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Are there many Australian or Australian military personal in Qatar? Because either KSA and their allies blockade continues and Qatar runs out of food, there is a coup or someone's going to start shooting in the local area. (edit, and shooting is ongoing right now in the Iranian Parliament, which is going to make them want to go to war against someone). Comstar fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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Comstar posted:Are there many Australian or Australian military personal in Qatar? Our troops are all next door in the UAE, apparently
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Jun 7, 2017 11:45
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There has to be some millionaires and expats living there, who are going to want an evacuation (if they aren't already doing it).
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Jun 7, 2017 11:49
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https://twitter.com/LucyXIV/status/872392171302690817
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Jun 7, 2017 12:24
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Well I hope the situation stablizes before my stopover in the UAE in September. We all have our problems, and it doesn't hurt to think about other people like me once in a while.
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Jun 7, 2017 12:25
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quote:Several recommendations for Yacqub Khayre to participate in deradicalisation programs were rejected or ignored by law enforcement agencies and government-funded community groups, despite repeated warnings he was a potential jihadist.
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Jun 7, 2017 22:20
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It's amazing how stupid our federal agencies are from the fallout of the Khayre killings. Yet it won't stop ASIO asking for more ways of destroying our privacy
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Jun 7, 2017 23:30
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You Am I posted:It's amazing how stupid our federal agencies are from the fallout of the Khayre killings. and billions of more moneys
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gay picnic defence posted:Laughable if it wasn't true. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...f0763d3a8dd3e90 quote:War on terror: Sydney police will be armed with military-style machineguns EXCLUSIVE Andrew Clennell, State Political Editor, The Daily Telegraph June 8, 2017 12:00am http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-08/victoria-calls-for-afp-airport-squads-to-prevent-terrorism/8599584 quote:Victoria calls for AFP airport squads, new security measures to prevent terrorism Updated 18 minutes ago In case people have forgotten parole is the most effective way of reintegrating people who have been incarcerated back into society. Society can compel them to attend re-education activities (etc) Oh wait! Funding has been cut and lol if you want to refer people there anyway. All this just pushes the actual elephant further towards the back of the room. How about not killing women and children in Arabic countries? Is that option seriously not on the table?
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Jun 8, 2017 02:04
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Andrews has to do some poo poo or he won't get reelected and we will end up with chucklefuck liberals again, so if he needs to do this poo poo to keep making other good policies and not gently caress up the state then whatever.
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Jun 8, 2017 02:07
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JBP posted:Andrews has to do some poo poo or he won't get reelected and we will end up with chucklefuck liberals again, so if he needs to do this poo poo to keep making other good policies and not gently caress up the state then whatever.
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Jun 8, 2017 02:53
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I'm sure the Herald Sun will give Andrews all the credit for being tough on crime and terrorism and won't simply talk about invisible African youth gangs roaming our streets.
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Jun 8, 2017 02:56
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JBP posted:Andrews has to do some poo poo or he won't get reelected and we will end up with chucklefuck liberals again, so if he needs to do this poo poo to keep making other good policies and not gently caress up the state then whatever.
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Jun 8, 2017 02:56
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Cartoon posted:What flavour is that Koolaid? Nice zinger, doe-eyed 10% of all voters poster Cartoon.
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Jun 8, 2017 02:57
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People are home scared because they're loving idiots and being perceived to not give a gently caress is dumb as hell politically.
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Jun 8, 2017 02:59
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"Mr Andrews what are you going to do given someone just did an ISIS in the city?" "I don't know, gently caress all I guess. Anyway, level crossings..."
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Jun 8, 2017 03:01
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"Stop being whingers you fucks, if he'd just been a junky it'd just be a tragic statistic."
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Jun 8, 2017 03:02
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It's not like he can so something and leave it at that. Whatever he does he'll be accused of not doing enough and the opposition will promise to do more.
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Daniel Andrews slams idea for Muslim youth 'safe places' for 'inflammatory' expression Daniel no... 
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Knorth posted:Daniel Andrews slams idea for Muslim youth 'safe places' for 'inflammatory' expression Are they getting their ideas from Ali G? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHD1N9vtPlE&t=30s
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He is at risk in the west because cretins are eating up the terrorism and law and order poo poo in addition to gentrification changing the voter landscape a little bit. Of course the opposition are going to say they'll do more (they're campaigning on public trasport LOL). The issue is you can't just turn around to the whole electorate and use special ability Visionary Leadership to make people stop buying into all the poo poo they're into. I spent 7 years in warehouses talking to working white people and I'm going to state it plainly, they are in general bad opinion havers of the highest order and they do not give a gently caress if that opinion is bad.
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Jun 8, 2017 03:07
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:"Stop being whingers you fucks, if he'd just been a junky it'd just be a tragic statistic." No it wouldn't it would be "why aren't you warring on drugs" and "why are meth heads invading beautiful Brighton".
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Jun 8, 2017 03:08
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JBP posted:"Mr Andrews what are you going to do given someone just did an ISIS in the city?" Clearly the anti terror theatre is doing little to protect citizens and we must not further encroach on our freedoms or intrude into the Australian way of life. It is folly to spend money on ineffective and counterproductive measures. I can assure the people of Victoria that their money will not be misspent in pointless window dressing." My fake clever D. Andrews is much more electable than your one, ALP stooge in a clown suit.
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JBP posted:No it wouldn't it would be "why aren't you warring on drugs" and "why are meth heads invading beautiful Brighton". "So much for the masculine right. Want a safe space?" I really think Labor needs to start just asserting their policies/opinions are correct regardless of whatever the right might say. The right do it. You just need to say it loudly enough.
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JBP posted:Andrews has to do some poo poo or he won't get reelected and we will end up with chucklefuck liberals again, so if he needs to do this poo poo to keep making other good policies and not gently caress up the state then whatever. i am loving this "tied hands" flavour of justification coming through
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Cartoon posted:"I'm glad you asked Joe! We are going to ensure that there are radicalisation programs in place and that all people who are likely to be radicalised by our callous and unsupportable actions in the Middle East are able to attend. In the case of people known to be at risk, where the state already has powers of coercion, then they will be channelled towards them and the effects monitored closely as part of ongoing correctional activities. But it must be stressed that without disengagement and steps towards reconciliation in the Middle East we can do little more than bandaid these wounds. Your guy just blamed Australia for terrorism and you think that is going to gel with swing voters. What the loving lol. If they want that speech they can vote for the Greens, that's fine and good for the country. The ones that are swinging left to right don't give a gently caress about anything in that fancily worded statement.
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JBP posted:Your guy just blamed Australia for terrorism and you think that is going to gel with swing voters. What the loving lol. If they want that speech they can vote for the Greens, that's fine and good for the country. The ones that are swinging left to right don't give a gently caress about anything in that fancily worded statement. Yeah let's never try to educate or inform discussion, don't include nuance or try to change the terms of a debate, just engage with the LNPs talking points whole cloth and then we'll win the discussion we've allowed them to frame somehow.
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Jun 8, 2017 03:22
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JBP posted:Your guy just blamed Australia for terrorism and you think that is going to gel with swing voters. What the loving lol. If they want that speech they can vote for the Greens, that's fine and good for the country. The ones that are swinging left to right don't give a gently caress about anything in that fancily worded statement. I mean, if you've been paying attention at all to the British election you should know getting this message across to a similar audience actually isn't that difficult.
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Yes, lets arm the riot squad with full automatic capable assault rifles with a range of 300 metres. This is a thing we need to counteract terrorism performed by a single or few individuals, in pedestrian heavy, confined spaces. What are they expecting, an armed insurrection? Uhh, the gun has assault in the name and the terrorists are assaulting us, so... Tough on terrorism???
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I don't really have a problem with the AFP being in airports considering a large part of the problem with 21st century security theatre is more and more powers being handed to incompetent border force-esque rentacops from actual police.quote:Mr Andrews says he is very concerned about their proposal and the council's state funding will be reviewed. D&D and auspol will be next ModernMajorGeneral fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:"So much for the masculine right. Want a safe space?" hooman posted:Yeah let's never try to educate or inform discussion, don't include nuance or try to change the terms of a debate, just engage with the LNPs talking points whole cloth and then we'll win the discussion we've allowed them to frame somehow. I think you all misunderstand that I am stating what happens in politics, not my ideological perspective. The ALP doesn't have a strong, noble approach to terrorism that isn't security and law and order. Their policy is watered down LNP policy. I don't even vote for the ALP. I could get in here and masturbate furiously over the purest ideology with the best, but then we would be in the same sphere as voters that doggedly pursue law and order issues or flip their wigs over terrorism. The plain and simple problem is that you want Labor economic policy for what that is worth these days, but you have to deal with the fact that the working voter base for the ALP is very interested in law and order/terrorism. The more this stuff happens both here and internationally, the more it speeds ALP voters who have welfare state hearts across to the LNP because they hate browns and fear spectres so viscerally that they submit to getting clowned on economically in exchange for a perception of security. This is a country that elects conservative governments far more often than it does progressive governments and I think you need to factor that into policy and public statements.
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JBP posted:I think you all misunderstand that I am stating what happens in politics, not my ideological perspective. The ALP doesn't have a strong, noble approach to terrorism that isn't security and law and order. Their policy is watered down LNP policy. I don't even vote for the ALP. But this lazy approach to convincing people is exactly why these people are never challenged to think of the problems another way. The ALP should actually come up with policy that attempts to fight the problem in a different way. Attacking the libs for only dealing with the surface problem and making the country less safe due to security theatre is exactly the way you convince people to change their mind. You reassure them the problem is being dealt with, just not in the same stupid loving way they'd like it.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I mean, if you've been paying attention at all to the British election you should know getting this message across to a similar audience actually isn't that difficult. The British election is being lost in the polls by an incompetent Tory candidate.
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JBP posted:The British election is being lost in the polls by an incompetent Tory candidate. Three terrorist attacks while Jam-man 'Actually this is blowback for imperialist wars in the middle east' Corbyn rose steadily in the polls. 75% of Britons agreed with him that wars in the ME increased the risk of terror, while the press were wanking over how awful the stance would be for him in the polls.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:But this lazy approach to convincing people is exactly why these people are never challenged to think of the problems another way. The ALP should actually come up with policy that attempts to fight the problem in a different way. They are frequently challenged in the media but frightened people are hard to turn, especially when they turn the fear into fury at an other. I don't think the ALP is particularly interested in spending one or more election cycles educating people on a better way to defeat terrorism because parliamentary democracy is a reactionary garbage fire.
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Tokamak posted:Yes, lets arm the riot squad with full automatic capable assault rifles with a range of 300 metres. This is a thing we need to counteract terrorism performed by a single or few individuals, in pedestrian heavy, confined spaces. What are they expecting, an armed insurrection? I'd argue that maybe they wont buy the select fire models and stick to semi auto only M4s, but government officials have done so much stupid poo poo recently of course they'll go select fire to protect us from 900 terrorists per minute. Wasn't one of the fatalities from the Lindt siege caused by fragments from 5.56mm FMJ rounds that shattered on hitting the walls?
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Paingod556 posted:I'd argue that maybe they wont buy the select fire models and stick to semi auto only M4s, but government officials have done so much stupid poo poo recently of course they'll go select fire to protect us from 900 terrorists per minute. I thought they straight up shot a hostage. WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Three terrorist attacks while Jam-man 'Actually this is blowback for imperialist wars in the middle east' Corbyn rose steadily in the polls. 75% of Britons agreed with him that wars in the ME increased the risk of terror, while the press were wanking over how awful the stance would be for him in the polls. They still poll at 70% to reduce immigration though. The problem is fear of terrorism (which isn't reduced by naming the culprit although it does help) and racism.
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JBP posted:They are frequently challenged in the media but frightened people are hard to turn, especially when they turn the fear into fury at an other. I don't think the ALP is particularly interested in spending one or more election cycles educating people on a better way to defeat terrorism because parliamentary democracy is a reactionary garbage fire. The problem with this is that people then never get educated and everyone slides further into knee jerk reactionism and we get theater instead of good policy. I don't know what the solution to parliamentary garbage fire is though. Probably strong institutions but har har har, efficiency dividended to death. JBP posted:I thought they straight up shot a hostage. It was a bullet fragment but I think the cause of death was ruled as heart attack.
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