strangehold on the region, supported the Shah and provided Iran with modern planes and equipment. In the meantime Khomeini worked behind the scenes to consolidate power and undermine the Shah's rule. Calls for reform and increased representation by religious figures were ignored; riots exploded across Iran in 1991 (organized and supported by Khomeini) and in 1992 the Shah was overthrown and Khomeini put in place as supreme leader. The US immediately pulled support and cancelled all contracts with Iran, retreating to their Saudi allies and consolidating power there.

Iraq, sensing that both Iran and the US were on their heels, launches a full invasion of Iran on Sept 5, 1992. The Gulf War has begun.

Don't know what BMS is, why you should play, what makes it better (and worse) than DCS, issues with setup or configuration? Just ask.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
but that just sounds like war thunder with extra steps

(I joke, Vahaklya is great, these games are great)

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost

Lord Ludikrous posted:

Don't forget the roof mounted .50 and the smoke shells, the latter of which have proven particularly useful.

The roof-mounted 50cal is the :discourse: on the Sherman. So many APCs and SPAA get shredded by them, and they're a credible threat to any aircraft

Kesper North posted:

but that just sounds like war thunder with extra steps

I've always been interested, but War Thunder is so easy to play

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
There’s folks who play MSFS and DCS with an xbox controller. You can also get real solid sticks now for 120 bucks that will serve in the most serious pits.

And on the cheaper end, sticks for a 50 dollar bill. And bunch of goons will drag you to the finish line if you just ask for help learning.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
A heli op AAR from Long Afternoon War:

Mederlock posted:

Package Lead AAR

We were tasked with escorting some grievously wounded soldiers and some VIP's out of Rio Gallegos, as with the PLA fleet just off-shore fixed wing assets weren't available to evacuate them. Our operational leads decided to send us out during twilight to reduce our visual signature, as we received intel that some disgruntled rioters may have had small arms and were willing to use them. After establishing our route and approach, we took off and flew together out to Rio Gallegos. The evening darkness came quickly, and with the cloud cover and weak moonlight, we had to engage our spotlights and NVG's to stay on track.

As we dropped our altitude and started flying over the city, we started taking small arms fire but it didn't cause any serious damage. Orca and Bandido successfully made their landings at the makeshift hospital's at 25th Rgt's base in town and loaded up all of the severely wounded soldiers successfully. Delfin also landed successfully and got the VIP's and their family's out, however the lighting was inconsistent at the LZ and gave Dragones trouble, leading to a loss of one airframe and leading to a wave-off for the rest of the flight, meaning they didn't extract any of the VIP's favoured staff.

The flight home was extremely challenging in the pitch black, and it seems the small arms damaged the nav systems in the Gazelle's. With a mix of navigator help and RWR pings from our EWR, we were able to get oriented and got our pax to FARP Sophie successfully, where they were shuttled further back on C-130's


What went well

Excellent pilotage out there last evening! Low level flying, at night, with small arms fire, with tight and poorly lit LZ's, and limited SA options, and we still managed to get on target, land, load our passengers, and get back to base successfully. Coordination between flight's was good, and we managed to work together well to get back to FARP Sophie.

Where we can improve

We need to emphasize the need for appropriate lighting for our ground crews, as both FARP Sophie and the LZ's were lacking appropriate illumination. Our spotlights must have been pretty dirty too, as only Orca's was effective enough to see clearly. The ADF beacons all seem to have been targeted by PLA EWAR, as we couldn't get a fix on them for the whole mission.

Photo Dump
Take-off/Flying in

Twilight drops off fast

Entering the City, Dark AF LZ's

Riotous bedlam in the city

Someone remembers to pop a flare at the LZ's

We can see so much outside the cockpit rn

FARP Sophie after landing

Captain Stalin
May 11, 2004

Have no fear, the Captain is here!
Man, the ground grind is way harder than the air and I'm only just now at rank 6.

Is there some GRB equivalent to ground pounding for air? Anything to squeeze even a few more RP per game would make this a bit more bearable.

mmkay
Oct 21, 2010

Spawn camping.

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013
Staying alive longer and winning. That's it.

Oh and have premium.

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


Point capping is the simgular most rewarding ground rb action. Getting in the front lines and duking it out successfully gives you more than being an elite sniper.

Punished Ape
Sep 17, 2021
Actions have diminishing returns. Time played with a correspondingly high activity is, by far, how you earn most of your points.

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

If you're trying to rank up rapidly the US and USSR are good choice to main in, as their main mediums (the M4 and T-34 respectively) are strong brawlers that pack a punch and can push hard on points and easily flip around for a flank n' spank. Plus they have enough variants that should your tank get blown up, you have at least one or two other variants you can hop into. The M4 is the better tank but the USSR aircraft are generally better for the ground RB meta.

Germany doesn't brawl so well but the Panzer IV F2 and up packs excellent firepower. You can also opt to live the StuG life if you fancy life as an ambush predator but its tricky to play aggressively and take points.

Great Britain specialises their tanks hard so you're either absurdly fast and made of paper, or absurdly slow and almost indestructible, but always with mediocre firepower and an appalling reverse speed. If you try and rank up with Britain it will take forever and suck the whole time.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

What actually determines activity %? I get extremely low scores a lot of the time when I'm actively engaged the whole battle.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Saros posted:

What actually determines activity %? I get extremely low scores a lot of the time when I'm actively engaged the whole battle.

It depends on how you did compared to the highest scorer, I think.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Lord Ludikrous posted:

Great Britain specialises their tanks hard so you're either absurdly fast and made of paper, or absurdly slow and almost indestructible, but always with mediocre firepower and an appalling reverse speed. If you try and rank up with Britain it will take forever and suck the whole time.

GB has some great tanks surrounded by some filler tanks, but the biggest problem is that they are the most vulnerable to Gaijin’s seeming unwillingness to have solid shot, APDS, or HESH perform consistently at literally any level.

Captain Stalin
May 11, 2004

Have no fear, the Captain is here!
https://forum.warthunder.com/t/planned-battle-rating-changes-for-april-2024/97071

Most of the MiG 15s, 17s and Sabers went down 0.3 in BR . Sucks to be the 7.0 and 7.3 jets that are suddenly gonna face F-86As and MiG-15s.

I wonder why they're pushing it all down though. Were those planes getting whacked by an undertiered missile?

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

MrYenko posted:

GB has some great tanks surrounded by some filler tanks, but the biggest problem is that they are the most vulnerable to Gaijin’s seeming unwillingness to have solid shot, APDS, or HESH perform consistently at literally any level.

Absolutely, I would be quite agreeable to the notion of upping the potency of solid shot/APDS somewhat to help represent the fact that having 8 kilograms of metal enter the fighting compartment at 900 metres a second is generally contrary to the good performance of said vehicle.

Some interesting changes in the BR list, lots of the early T-34s going up to 4.0 and the M18 Hellcat and its variants all going up to 6.0.

Punished Ape
Sep 17, 2021

Captain Stalin posted:

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/planned-battle-rating-changes-for-april-2024/97071

Most of the MiG 15s, 17s and Sabers went down 0.3 in BR . Sucks to be the 7.0 and 7.3 jets that are suddenly gonna face F-86As and MiG-15s.

I wonder why they're pushing it all down though. Were those planes getting whacked by an undertiered missile?

Probably. There are huge jumps in missile and plane capabilities within the over-compressed post-war BRs, so any adjustment is only going to shift the suffering somewhere else. Today it's the Me 262, F-80, and Mig 9's turn to be broken on the wheel.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Punished Ape posted:

Probably. There are huge jumps in missile and plane capabilities within the over-compressed post-war BRs, so any adjustment is only going to shift the suffering somewhere else. Today it's the Me 262, F-80, and Mig 9's turn to be broken on the wheel.

Ya, flying F-86s against MiG-19s and F-104s was similarly unfun. They really can’t fix it without probably a full 2.0 lift in the overall airRB cap, though. The compression is really really bad.

Captain Stalin
May 11, 2004

Have no fear, the Captain is here!
Is the image of a Spitfire Mk 24 fighting the MiG-15Bis ISH more funny or sad?

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

Hipper down to 5.7 for some reason.

Did the HE changes really mess it up?

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Spiteski
Aug 27, 2013



Saros posted:

What actually determines activity %? I get extremely low scores a lot of the time when I'm actively engaged the whole battle.

I've got an inkling it also counts "different" activities higher. Like I've had 10+ kill matches that were at 85%, and then matches with 5 kills, 2 assists, and a couple caps that were 97% so I think it's diminishing returns on doing the same thing the whole game

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