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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is: This poll is closed.
Labour	907	49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative)	48	2.64%
Liberal Democrats	31	1.71%
UKIP	13	0.72%
Plaid Cymru	25	1.38%
Green	22	1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party	12	0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party	1	0.06%
Scottish National Party	59	3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist	4	0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian	3	0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist	36	1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots	35	1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash	8	0.44%
Monster Raving Loony	49	2.70%
Space Navies Party	39	2.15%
Independent / Single Issue	2	0.11%
Can't Vote	188	10.35%
Won't Vote	8	0.44%
Spoiled Ballot	15	0.83%
Pissflaps	312	17.17%
Total:	1817 votes

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Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
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Local government elections were held across Great Britain, with Conservatives making significant gains of 500 seats and seizing control of 11 councils. UKIP lost all 145 seats they were defending. Labour lost 300+ seats and Liberal Democrats lost 41. Labour is beaten into third place by the Conservatives in Scotland, although the SNP is the largest party by a wide margin.
The Conservatives won four out of six city mayoral races, including Tees Valley, where the Conservative candidate promised public ownership of the local airport, and the West Midlands. The comma there is important. Theresa May, holding together a hair thin majority in Parliament, called a snap general election about a month beforehand. It went through easily under the terms of the FTPA, with multipartisan support.
It was expected to be a ~~Conservative~~ ~~Theresa May's Team~~ Conservative landslide, but now something strange is happening in the polls.

All this sets the stage for:

Who Is Running?

� The Labour Party

Once a sensible centre-left party, has now allegedly become a revolutionary Marxist-Leninist party on account of having a moderate democratic-socialist leader and a chancellor who read some economists. Wants to save the NHS, setup an NES for ~~retro game night~~ education, tax the wealthy, scrap austerity, and prioritize the many over the few.
Their home secretary did want a billion extra police at a sixpence a month rather than ensuring that existing ones don't have to use foodbanks and scrapping ineffective laws, but now they're more about making prison a last resort.
Allegedly will take us back to the 70s and bring back disco. Can you resist the seductive power of Jeremy Corbyn?
Manifesto

� The Co-operative Party

Centre-left political party supporting co-operative values. All Co-operative Party MPs are Labour Party MPs, but not all Labour Party MPs are Co-operative Party MPs, although they did nearly split after Brexit. Gordon Brown and Ed "Ed Balls" Balls were notable members. His wife Yvette Cooper is not, due to her insistence on the electric chair for people who steal Truly Irresistible sausages.
Manifesto

� The Theresa May Team (officially the Conservative and Unionist Party)

Wants a red white and blue Brexit, with less reds and more whites. Prefers no deal to a bad deal on Brexit, even though no deal is the worst deal. Pledges to reduce net migration to the tens of thousands by deporting benefits claimants to the colonies. Current manifesto is the words 'Strong and Stable' repeated over and over and something about feeding people with dementia into a shredder.
Wants a free vote on loving about on horseback bothering livestock. Will replace the internet with dead foxes and Saudi arms receipts.
Manifesto

� Liberal Democrats

Prefers a soft Brexit with a second referendum, bans on the chemicals that turn frogs gay, and probably a second coalition with the Tories or whoever will have them. Actual good policies include cannabis legalization and a support for encryption.
Manifesto

� Green Party

Environmentalist anti-Brexit party. Will scrap the new nuclear plants and replace them with energy from healing crystals.
Manifesto

� United Kingdom Independence Party

Led by a walking Twitter egg turned angry testicle. Vote has collapsed since Brexit. Currently proposing a 'one in one out' immigration system and bans on vitamin D destroying burqas. Expect burbling about 'religiously motivated rape'. Will hopefully propose some amusing last minute lolbertarian policies on top of the usual shite.
Manifesto

� Scots Naitional Pairtie

Actually, they're civic nationalists. Angling for a second IndyRef after the Brexit deal. Pro-EU.
Manifesto

� Scots Socialist Pairtie

Still more electable than Scottish Labour.
Manifesto

� Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party

Strongly Unionist. Tory. A lot more pro-European than the Theresa May Party, but will probably be railroaded into Brexit means Brexit. Thinks Corbyn mocks Oor Boys because he's friends with Irishmen.
Manifesto

� Plaid Cymru

Cenedlaetholwyr Cymreig. Chwith adain mewn ardaloedd dinesig, adain dde mewn ardaloedd gwledig. Dal yn well na'r Tor�aid.
Maniffesto

� Sinn F�in

Led by Sinn F�in Dad (and Michelle O'Neill in the North). They're left wing and their MPs somehow manage to do more useful work than those of some English constituencies despite refusing to turn up. Supports Irish reunification and republicanism.
Manifesto

� SDLP

Sounds like a graphics standard for laptops, logo looks like a detergent company. Allied somewhat with The Labour Party, they're a social-democratic party that support reunification but not so much that they won't travel to London.
Manifesto

� Democratic Unionist Party

Right wing Protestant party. Anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-Pope. Position on aborting gay popes unknown. Believes in the prosperity gospel and horse solaria.
Manifesto

� Ulster Unionist Party

Diet unionists. Less of the insane religious angle, still economically right wing.
Manifesto

� Alliance Party of Northern Ireland

Liberal centrists. Nonsectarian. May be linked with the Liberal Democrats, if they feel like it.
Manifesto

� Traditional Unionist Voice

Jim Allister's voice. Nobody wants to hear it.
Manifesto

� People Before Profit Alliance

Anti-austerity party active across all Ireland. Socialist, Trotskyist and Eurosceptic.
Manifesto

So Who Do I Vote For?
Vote For Policies 2017 Edition

Last Time Around

In Other News

� Manchester is hit by a bomb attack, killing 23 people. A UKIP ex-MEP calls for the death penalty for suicide bombers. Theresa May starts Operation Peterloo, allowing 5,000 soldiers to replace armed police in parts of the country.
� Buckingham Palace announces that the Duke of Edinburgh is to step down from carrying out royal engagements in the autumn. Boris Johnson is to take over duties of making racist remarks to foreigners.
� The NHS is suffers a major ransomware attack, demanding ransom money for the return of NHS functionality. Whereabouts of Jeremy 'Neo' Hunt unknown.
� Human rights and anti-torture campaigner Muhammad Rabbani is charged under the Terrorism Act for refusing to hand over passwords to his laptop containing torture victims' confidential details to ~~sex perverts~~Heathrow security.
� Moors murderer Tony Blair says the left wing press are being unfair to Donald Trump. Unrelated, Ian Brady dies in hospital.
� Buy-to-let bigot Fergus Wilson updated his terms, now banning zero-hours workers, single parents, and domestic violence victims from renting his properties, in addition to low-paid workers, benefit claimants, and 'the coloureds'.
� Theresa May releases a terrifying vision for a Tory-regulated internet full of blocked content, forced Prevent ads, and a levy on internet companies "to pay for advertising schemes to tell people about the dangers of the internet."
� Groby Pool scores top dog for outdoor activities.
� Days until the general election: 7
� Days until Super Hard Double Red White and Blue Brexit Means Brexit:

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R. Guyovich posted:

PISSFLAPS AND YOU

reply to pissflaps if you are capable of doing so like a normal person without whining about how much you can't stand pissflaps and his posting

if you are not capable of doing this, shut the gently caress up about pissflaps and do whatever it takes to not be bothered with him

i am going to start probing all parties in pissflaps-related derails and encourage posters itt to report those who cannot abide by this rule

Namtab posted:

PISSFLAPS AND YAOI

I'm going to seduce pissflaps

Update :siren:

Holy poo poo. A whole lot of stuff has happened since the Election, but basically Corbyn the absolute lad massively outperformed expectations, May massively underperformed, and there's now a hung parliament.
Labour gained Kensington and Chelsea. Largest shift since Attlee.

Theresa May has announced she will attempt to form a government, many people are assuming this will come with DUP backing, which she didn't ask them about, and SF are saying this violates the Good Friday Agreement.

Nick Clegg lost his seat, as did some cabinet MPs, and SNP heavyweights Alex Salmond and Angus Robertson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSS1FIkGOX8

The BBC made a video of May's last stand:
https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/873293448954171395

And the renewed media focus on the DUP and Norn Iron has left many people asking:

Mister Adequate posted:

Alright lads and lasses, seeing as there's a lot of questions about Are Wee Country given the DUP issue, I'm going to put together a small effortpost that can hopefully clear some things up. Bear in mind that I've not actually lived in the province for some time now, and though it's an area of interest, it's not an area I could be called a specialist. You can probably assume that anyone correcting me is more accurate than I am. Also, full disclosure, family of mine was killed in the Shankill Road Bombing of 1993, and I in principle support unification, so various biases may show. Anyway, caveats out of the way, here goes:

What is Northern Ireland?

Northern Ireland occupies six of the thirty two historical counties of Ireland in the north-east of the island, and is one of the four constituent countries that make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (the other three being England, Wales, and Scotland). Whilst England has massive power due to population and hosting the actual UK Parliament, and Wales and Scotland have varying levels of devolved powers, Northern Ireland is a special case due to the legacy of the Troubles. NI is also sometimes called Ulster (Which isn't accurate to the historical Ulster and upsets some Nats as a result), or affectionately, Norn Iron, because that's how us eejits pronounce it. Norn Iron has basically no political connotations and is a pretty good informal term as a result.

What were The Troubles?

Most people will be aware that the Troubles were a period of enormous civil discord and conflict, primarily taking place in NI, lasting from the '60s to the late '90s. More specifically, it was a conflict between the 'Unionists' (So named due to their desire to remain in the United Kingdom) and the 'Nationalists' (Who support a united Ireland), with the Unionists getting under-the-table backing from UK state actors and the Nats having mostly to scrounge up support wherever they could, including weapons stolen from the Norwegian Army, AKs donated by Gaddafi, and various things bought in the US and smuggled over.

Anyway, the reasons for the conflict are vast and complicated, but at the simplest level, England embarked on an imperial project in Ireland that lasted almost a millennium, starting with the Norman invasion in the twelfth century. Over the long centuries the north of Ireland proved to be the most intractable to these foreign invaders, and as a result a huge number of settlers (mainly from Scotland) were brought into the region. So anyway Ireland wins independence, after literal centuries of revolts and rebellions, in the early years of the 20th century, but the settlements in the North had been effective enough to create a new identity of Ulster-Scots, and these people were fiercely loyal to the English throne. End result, Northern Ireland stays with the UK while the rest of Ireland goes their own way.

Unfortunately the settlement was not palatable to basically anyone, and tensions rose over the years, with Unionists terrified of an impending annexation by the Republic that would leave them all out of work at best, and Nats treated as second-class citizens, repressed by the Unionist-dominated coppers, and so on. In the late 60s this came to a head with the Battle of the Bogside, which was a fuckoff enormous riot in Derry (Or Londonderry if that's what you prefer). The Troubles were on. The Irish Republican Army (IRA) and Irish National Liberation Army (INLA) on the Nationalist side, and Ulster Defence Association (UDA), Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF), and a shitload of other wee groups and splinter factions on the Unionist side.

Basically we all spend the next thirty years bombing and shooting and baseball batting the shite out of each other, and Northern Ireland became a pretty brutal place, where police stations were armored like you'd expect to see in Iraq in 2006, violence was everyday, and Belfast at least had to be physically divided by huge-rear end walls euphemistically called Peace Lines because otherwise we all went into Permanent Riot Mode and it's like 28 Days Later up in.

So what ended this mess?

An extremely long and grueling political process, the Peace Process, whose cornerstone is commonly called the Good Friday Agreement. It is widely acknowledged to be a messy and imperfect situation, but it did well enough to put the worst of The Troubles in the past, and the few remaining diehards on both sides were mostly left out in the cold. In part this was because the peace process involved basically every group of relevance in the matter, which meant sitting down across the table from known terrorist leaders. Concessions of various sorts were made, one of the most contentious of which was prisoner releases of convicted terrorists and so on; not something many bereaved families want to see, but if it stops more families ending up in the same situation, it's something I'm personally able to live with.

As I say though, it was a good enough agreement to end the great majority of serious violence, despite ongoing issues with things like marches and so on. The thing is that one of the core, central, most indispensable parts of the agreement is the dissolution of a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, which brings us up to the current mess. There are many other ways in which the EU is an important guarantor of peace, but that is by far the main one. Almost everyone ended up in agreement on it, with referendums in both the North and Republic strongly in support of the agreement, and only one major political player opposed - the Democratic Unionist Party.

Wait, what about Sinn Fein? They don't take their seats, but could they, to change the maths?

Okay, Sinn Fein are/were the political wing of Irish Nationalism and were very strongly linked to the IRA, which is one of the main reasons aforesaid compromises were both hard to get and essential. They remain committed to a United Ireland, and they stand for UK General Elections in the North (They're also active in the Republic as a more 'normal' political party but that's not directly germane). They reliably get a handful of seats in Norn Iron, but due to history and objectives, they do not take the seats they win in the British Parliament. To do so would give legitimacy to British rule over Northern Ireland.

The Commons has 650 representatives, meaning on paper a party needs to win 326 seats in order to have a majority, and thereby have an uncomplicated mandate that only has to worry about their own party's MPs. Because SF doesn't take their seats, this number is reduced, usually to 323. This time around SF actually won seven seats, meaning that magic number for this Parliament is 322. As the Tories have 318, they need to find four seats from elsewhere to have the majority needed for getting things done. Everyone else is either too ideologically opposed to the Tories (e.g. the SNP) or has been badly burned by coalitions before (Liberal Democrats), which means the only game in town appears to be the DUP. In this instance, as the DUP have ten seats, a Tory-DUP coalition or alliance or whatever tots up to 328, which is a very narrow majority but enough.

However, there was last night a possible situation where the Tories and DUP would add up to about 323 seats, which would mean, should Sinn Fein actually take their seats, that this coalition would lose its majority. As SF loving detest the Tories with every fibre of their beings it is understandable that people could ask "Hang on... what if...?" but it was never really on the cards. Sinn Fein's party constitution explicitly forbids taking Westminster seats, and our dead, gay forum's general consensus is that whilst there may be some theoretical circumstance where they'd take their seats, we are talking about some kind of insane situation where they are needed in order to stop an existential threat. That all said, being able to kill a Tory-DUP coalition has to be the most tempting look at Westminster Sinn Fein's had in a long long time.

Alright, they're not taking their seats - So what about the DUP?

The Democratic Unionist Party, or DUP, are unique in UK politics in that they are an evangelical force that has considerable power at least in Norn Iron. They're anti-abortion, anti-gay-marriage, and have at least some people high in the party who deny climate change and are Young Earth Creationists. They were founded by the inimical Reverend Ian Paisley, who was, uh, firm in his stances on remaining part of the UK among other things. Now, normally this lot aren't doing anything on the UK stage as a whole, being more concerned with vetoing gay marriage or expansion of abortion rights in Norn Iron. Yesterday's election shattered that however; today the DUP are the only thing propping up Theresa May's government, giving them massive influence and power.

Now, the modern Conservative party has made attempts to be more socially progressive, and indeed they were the party who got gay marriage legislation through the Commons and legalized it in the UK minus Northern Ireland, and they more-or-less consider that stuff to be secondary at best, and a series of lost battles at worst. The DUP probably won't be demanding an abortion ban or anything, but they also can't be counted on to support anything progressive that comes up, because it's going to make Jimmy on the Newtownards Road extremely upset come next election time. Still, these are more-or-less negotiable or avoidable, and you'd be likely able to count on other parties supporting things like that regardless. The real problem is in Brexit.

Wait, Brexit? How does that effect Northern Ireland?

Remember when I said the Good Friday Agreement relied on an open border? Yeah, that's the problem. Regressive as they are in many ways, the DUP are smart enough to know that the border with the Republic is essential. Since the end of the Troubles, NI has seen a lot of new growth and development (place looks nothing like it did when I was wee), and the current economy is hugely reliant on being able to trade over the border with zero paperwork, fees, or anything else. You just hop in your truck in Newry, drive down to Drogheda, and start unloading.

So Brexit is going to put that to bed, because it will create a border between the United Kingdom and the European Union, a land border in the case of the island of Ireland. Absolutely everyone in Norn Iron is bricking it as a result because they know just how catastrophic this will be for the economy, and the DUP wants the softest Brexit they can get as a result. Whatever the border looks like, it needs to be as open to movement and trade as it is today, and every addition to that starts putting people out of work and closing businesses.

Unfortunately for prospects of their coalition, the Tories have taken very much the opposite tack; a Full English Brexit, a Red White and Blue Brexit, a Hard Brexit, "No deal is better than a bad deal", and so on. Characterize it as you please, the end result is the same, the Tories don't give a flying gently caress about NI or the consequences of Brexit, and have traded on promises of sticking it to the EU and being willing to crash out of the negotiations if they can't get the deal they want. Unfortunately, contrary to what they claim, the EU does not need us more than we need them, and given how done Brussels is with our stupid bullshit, they're not going to be very open to us pissing around.

Everything else can be negotiated or just put on the back burner until the next parliament, but because Article 50 has been triggered, and the negotiations are scheduled to start in a mere ten days, Brexit cannot. It is coming down the tracks with absolute inexorability, and no matter what is done, SOMEONE is going to be angry enough to pull their support out of Parliament and scuttle the whole thing. May wasn't actually wrong that going in with like a 50+ seat majority would strengthen her hand, but it was actually about domestic strength more than with the EU negotiators. Now, if she pursues the hard Brexit her party wants, the DUP will tell her to get out tae gently caress. If she pursues one soft enough to satisfy them, her own MPs will tell her to get out tae gently caress. And the thing is that this does not change if she goes. Sometimes you can shore things up with a change of leadership, but whatever poor sod is in charge, with the Commons distributed as it is, faces exactly the same situation and exactly the same problems.

Further Constitutional Complications

In order to secure peace in Norn Iron, the London government had to basically step back from any sort of party political involvement in the Province. The UK at large was supposed to act as a guarantor and mediator, with the authority to bring everyone together and have them sit down and find agreements, but largely staying hands-off otherwise. To explicitly favor one political party or enter into agreement with them is deeply and fundamentally problematic in this regard. This may be why there's no announcement of a formal coalition, to maintain plausible deniability over this matter, but the problem was never going to be in the official name of the thing.

As the North is currently mired in an existing political crisis anyway, with the devolved government in Stormont unable to agree on an Executive and therefore not currently actually sitting, far past the deadline for forming a government, so it's hard to imagine any of this coming at a worse time. That deadline was extended due to the General Election but things are only more complicated right now.

So... Brexit bad?

Brexit bad enough that, if handled badly, we could be in for Troubles 2: Electric Boogaloo, or a NI unification referendum, or God alone knows. I wouldn't expect a marked increase in violence but who can say for sure? And the various groups are much smaller than at their heights, but they're mostly still there, carrying on as criminal gangs more than anything, but no doubt all able to get guns and bombs together for a new campaign if needed.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Jun 10, 2017

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# ? Apr 16, 2024 18:26

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Snap election primer in 87 seconds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpSIzx0Ta0Y

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:03

ShaneMacGowansTeeth: May 22, 2007; I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

And as per usual, our thread motto and how we're all going to feel on the morning of June 9th

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:04

TheRat: Aug 30, 2006

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:04

Pissflaps: Oct 20, 2002; by VideoGames

quote:

Sorry mate, I've had a glass of wine and I can't quite tell whats what. What do you mean by this? You are looking forward to your worst fears being confirmed or something?

I just love election night telly.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:06

Lord of the Llamas: Jul 9, 2002; EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Pissflaps posted:

I just love election night telly.

I do hope you'll be providing us with live commentary.

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# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:07

Namtab: Feb 22, 2010

I'm going to kissflaps

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:08

Gorn Myson: Aug 8, 2007

Thats a cracking OP. Its the pickled onion flavour Monster Munch of OPs.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:08

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

Next phase of campaigning:

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:09

Namtab: Feb 22, 2010

Not putting me in the poll is an outrage and I urge you to use whichever option is closest in alphabetical order to namtab to vote for me

E: that would be "monster raving loony"

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:09

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Reminder:

quote:

So here we go - forget vote share, that's for internal wrangling afterwards and arguments about FPTP, the important thing is who ends up running the country and how much they're going to have to fight their own backbenchers afterwards.

To enter, quote this post (or PM me if you'd prefer to enter anonymously) with the total amount of seats you think will be won by:

CON: Currently 331 including the Speaker
LAB: Currently 229
LD: Currently 9
Other: 81

Only counting parties standing in the majority of seats and likely to get more than 5 seats, sorry regional party fans and the one UKIP supporter I know is still lurking.

Scoring will be simple - when the final result is announced, you will get one point for each seat you are off for each of those four. Lowest score wins. Failing to put in a guess for any of those four will be counted as a zero.

The price of entry is a �5 donation to the (registered, UK) charity of the winner's choice. It's on the honour system - I'll announce the winner and the winning charity on Monday the 12th (assuming no weirdness with recounts in any of the seats put the result) and provide a link for donations.

This is my entry:

CON: 331
LAB: 229
LD: 9
Other: 81

and my charity is the PDSA.

(Yes, I'm predicting exactly zero change because we are definitely in the weirdest timeline now and I genuinely have no clue how the election will pan out so I'm going for the funniest possible result)

Please remember to quote one of my posts if you want to enter because I'm only skimming the thread at the moment, if you've entered and I've not replied to you let me know.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:09

Guy Goodbody: Aug 31, 2016; by Nyc_Tattoo

I'm not from England, I don't know how things work over there, but why are Lib Dems in this election? Weren't they completely destroyed last time you guys decided to have an election? How are they still claiming to be a political party?

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:10

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Bangin' OP, very good photographs.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:10

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Guy Goodbody posted:

I'm not from England, I don't know how things work over there, but why are Lib Dems in this election? Weren't they completely destroyed last time you guys decided to have an election? How are they still claiming to be a political party?

They think the only way is up.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:10

Namtab: Feb 22, 2010

Guy Goodbody posted:

I'm not from England, I don't know how things work over there, but why are Lib Dems in this election? Weren't they completely destroyed last time you guys decided to have an election? How are they still claiming to be a political party?

By still having members and mps

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:11

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Guy Goodbody posted:

I'm not from England, I don't know how things work over there, but why are Lib Dems in this election? Weren't they completely destroyed last time you guys decided to have an election? How are they still claiming to be a political party?

That is not dead which can eternal lie about their policies, and with strange aeons even frogs may stop being gay because of chemicals.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:11

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

Please Satan give us the Labour majority.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:12

Pissflaps: Oct 20, 2002; by VideoGames

Lord of the Llamas posted:

I do hope you'll be providing us with live commentary.

I'll put you down as 'labour majority'.

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# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:12

Namtab: Feb 22, 2010

Namtab posted:

Not putting me in the poll is an outrage and I urge you to use whichever option is closest in alphabetical order to namtab to vote for me

E: that would be "monster raving loony"

Alternatively the mods should add a namtab option

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:12

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

there are nonsectarian parties in Northern Ireland? I thought that was against the law or something

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:12

Pablo Bluth: Sep 7, 2007; I've made a huge mistake.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:12

Serene Dragon: Mar 31, 2011

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

And as per usual, our thread motto and how we're all going to feel on the morning of June 9th

I am holding onto this because hope is too heart-breaking and brexit and the last GE and Trump nearly broke me.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:12

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

Tesseraction posted:

Please Satan give us the Labour majority.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:14

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Angepain posted:

there are nonsectarian parties in Northern Ireland? I thought that was against the law or something

Alliance, kinda, and PBPA, whose holy book is Gramsci's Prison Notebooks.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:14

Paperhouse: Dec 31, 2008; I think
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The poll in the OP with Labour as blue and Conservatives as red is triggering me. mods?

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:14

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Guy Goodbody posted:

I'm not from England, I don't know how things work over there, but why are Lib Dems in this election? Weren't they completely destroyed last time you guys decided to have an election? How are they still claiming to be a political party?

Well, uhh, look at the seat predictions in the post above yours.

Serious answer: there's plenty of parties who do even worse, they are still one of the more significant national parties. Plus the thing about them having a long history.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:14

Namtab: Feb 22, 2010

\o/ share your energy with Corbyn, only he can slay mayjin buu

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:15

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

Guy Goodbody posted:

I'm not from England, I don't know how things work over there, but why are Lib Dems in this election? Weren't they completely destroyed last time you guys decided to have an election? How are they still claiming to be a political party?

the worst thing about americans using the terms "england" and "the uk" interchangeably is that you're never quite sure if they're being too specific for no good reason or if they actually just don't know what your country is called

the lib dems have 1 mp in scotland and one in wales i'll have you know, so I'm assuming you live in the shetlands and are just very unobservant about politics

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:15

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Paperhouse posted:

The poll in the OP with Labour as blue and Conservatives as red is triggering me. mods?

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It's Labour red and Con Blue for me.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:15

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Angepain posted:

there are nonsectarian parties in Northern Ireland? I thought that was against the law or something

You normally have to declare as republican or unionist but there is an 'other' option for parties like Alliance. I'm pretty sure it's one of Mao's types of liberalism.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:15

NotJustANumber99: Feb 15, 2012; somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Pissflaps posted:

I just love election night telly.

Fair enough, it is exciting. This will surely be DImbleby's last. I wonder who will do future ones.

edit>> although I haven't checked is Andrew Neil already taking over?

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:15

Namtab: Feb 22, 2010

I'm boycotting the thread poll until I am included

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:16

SkySteak: Sep 9, 2010

The last election night I saw was Trump and that went from hopeful to apocalyptic within a few horus.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:17

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Guavanaut posted:

You normally have to declare as republican or unionist but there is an 'other' option for parties like Alliance. I'm pretty sure it's one of Mao's types of liberalism.

PBPA for example fought hard to register as Socialist

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:17

ISeeCuckedPeople: Feb 7, 2017; by Smythe

Reposting this since it was posted in what I assume was the middle of a debate:

Even though I'm an American I took yer poll fer poo poo an giggles.

http://imgur.com/a/Zer0v

The poll sucked - that or the way the campaigns present themselves is very misleading. Even I who follows British politics quite closely, was unable to decipher quite a bit of the policy questions.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:18

Pissflaps: Oct 20, 2002; by VideoGames

Namtab posted:

I'm boycotting the thread poll until I am included

I'm delighted with my strong early showing. Well on course to being recognised as the official Opposition.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:19

Hoops: Aug 19, 2005; A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

That parliawint thing is really played out

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:19

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

ISeeCuckedPeople posted:

Reposting this since it was posted in what I assume was the middle of a debate:

Even though I'm an American I took yer poll fer poo poo an giggles.

http://imgur.com/a/Zer0v

The poll sucked - that or the way the campaigns present themselves is very misleading. Even I who follows British politics quite closely, was unable to decipher quite a bit of the policy questions.

I mean, that you got lib dem might just mean you're not that well acquainted with UK politics.

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:20

SteelMentor: Oct 15, 2012; TOXIC

Ground floor, let's go Corbyn, it's Full Communism time. :getin:

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:20

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Namtab: Feb 22, 2010

ISeeCuckedPeople posted:

Reposting this since it was posted in what I assume was the middle of a debate:

Even though I'm an American I took yer poll fer poo poo an giggles.

http://imgur.com/a/Zer0v

The poll sucked - that or the way the campaigns present themselves is very misleading. Even I who follows British politics quite closely, was unable to decipher quite a bit of the policy questions.

We're going to have to have words about your ideas re: health policy

# ? Jun 1, 2017 00:21

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