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The highest buys a DJ lead ppv has ever done is 125k, you can't get ppv points on nothing.
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Jun 5, 2017 15:10
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Has Dana actually stated or even implied that PPV points were on offer for doing the TJ fight? I'm behind MM, but I didn't hear that Dana contradicted himself on the point of flyweight popularity and getting PPV dollars.
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Jun 5, 2017 15:13
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This feels kind of surprising because Dana has always read as a Lorne Michaels style squeaky wheel gets the grease kind of guy in his management style where the louder you are the more likely you are to get what you want so it's weird to see the squeaky wheel getting told to go gently caress it's self. But Dana isn't actually wrong.
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Jun 5, 2017 15:19
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Brain Curry posted:MMMDMMJ has never gotten ppv points so you might be better off doing the Amazon Prime twitch thing if you want to kick DJ a couple bucks. I read the thing and saw he doesn't get points I was just thinking more in terms of boosting his numbers so he has more bargaining power with the UFC, where the real money is.
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Jun 5, 2017 15:21
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Gay Horney posted:I read the thing and saw he doesn't get points I was just thinking more in terms of boosting his numbers so he has more bargaining power with the UFC, where the real money is. Yeah but even if he does get points and numbers, you're just throwing money at the people who are loving him over.
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Jun 5, 2017 15:27
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Sergio Pettis is probably a very happy boy that he's not on the cards. He'd get so hosed up.
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Jun 5, 2017 15:30
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fcuk dana mmdj is alright
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Jun 5, 2017 15:53
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Rough business
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Jun 5, 2017 16:00
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CommonShore posted:Yeah but even if he does get points and numbers, you're just throwing money at the people who are loving him over. Hmm... back to pirating it is...
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Jun 5, 2017 16:23
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Welcome to Bellator MMM"DJ"MMJ
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Jun 5, 2017 16:30
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eat poo poo dana.
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Jun 5, 2017 16:41
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If he wants a million a fight like he says or whatever, he should stop being bland as gently caress every moment he isn't in the cage. I love the guy and think he's a phenomenal fighter but he needs even a slight amount of self-awareness regarding his drawing ability and how his incredible blandness outside of the cage affects such ability. That said, it's a disgrace he doesn't get points.
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Jun 5, 2017 16:41
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I think danas going to hard ball him in an attempt to nip spreading Conoritis in the bud.
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Jun 5, 2017 16:46
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Work Friend Keven posted:I think danas going to hard ball him in an attempt to nip spreading Conoritis in the bud. Yeah I don't think DJ has seen even a hint of what Dana is capable of doing to gently caress over fighters
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Jun 5, 2017 16:48
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Work Friend Keven posted:It was always weird to me that the UFC appeared to run directly through Dana White and that there wasn't the guy who'd say "ah yeah that all makes sense, that makes sense. Let me take this back to the boss and see what I can do. Ah they said no." it's also hosed up that they renegotiate all these big fights on a per fight basis. it's honestly a miracle that anything gets done. it's really one of the things that a union could improve is some kind of standardization of pay and stuff because it is all over the place and the overhead is stupidly huge
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Jun 5, 2017 17:05
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mewse posted:Yeah I don't think DJ has seen even a hint of what Dana is capable of doing to gently caress over fighters the idea that he would just get rid of the flyweight division was pretty funny though
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Jun 5, 2017 17:05
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sportsgenius86 posted:If he wants a million a fight like he says or whatever, he should stop being bland as gently caress every moment he isn't in the cage. We've been over this -- people have only so much control over their persona and the marketability thereof. He is already a big weirdo and streams on Twitch -- he's not boring; he just can't turn on a switch and be someone else.
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Jun 5, 2017 17:13
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drat he's really committed to ducking tj
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Jun 5, 2017 17:23
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kimbo305 posted:We've been over this -- people have only so much control over their persona and the marketability thereof. The only thing worse than "bland or boring fighters" are fighters who are trying to ape people like Conor and Chael when they have no charisma or personality. The only thing I think more fighters should do is have an opponent in mind for the post fight interview rather than "I'll fight anyone".
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Jun 5, 2017 17:36
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Work Friend Keven posted:The highest buys a DJ lead ppv has ever done is 125k, you can't get ppv points on nothing. Yeah I can't remember how the points are structured, but you have to clear a certain threshold to get paid on points.
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EmmyOk posted:The only thing worse than "bland or boring fighters" are fighters who are trying to ape people like Conor and Chael when they have no charisma or personality. The only thing I think more fighters should do is have an opponent in mind for the post fight interview rather than "I'll fight anyone". Apparently that's too hard because 99% of fighters say that poo poo post-fight. It's obnoxious because generally it's not true and most guys are in it to get paid and would want to fight a Conor McGregor to get a huge payday.
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Jun 5, 2017 17:43
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Marching Powder posted:here's dj's version of the tj fight. good for mm for saying this
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Jun 5, 2017 17:45
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kimbo305 posted:We've been over this -- people have only so much control over their persona and the marketability thereof. This is complete bullshit by the way. Nobody, in any field, ever, is going to spend money promoting you if they don't either already know or very strongly suspect you'll make them money with or without their promotion.
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Jun 5, 2017 17:46
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our contrarian squad can spin anything though good work team
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Jun 5, 2017 17:46
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1st AD posted:Yeah I can't remember how the points are structured, but you have to clear a certain threshold to get paid on points. I think Eddie Alvarez was the last one with details of his ppv points that got released: quote:A tiered share of pay-per-view revenue, starting at "$1 for each ‘buy' between 200,000 and 400,000 buys, $2 per buy between 400,000 and 600,000 buys, and $2.50 per buy over 600,000 buys."
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Jun 5, 2017 17:47
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Work Friend Keven posted:This is complete bullshit by the way. Nobody, in any field, ever, is going to spend money promoting you if they don't either already know or very strongly suspect you'll make them money with or without their promotion. Yeah why would the UFC promote its most dominant champion?
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Jun 5, 2017 17:50
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Work Friend Keven posted:This is complete bullshit by the way. Nobody, in any field, ever, is going to spend money promoting you if they don't either already know or very strongly suspect you'll make them money with or without their promotion. no dude he's right the UFC facebook didn't post any pictures about his streak until fight week. nobody could overcome that lack of promotion
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Jun 5, 2017 17:50
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It really sucks actually that the two most dominant champions in the UFC fight a a combined weight significantly lower than Brock Lesnar
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Jun 5, 2017 17:51
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gotta say mighty mouse is really brave to speak out like that, writing 100000 words with only 5% battery
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Jun 5, 2017 17:52
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Like remember those web forum posts conor made when his record was like 3-0 over potatoes? He has been relentlessly self promoting his entire career, & growing his platform to do so as his profile raised. The UFC didn't do anything but give him a bigger stage to fight on. MM is the twitch guy, where's his remote from twitchcon for conan or something? Why is he never on talk shows? Why doesn't he go on one of the B tier ones and lift a fridge or bench press a stagehand? Why is the only social media content of his I've ever seen posted here a photo of him washing a fence? Why didn't he take the red panty night stuff and say it in interviews? Everyone says he's the P4P, why doesn't he call out some name 155 or 170 guy and demand a no weight limit fight that would never happen but would make everyone talk about it for two weeks? Why isn't he doing content for video game websites and magazines?
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Skip My Posts posted:no dude he's right the UFC facebook didn't post any pictures about his streak until fight week. nobody could overcome that lack of promotion I feel like their marketing has been off a bit since the UFC got bought and they fired all those people but I could be wrong
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i think the point of bringing up facebook was its free for them to post things there and they dont ev en do that
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he should threaten a deity
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:I feel like their marketing has been off a bit since the UFC got bought and they fired all those people but I could be wrong I think you are right, they are hitting a different tone in ads lately.
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Jun 5, 2017 17:56
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ufc should definitely guarantee his full purse if tj doesn't make weight but him asking for tj's purse as well is unreasonable
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Jun 5, 2017 17:58
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its a nonsense fight
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Jun 5, 2017 17:59
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Bundt Cake posted:its a nonsense fight it's inspired some real effort posting out of keven so it's already a big win for everyone
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Jun 5, 2017 18:01
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i wanna see that fight so bad
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MM is sort of right in most of his rant; but he doesn't draw enough to make PPV points. I also like Dana's tantrum and threatening to kill the whole division. Eat some more steak, lift more, and make 135 idiots, your division is gone.
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