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Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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These games would really benefit from a scene skip option. I'm really not looking forward to going through this door again for the sake of Mira.

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Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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Jill always struck me as the intellectual counterpart to Estelle. They really have a lot of similarities, but Estelle is more about action and Jill is more about planning.

I mean, let's be honest. Planning things really isn't Estelle's strong point.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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She just got lucky in the fact that "beat it with a stick" was the best plan for most of her problems.

I mean, wouldn't you want to beat Weissman with a stick? Pretty sure everyone who met him did.

Rabbi Raccoon fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Jun 30, 2017

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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When I think of Ruan in the first game I think of a killer boat chase

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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I actually found her to be pretty useful. Not exactly overpowered but great in her own right with one great thing that puts her ahead for a bit

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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I never used Schera unless forced to. Wind isn't a great element to be forced into past the first chapter of the first game, and by the time you get access to her again, you need all 4 characters to be doing something other than affecting the turn order non-stop (seriously that final dungeon is a gigantic pile of bullshit). She actively dragged my party down whenever she got forced into it in SC. She's not bad...there's just always a better option.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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I love that every single person is on Ries' side

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Mar 31, 2009

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EponymousMrYar posted:

If it had the incoherent yelling then Really Pants would have game over'd at that dragon dive and the entire fight would have been based around him not getting a turn to do exactly that.

I think that's kinda the point of the Agate fight. Agate is billed as "all S-Breaks, all the time" which is kinda intimidating to be up against. He's also one of the few characters to have an S-Break that hits everyone. It has all the markings of an end of chapter boss fight.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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That was probably my least favorite door. I never really got invested in their story.

Also a little fun fact, if you start a New Game Plus and carry over the items, you get their night sticks.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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It stopped being funny partway through the first half of this door.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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I like that they FINALLY made Tita a viable character for the final boss fight. It was so long overdue. And man, her and Agate slaughtered it on my playthrough. Tita is easily top-tier from this point on.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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Yay Estelle!

Going on stats alone, she'd be a bad choice this time around. Now that you can switch her in and out, her all-around above average stats kinda pale in comparison to the specialists. But her versatile crafts and above average reach (and man, her range can be unrealistically ludicrous by the end if memory serves) keep her competitive with everyone else. Honestly, how often do you get an RPG where you have to go out of your way to get a lovely party? Pokemon excluded.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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nrook posted:

It's a rare piece of fiction where the protagonist is everyone's favorite character.

Olivier isn't the protagonist

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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That's why she has Joshua; to take care of things that can't be fixed with a good beating.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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The thing is, while it is almost all luck based, that makes it easier as it goes on. I beat the last guy by at least 1000 points on my playthrough, first try. By the same token, the first guy took me 4 tries.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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I like it because it helps turn Estelle into an old school RPG character who can hurt enemies from 50 feet away

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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If Estelle was in every other RPG she'd shorten the games by half because she is not having any of your introspective bullshit.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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Maybe they can imagine up a therapist for Renne. But she'd probably send him screaming for the hills.

Also it's very subtle but you can see Josette is a lot more comfortable with these people than she was at the beginning.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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Agate and Estelle for the first one, then Julia and Renne for number 2.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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At first I thought it was weird that the Ravens showed up in Kloe's section, but then I replayed the first game and remembered they debuted in her chapter. Oops.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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The moment I saw Phillip was the boss here, I knew what was coming later this chapter. And I got ridiculously excited.

Rabbi Raccoon fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Aug 3, 2017

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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The reason I didn't like this door didn't hit me until I saw it in this format.

This is technically a fantasy RPG series. But when you get down to it, it's more like Star Ocean, where even the most fantastical things are explained as science, not magic. There's not too much mythology, there's mostly history that has plenty of evidence supporting it. There's no "they say back when..." there's only definitive facts that are pretty well known. And in that kind of setting, a story about a talking baby dragon that played with an orphan all day and saved her life after she fell doesn't really fit in well.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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NotASmartMan posted:

Anything to do with Aureole seems pretty magic related as well, it being considered a gift from the Goddess and all. Plus there's Ragnard.

Even the Aureole has a scientific explanation (hell, we just got more info on it) and Ragnard is relatively minor. I just don't feel like the story fits in very well. Unless Luciola targeted that girl for some reason.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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Schera and Zin because our senior bracers need to strut their stuff

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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It's really nice that Carna warns you that Alicia is the next fight

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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Pardon the double post, but the latest update has been released. Not sure how recently it was, but the Quartz breaking bug is fixed and there's a new Turbo feature, which seems to move things slightly faster

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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Really Pants posted:

I recommend Julia for the second, Julia and Kloe for the third, and Estelle and Joshua for the fourth.

Sounds good to me

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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Everyone I know who played this always said Cid in SC was one of the harder fights and one of the easier ones this time around. But I found him easy in SC and hard as hell in TC simply because his backup tended to gang up on one character at a time for me.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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I bet Kanone's favorite movie is Fatal Attraction. Whenever someone brings up The Notebook or Titanic as a great romance movie, she rolls her eyes and asks if anyone else has tried to lay siege to a castle to prove their love.

Also I have no idea how much those mines do, in any of the games. I have never seen them lain near my characters or had them lured that way.

Rabbi Raccoon fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Aug 20, 2017

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Mar 31, 2009

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Justin_Brett posted:

To be fair Richard's issues with Cassius are way bigger than Estelle's, guy pulled a coup because he thought so highly of the guy and so little of himself.

Exactly. Estelle's journey was never really about Cassius. He was an inspiration for her, sure, but ultimately her story was about her and Joshua.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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It should be noted that if you lose to Cassius (and one boss later), you get the standard "Retry" option that tones him down a bit and "Retry (Easy)" because even Falcom realized how badass Cassius is.

EDIT: Also I think you only get the Divine Blade's Emblem if you beat him on his normal difficulty. If you need to retry, you don't get it.

Rabbi Raccoon fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Aug 24, 2017

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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You know, these games give their human opponents realistic HP. In fact, you tend to match the HP of the big human bosses from the previous games. And it's heavily implied (if not outright said) that these copies are exact, down to ability, strength, and technique.

Cassius Bright is tougher than a goddamn giant robot. Reverie didn't stand a chance.

Also on a related note, does anyone have a copy of that scene where Cassius doesn't let the party finish it off? Or at least a transcript? I'm just curious to see how it plays out differently.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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I love that EVERYONE brings Kloe and Olivier to that fight.

Thanks!

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Josette really does get some good development over the trilogy for someone whose only real significance is in the first half of the first game. Still fairly easily rattled, now she composes herself much quicker. She's started accepting help when needed and has formed solid relationships outside of her family (notably Klaudia and Joshua, but there's a few others that aren't quite as strong). She's come a long way since the brat who stole a Septium Stone from Rolent.

She could have easily been a throwaway character, or a shallow, stereotypical rival, but this series doesn't really do either of those.

Now if only she was worth a drat in battle. Even getting rid of those drat Earth locked slots would help

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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Really Pants posted:

IMPERIAL INTELLIGENCE, EYES ONLY: Cassius Bright sure is dreamy, do you think he's a good kisser

He has facial hair so by default he's a C+ kisser. It only goes up from there.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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I was always curious about the max level in games that handle experience like this. Although the only ones that come to mind are this and Suikoden (And, I assume, the rest of the Legends of Heroes series)

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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Anelace may not be directly involved in the overall plot of the first two games, but she does have a strong connection to a number of characters who do. Of all the Bracers the party interacts with, her or Kurt would have been the most fitting. And even the Lord of Phantasma likes to join in Liberl's second most popular pastime: watching Kurt suffer many wounds to the head.

The first most popular is of course shoving Estelle and Joshua together.

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Mar 31, 2009

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I honestly thought it was gonna be a copy of Kevin, similar to Cassius and the crew. Going by what he was saying earlier about his real self, I was 100% positive that's what the game was leading us to.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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EponymousMrYar posted:

Cassius's Genre Savvy-ness has rubbed off on lots of characters by now :v:

Cassius is so genre savvy I'm half convinced one day he's gonna break out the game and troll the entire world

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Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

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In a lesser RPG that last scene would have everyone jumping right into the fray. The fact that Tita, Josette, and the casters (save Renne) stay back and provide cover is one of those nice little touches I love the series for

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