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Jun 20, 2008

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I would blow Dane Cook posted:

How do you renounce your feminism, is there a form?
Actually it's a dick you have to suck.

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Jun 20, 2008

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So it's not just satire that's dead now.

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Jun 20, 2008

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gay picnic defence posted:

Laughable if it wasn't true.
And yet the solution, apparently, is to give Police SLRs

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...f0763d3a8dd3e90

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War on terror: Sydney police will be armed with military-style machineguns EXCLUSIVE Andrew Clennell, State Political Editor, The Daily Telegraph June 8, 2017 12:00am

POLICE officers patrolling Sydney’s streets will soon be armed with military-style machineguns.

M4 Colt Carbine weapons, which are used by the US military, will be handed to 100 riot squad officers for use in case of terror attacks. The Daily Telegraph understands an announcement will be made today on the provision of these longarm weapons and the need for shoot-to-kill legislation for police when the initial government response to the Coroner’s report on the Lindt cafe siege goes to cabinet. Police have recommended to Premier Gladys Berejiklian and Police Minister Troy Grant that 100 officers from the Public Order and Riot Squad be given access to the Colt M4 Carbine rifle. Police Commissioner Mick Fuller is calling for frontline cops to be heavily armed as soon as possible in the wake of a wave of attacks in Europe, most recently in London, and is pushing the government to act. It is understood police have recommended to Premier Gladys Berejiklian and Police Minister Troy Grant that 100 officers from the Public Order and Riot Squad be given access to the guns.
Yes more police armed with more powerful guns is entirely the message that the coroner was making in the Lindt inquiry report. I mean you just don't get quality unintended bystander kill shots with low powered weapons and we really don't want innocent members of the public to suffer. But why stop there? Thread darling Daniel Andrews wants to go full Ministry of Love:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-08/victoria-calls-for-afp-airport-squads-to-prevent-terrorism/8599584

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Victoria calls for AFP airport squads, new security measures to prevent terrorism Updated 18 minutes ago

Victoria will push the Commonwealth to introduce new security measures, including a permanent 24-hour specialist federal police squad based in airports, to respond to potential terrorism threats. Premier Daniel Andrews said the Victorian Government would use the Council of Australian Governments (COAG) meeting in Hobart on Friday to lobby for measures including:

the Australian Federal Police (AFP) providing 24-hour tactical support to help authorities respond to threats at airports
giving the state greater access to telecommunications technology, and the power to disable mobile phone networks during major events
better access to defence facilities for training

"We live in uncertain times," Mr Andrews said. "The Tullamarine Airport, the Avalon Airport, these are federal assets and I think the time has come for us to have a dedicated 24-7 tactical response. "When you think about across the world, airports have so often been the target. We need to take that next step." Mr Andrews said giving states the power to disable a mobile phone network to provide one source of information could avoid possible crowd crushes at large public events.
"There are ways in which we can disable the mobile phone network and then provide one point of information — perhaps at a sporting venue on the large electronic scoreboard — that guides people on how to evacuate, guides people on how to avoid stampedes, crushes, those sorts of things. "A very tight geographical space can be isolated and then you can use one stream of communication rather than many thousands to coordinate and direct in the interests of safety," he said. "That capability, that technology is available now."

Yesterday, Mr Andrews said he would also be pushing for the AFP and ASIO to be more involved in decisions about granting parole to criminals on a terror watch list. Police Minister Lisa Neville said she expected support from other states. "We're going to COAG with every intention to maximise and improve the counter-terrorism response across the country and work very closely with the Commonwealth on the ground," she said.

In case people have forgotten parole is the most effective way of reintegrating people who have been incarcerated back into society. Society can compel them to attend re-education activities (etc) Oh wait! Funding has been cut and lol if you want to refer people there anyway.

All this just pushes the actual elephant further towards the back of the room. How about not killing women and children in Arabic countries? Is that option seriously not on the table?

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Jun 20, 2008

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JBP posted:

Andrews has to do some poo poo or he won't get reelected and we will end up with chucklefuck liberals again, so if he needs to do this poo poo to keep making other good policies and not gently caress up the state then whatever.
What flavour is that Koolaid?

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Jun 20, 2008

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JBP posted:

"Mr Andrews what are you going to do given someone just did an ISIS in the city?"

"I don't know, gently caress all I guess. Anyway, level crossings..."
"I'm glad you asked Joe! We are going to ensure that there are radicalisation programs in place and that all people who are likely to be radicalised by our callous and unsupportable actions in the Middle East are able to attend. In the case of people known to be at risk, where the state already has powers of coercion, then they will be channelled towards them and the effects monitored closely as part of ongoing correctional activities. But it must be stressed that without disengagement and steps towards reconciliation in the Middle East we can do little more than bandaid these wounds.

Clearly the anti terror theatre is doing little to protect citizens and we must not further encroach on our freedoms or intrude into the Australian way of life. It is folly to spend money on ineffective and counterproductive measures. I can assure the people of Victoria that their money will not be misspent in pointless window dressing."

My fake clever D. Andrews is much more electable than your one, ALP stooge in a clown suit.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Paingod556 posted:

Wasn't one of the fatalities from the Lindt siege caused by fragments from 5.56mm FMJ rounds that shattered on hitting the walls?
Hence my sarcastic "I mean you just don't get quality unintended bystander kill shots with low powered weapons and we really don't want innocent members of the public to suffer."

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Jun 20, 2008

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ewe2 posted:

Laura Tingle fires up in the AFR:


TL;DR poo poo's hosed up
And on the Chinese angle:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/donations-row-engulfs-turnbulls-team/news-story/870e21ad2c885cbaaa065e024129cf05

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Donations row engulfs Turnbull’s team The Australian12:00AM June 9, 2017 SIMON BENSON National Political EditorSydney

A senior member of Malcolm Turnbull’s campaign team had ­directly solicited a political ­donation prior to last year’s election campaign from Chinese-born Australian billionaire Chau Chak Wing, who is now at the centre of a political storm over foreign ­donations and political ­influence. The Australian has also confirmed that Labor Party officials at both state and federal branch levels were even more vigorous in their approaches to Dr Chau in seeking donations for last year’s election campaign. Dr Chau, an Australian citizen of 20 years, hit back at suggestions he was a puppet of China’s Communist Party, telling The Aus­tralian that many of the donations he had made to both side of ­politics were in response to ­approaches from political party officials. This has been backed up by senior officials from both major parties, who have admitted they saw Dr Chau as a cash cow for their election campaigns.

Election donation returns show that in the 12 months prior to last year’s election, Dr Chau donated more than $800,000 to both ­parties following approaches for financial support. The Australian understands that ASIO has issued updated warnings to political officials over its concerns about China’s “soft power” influence in Australia as recently as the past month. Bill Shorten this week tried to distance Labor from Dr Chau, claiming: “We (the Labor Party) don’t want these individuals’ or associates’ money. I do not want these two individuals who were named on Four Corners to be making donations to the Labor Party, and I have made it clear, before last night, that I don’t want our party accepting donations from these people.”

An ABC Four Corners report on Monday named Dr Chau in an attempt to make links between foreign donations and political influence. Former prime minister John Howard in 2015 described Dr Chau as being crucial in securing a key LNG deal with China. Dr Chau said in a statement to The Australian: “These reports, and the subsequent political re­action they have triggered, have caused great distress and dis­appointment to me and my family. All of my political donations, which in some cases resulted from a direct approach by the major parties, have been made and declared strictly in accordance with Australian electoral laws. They have also been made with complete transparency through businesses I am clearly identified with. “At no time have I sought to, or seen any reason to, use an elaborate corporate structure to mask a donation to a political party. Further, I have never sought or received any personal or commercial benefit in connection to a political donation. The most distressing alle­gation of recent days is that I am somehow acting as a conduit of information for the Chinese Communist Party, which risks jeopardising Australia’s sovereignty. For clarity, I am not and have never been a member of the Chinese Communist Party, and I completely reject the suggestion I have acted in any way on behalf of, or under instruction from, that ­entity.”

A senior Liberal organisational official confirmed the party had approached the family of Dr Chau, who bought James Packer’s Vaucluse mansion in Sydney’s east for $70 million in 2015, before the election asking to donate to the 2016 campaign. “He was a longstanding donor, and an Australian citizen,” the official said. The official also defended Dr Chau, claiming there had never been evidence he was linked to the Communist Party or had sought to bear influence, despite an ASIO warning about Chinese political donors. “He never asked for anything,” the ­Liberal Party official said. “All he was interested in was good relations between Australia and China.” Labor and Liberal Party officials were warned by ASIO in 2015 about taking donations from foreign Chinese entities and companies alleged to have links back to the Communist Party.

However, Dr Chau, as an Australian citizen and proprietor of several Australian businesses, is not a foreign political donor.

He is pursuing a defamation case against a former Fairfax journalist who joined Mr Turnbull’s office in 2015. “I am immensely grateful for all of the opportunities living and working in such a wonderful country have provided me and my family, and I have sought to repay that gratitude by investing in education, cultural and health projects that will provide broad benefit,” he said. A senior Labor source confirmed party officials had regularly asked Dr Chau for donations: “Of course we did. We got greedy.”
Man gives millions to both political parties for "Improved China Australia relations" :jerkbag: :itwaspoo:

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Jun 20, 2008

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Bogan King posted:

Sinn Fein are saying that DUP / Tory alliance breaks Good Friday agreement. I wonder if we can convince the IRA to bomb Abbott too.
I was wondering about this too. It would completely vindicate any views that terrorism is actually being deliberately fostered by the right wing.

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Jun 20, 2008

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GoldStandardConure posted:

no, progress is a competitive mtg and 40k scene
Define "Competitive".

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Jun 20, 2008

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It's like triple J's unearthed only poo poo:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4596400/Australia-s-dole-bludger-suburbs-revealed.html

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Revealed: Australia's top 10 dole bludger suburbs where welfare recipients are slacking off the most By Jacob Polychronis For Daily Mail Australia PUBLISHED: 01:49 +10:00, 13 June 2017 | UPDATED: 10:10 +10:00, 13 June 2017

New figures have revealed Australia's top 10 dole bludging suburbs Blacktown has the highest figure in New South Wales and second nationwide. On top was Caboolture, north of Brisbane, while Victoria had five in the top ten. A total of 28,150 people in NSW in the past were found to be dole bludgers

Australia's top 10 dole bludger hotspots have been revealed, with Caboolture in Queensland coming first and Blacktown in Sydney's west second in the national list. New figures show the amount of welfare recipients who have consistently failed to turn up to jobseeker interviews or work-for-the-dole appointments in the past year. Residents in Blacktown are the second least likely to meet the requirements of their welfare conditions, with 333 people failing to turn up to five or more appointments, The Daily Telegraph reported.

Top of the nationwide list was Caboolture, north of Brisbane, with 387 dole bludgers while Victoria took up five places in the top 10. Mildura, in north-west Victoria, had the third-highest figure of dole bludgers with 329 failing to turn up to five or more appointments, followed by Frankston - in Melbourne's south-east - and Deception Bay, north of Brisbane.

AUSTRALIA'S TOP TEN BLUDGER HOTSPOTS

1. Caboolture, Queensland

2. Blacktown, New South Wales

3. Mildura, Victoria

4. Frankston, Victoria

5. Deception Bay, Queensland

6. Werribee, Victoria

7. St Albans, Victoria

8. Dubbo, New South Wales

9. Auburn, New South Wales

10. Dandenong, Victoria

A total of 2,241 people in the top 10 and more than 28,150 in NSW failed to turn up to five or more Centrelink appointments or job interviews in the past year, the newspaper reported. Human Services Minister Alan Tudge denied the government was 'embarrassing' suburbs by publishing the list. 'This is not embarrassing the suburbs. This is simply pointing out where the numbers lie. Unfortunately, there are hotspots in this country,' he told the Nine Network on Tuesday. Mr Tudge said the results show why the government's proposal for a demerit point system is needed. Those who rack up four demerit points will then enter the 'three strikes' territory and face climbing penalties, including losing half their fortnightly payment for their first strike without a reasonable excuse. 'There are clearly suburbs in Australia where there is a concentration of people consistently missing appointments and job interviews and have no excuse for doing so,' he told The Daily Telegraph. 'The majority are men under 30 who should be doing everything they can to get work.'

Nationals MP Andrew Broad, whose Victorian electorate includes Mildura - which has the state's highest rate of welfare non-compliance - says there are job opportunities in his region. 'If you are receiving an unemployment benefit in Mildura we expect you to have a mutual obligation to be giving back and to go from being an unemployed person to being a job seeker,' Mr Broad told reporters in Canberra. 'We do have a job for you.' Australians expect those receiving benefits to be compliant with the rules, he said.
Let's unpick that a bit:

http://caboolture.localstats.com.au/demographics/qld/brisbane/outer-northern-suburbs/caboolture

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n the 2011 census the population of Caboolture was 21,929

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Caboolture has an unemployment rate of 10.3%.

= 2260 unemployed. So this 'hot spot is a tiny proportion of the unemployed AND given the level of screwing up that the JSPs do especially regarding 'appointments' a high proportion are likely to be spurious in any case. :jerkbag:

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In amazing schadenfreude news (from Britain) :-

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-09/may-eyes-deal-with-irish-party-in-bid-to-cling-to-power/8605222

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-10/uk-election-democratic-unionist-party-dup-brexit-explained/8606954

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What does this mean for Brexit?

The party is now led by former-lawyer and unionist Arlene Foster.

Ms Foster has previously said "no-one wants to see a hard Brexit" and has spoken about the need to avoid a hard border with the Republic of Ireland.

"What we want to see is a workable plan to leave the European Union, and that's what the national [referendum] vote was about it — therefore we need to get on with that," she said in an interview with Sky News.

"No-one wants to see a hard border, Sinn Fein [the opposing party in Northern Ireland] talk about it a lot, but nobody wants a hard border."

So following the monumentally stupid Brexit referendum fate has handed May a government that will make leaving the EEU complex at best and more likely impossible. The Torys in the UK are an example to us all (of one sort or another).

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Jun 20, 2008

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Anidav posted:

Spirited Andrew Bolt puts his attackers to shame

So, I made a mistake. You could even say I was wr… wro… less right than usual.

A couple of weeks ago, amused by the Nazi punching meme, I wrote what I hoped would be an amusing column unpacking that particular clown circus. In the end I came down on the side of not punching anyone, but I had so much fun relaying the arguments in favour of getting punchy that I probably didn't make myself clear. So I'll try again: Physically attacking anybody for any reason other than unavoidable defence against a clear and present danger is a douche move.

What about less violent physical confrontations.

Like glitter bombing reactionary trollumnist Andrew Bolt?


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So, I made a mistake. You could even say I was wr… wro… less right than usual.

A couple of weeks ago, amused by the Nazi punching meme, I wrote what I hoped would be an amusing column unpacking that particular clown circus. In the end I came down on the side of not punching anyone, but I had so much fun relaying the arguments in favour of getting punchy that I probably didn't make myself clear. So I'll try again: Physically attacking anybody for any reason other than unavoidable defence against a clear and present danger is a douche move.

What about less violent physical confrontations.

Like glitter bombing reactionary trollumnist Andrew Bolt?

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Bolt assault: Photographer says he is not connected to any political groups

Still a douche move.

And shooting video of your sad little glitter bomb attack for a little viral release after the fact? A moronic douche move of such life-threatening stupidity that you would probably die of stupidity even in a carefully controlled ecosystem designed to foster hand-raised idiots for release into the wild. An environment, say, not unlike the comment thread of an Andrew Bolt blog.

Yes. That's right.

If you are dumb enough to physically attack Andrew Bolt, even with glitter and shaving cream, you are probably so stupid that natural selection couldn't find a niche for you in an environment of perfect stupidity.

Seriously, what were those guys thinking last week? The ones who not only attacked Bolt from behind but apparently did so on camera?

The first thing they were thinking, like anybody who raises a hand against anyone else, is that they were going to win. They were going to get away with it. 

But that didn't work out so well did it?

I'll give the Bolter this if nothing else, he has a brawler's instincts and a fighter's spirit. He was attacked, without warning, from behind, and his natural reaction was two-fisted. Most people would just freeze. There was nothing polished about his defence. It was a wild melee of a thing, with no footwork and dangerously poor target selection. I think he might have punched a pole at one point. But unlike the arse clowns who ambushed him, he was up for it. The first sign of any push back and those heroes, all three of them, went to water.

They looked like cowards and fools. The only harm they did to Bolt was to ruin his suit, which he's now auctioned off for charity. 

The harm they did to the arguments and standing of everyone who disagrees with his vile and frequently dangerous opinions was immeasurable.

Nice work, fellas. 
Edit your poo poo Brisbane boy.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Why not just have the ISPs provide transcripts of all communication. It is at least as dumb as what Trampballs is proposing and as likely to work in the actual world of IT. For example: Apple can't decrypt users imessages so it doesn't matter how much you hold your breath and go blue asking them to do it for you they actually can not. I suppose it's the thought that counts.

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Jun 20, 2008

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open24hours posted:

Complain to Centrelink directly and mention the forklift etc.
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Jun 20, 2008

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Comstar posted:

THREE Federal Ministers to be hauled in front of Supreme Court

I am sure nothing will happen to them, beyond maybe a small "Don't do that" message.
Even less. The 'ministers' didn't even bother to attend and the provisions on contempt have (like 18C/D) explicit exclusions for fair criticism of the court. Makes me wonder why the Vic Supreme court bothered. In the old days (1970's) this would have been seen as a major scandal and all three ministers would have resigned. If it was the ALP it would be banner headlines for weeks and a never ending barrage of accusations of treason. The arch cynic in me thinks it has all been a media spotlight opportunity for the tough on terror three. The thing I hate most about it is that it continues to feed into a cultured ignorance in the populous about what exactly parole is meant to achieve.

Also (and I know I am going to regret this) Hobo Erotica it is (yet another) an example of kicking down, not up. If a fat person commentates on their difficulties in society it is completely different to a thin/average weight person complaining about the difficulties of having a fat person around. As a journalist the nuance of this should be constantly on their mind when making copy. It is a fine line between empathy and advocacy to outright fat shaming.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Hobo Erotica posted:

Anyway I'm just trying to understand the hate and nothing has really stood up so far,
There was a time before when an argument had pros and cons. In the online environment you have: Making a spectacle of yourself (content provider)[A] or denouncing other posters [B]. There are no other tenable positions. Defending ANYTHING just makes you a target of [B] as you have actually become an [A]. In your example the original subject was an [A] and, your now being attacked person, was a somewhat unwitting [B] that, by doing so, became an [A] and is now being target by a gaggle of [B]s. There is an enormous amount of other people who are somewhere in the middle but couldn't be bothered getting into what is essentially monkeys throwing faeces.

tl;dr Haters make big noises on the internet. Non-haters make none.

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Jun 20, 2008

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HookShot posted:

I'm basically pizza Jesus.
So full of poo poo then.

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Jun 20, 2008

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HookShot posted:

And there are no vegan options!
Devil's don't count as meat. Checkmate Jezzas

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Jun 20, 2008

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Starshark posted:

I'm sorry that priests repeatedly raped you and this was covered up by the Church. Have you thought about letting God into your heart?
No? What about your arse then?

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Jun 20, 2008

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Mordialloc posted:

Hi folks,

Following from the discussion a couple of days ago about employment service providers, I'm looking to employ someone in a month or so on a casual basis in my business but I don't want to use a provider that is shady/fucks job seekers. Are there any good/decent/not blood sucking ones?

About the job: Handyman work in Canberra, 2-3 days a week.
Advertise in the local free paper. It's how I get all my staff.

Hobo Erotica posted:

I get the joke and all but you can see how juvenile this is, right?

So is there any debate or discussion in D&D these days? Or the public shaming of women with opinions is fine even if the reasons don't really hold up to the slightest scrutiny and lol if you actually give them any scrutiny?
Not up to your usual standards for a meltdown 2/5.

Here have this: http://www.thedrum.com/news/2017/06/15/new-zealand-human-rights-commission-mocks-celebrity-appeal-ads-anti-racism-film

Remember when our Human Rights Commission actually did poo poo about Human Rights?

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Jun 20, 2008

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What does everyone think of the Red Simmons fiasco the past couple days?

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Jun 20, 2008

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Recoome posted:

I'm surprised that people are surprised
I was surprised by how vicious and personal the reaction was and curious to see if it was echoed here

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Jun 20, 2008

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do it on my face posted:

If Red had been talking to Mia, maybe.
No you don't it was all over SMH and pedestrian and ABC and facebook and I think even some international press

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Jun 20, 2008

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Recoome posted:

Like old irrelevant guy has extremely poo poo opinions in hot take shocker
See I don't get this. Listening to the show pretty regularly I'd say the exact opposite. Have you got any examples?

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Jun 20, 2008

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Recoome posted:

I guess I don't have any specific examples, but I guess we know now that Red Whatisname has bad opinions on ethnicity?
Not really (maybe a bit figjam but hey), a bit, and kind of

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And now we have gone meta and I'm out.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3822492&userid=114399

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Jun 20, 2008

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Hobo Erotica posted:

Citation loving needed you mansplaining buffoon
So being a Neoliberal is suddenly OK?

Cartoon fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Jun 17, 2017

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Jun 20, 2008

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Anidav posted:

I am in Beijing and the air is killing me holy poo poo how do people live here every breath has the thickness of 20 cigarettes and everyone coughs like crazy.
Racist.

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Jun 20, 2008

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QUACKTASTIC posted:



Had to take time off work due to allergies



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-16/ministers-retract-some-comments-critical-of-victorian-judiciary/8625040

I almost truly deeply regret... But that's OK because:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/06/18/09/37/victoria-looks-to-trump-up-terror-laws

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12:10pm June 18, 2017 Vic moves to limit potential terrorists

Victorians who have never been charged with any crimes could have their rights restricted if they are deemed a potential terror risk under a legal crackdown.:rolleyes:

A expert panel led by former Chief Commissioner Ken Lay, and former Supreme Court of Appeal Justice David Harper will review the laws currently available to prevent, investigate, monitor and respond to acts of terror. In announcing the review, Premier Daniel Andrews said "nothing is off the table" and it could include curfews and GPS tracking people who have not even been charged. Mr Andrews admitted some of the moves would not be "popular". :jerkbag: "If kerbing the rights of a small number of people is what's required to keep Victorians safe then I won't hesitate to do it," Mr Andrews told reporters.

The panel will look at what can be done during all stages of the justice system - including pre-charge, pre-sentence, during sentence and post-sentence measures. It will also provide advice on removing any barriers to Victoria Police in responding to terrorist acts.
Thread darling and actual authoritarian garbage fire Daniel Andrews.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Bogan King posted:

What on Earth could the Greens be doing that is so attractive to boomer tories?
:2bong: :420:

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Jun 20, 2008

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Zenithe posted:

I've been wrong before, but can it get much lower than this?


The cladding was illegal to install at the time of the installation. Those wicked greens!

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Jun 20, 2008

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Sometimes I look kindly upon our mods and masters.

Bogan King posted:

Apparently the mosque stopped being hardline back in 2005 too. So not only have they got the wrong mosque but the mosque they're saying is a problem hasn't been that way for over a decade. Basically what I'm saying is that they're lying to further radicalise the racists and should therefore be in prison.
I'm still waiting for Carwyn Jones to make a statement denouncing Welsh terrorists.

Meanwhile back in Australia :australia:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-20/david-lee-blind-musician-facing-deportation-to-malaysia/8633474

We will choose to be shitful and the manner of our shitfulness.

But why stop at the blind when there are filthy blacks that need kicking, for no apparent reason?

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2016/s4687879.htm?site=indigenous&topic=latest

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NICK GRIMM: Ten years ago this week, one of the defining moments in Australian national life began unfolding in remote communities in the outback.

The Northern Territory intervention was launched by the then Howard government in response to reports of social dysfunction and allegations of endemic abuse of women and children in remote communities.

Since then, the policy has continued under governments of both persuasions.

But 10 years on critics of the Intervention say it's fixed nothing.

Pat Turner is currently CEO of the National Aboriginal Community Controlled Health Organisation.

She was previously a CEO of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission, ATSIC, and had a long career as a senior Commonwealth public servant.

I spoke to Pat Turner a little earlier.

Pat Turner, can I start by asking you this: Ten years on, what's the best thing you have to say about the Northern Territory Intervention?

PAT TURNER: (Laughs) Nothing, really, I'm afraid.

It was a complete violation of the human rights of Aboriginal people in the Northern Territory.

It came out of the blue, following the Commonwealth Government's reading and response to The Little Children Are Sacred report.

NICK GRIMM: So how would you describe the legacy of the process that began 10 years ago?

PAT TURNER: Well, I think it's still a shambles.

You know, both sides of politics were responsible.

While it was introduced by the Liberal government, the Coalition under John Howard and Mal Brough, it was carried on also by Jenny Macklin and Kevin Rudd and Gillard and so on.

So the legacy is that Aboriginal people were completely disempowered.

They had the Army going into communities in their uniforms. They had no idea why the Army was there.

You know, to send the Army in at a time like that was just totally confusing. People were terrified that they'd come to take the kids away. There would be no explanation as to why they were going in.

And it wasn't their fault; it was the way the Government handled it.

The government also, at the time, insisted that every child under 16 have a full medical check. Now, actually what they were looking for, I think, was whether a child had been sexually abused.

And we said, at the time, those of us who were opposed to the way the Government was handling this, "You cannot do that without parental permission. You must have parental permission. You would not do a medical check on any other child in Australia and you should not do that with our children without their parents' say-so".

And what's more, fine, go ahead, do a full medical check, but what are you going to do when you find the otitis media, when you find the trachoma, when you find the upper respiratory diseases, when you find rheumatic heart disease? Where…
Bold it all (etc.) Oh and there's more that's just an excerpt. Didn't want to get anyone too upset.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

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Anidav posted:

Sorry for doxxing Cartoon ad BCR
Like I'd drink whiskey :scoff:

JBP posted:

So we nationalised your pastime and turned it into a house for refugees, please accept these complimentary tickets to a commune production of "Waiting for Godot" as compensation.
Is there some sort of a problem with any of this?

To actual stupidity:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-21/government-may-have-set-itself-up-to-fail-with-this-budget/8636216

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But by arguing the budget is one that eases the cost of living for families, has the Government over-egged its sales pitch and set itself up to fail its own test?

It did not take long for the obvious questions to fly thick and fast at the Treasurer's media conference. What was the Government doing to help households pay for sky-rocketing electricity bills or the climbing cost of driving on Sydney's motorways? What hope did it offer renters in one of the most unaffordable cities in the world? A thin film of sweat began to gather on the Treasurer's lip as he tried to steer the media pack back to the stellar state of the economy and what it meant more broadly for families. "We don't run surpluses for the sake of it," Mr Perrottet said. "We run surpluses so we can invest those funds in the things that matter most to people's lives — better healthcare, better education and better public transport." The billions of dollars in the budget for new schools and hospitals will no doubt make a huge difference to the everyday lives of families. It should be an excellent selling point for the Government in the home stretch to the 2019 election. But by trying to market this budget as one that eases the cost of living, the Government has scored an own goal.

The obscene surplus was only achieved by an aggressive and stupid privatisation campaign. To compare it to a household budget: We can now afford to rent for a few years because we sold our house. These clowns are painfully and aggressively stupid. I guess I know where pubbie WoT players come from.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

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MonoAus posted:

What
the
gently caress
Didn't you get the PHON is another nazi party memo? It got sent to everybody's house by the PHON no less.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

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JBP posted:

what if you kill literally everybody
We could at least do some modelling.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

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DancingShade posted:

I feel like you should do a teaching degree then take a high school class in a low socio economic area then report back with your findings.
Challenge excepted. Is it OK that I did all the qualification stuff before you asked? I especially focus on the special needs kids. One time I only found out the fifteen year old couldn't read because I devoted enough one on one time. Let's be brutally frank: The HSC isn't all that loving hard. If you are bright and apply yourself you'll do well despite the attention of any number of teachers. These are the students that are being put forward as the ones being disadvantaged by being disrupted by the less able. Even that part of the premise is bullshit. What is really really hosed up is the mental process that divides society into worthy/not worthy. gently caress That Noise. Seriously that is the asperational John Galt bootstraps bullshit that sees the gap between rich and poor get wider every day. You know like what's happening here in Australia.

So Dancing Shade take your completely refuted bullshit somewhere else.

Completely refuted.

You made the challenge these are the results. Sorry that they make you look like a jerk.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

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DancingShade posted:

I have to now ask, is Anidav an alt account of yours?
Not possible. I've actually been seen at a Goon meet.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-21/pauline-hanson-under-fire-repulsive-bigoted-comments-autism/8640328

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No evidence to support Senator Hanson's claims, disability advocate says

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No evidence to support Senator Hanson's claims, disability advocate says


:siren:

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No evidence to support Senator Hanson's claims, disability advocate says
:siren:

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What do the experts think?

Let's hear what education expert Shiralee Poed from The University of Melbourne thinks about Senator Pauline Hanson's comments. Typically what we find is children with disabilities in mainstream classrooms are supported by teacher assistants. What we found is there's actually benefits to the other children in the room, where they go over concepts that perhaps they have missed so kids without disabilities have benefits from having children's with disabilities in the rooms. They have higher outcomes of literacy and numeracy because of the children in the room.

Yep I'm sure the one full of poo poo here.

gently caress you Milky Moor you smegma filled collostomy bag reject. And take Dancing Shade with you on your trip to the aerobic trench. Fascist apologists. Agreeing with Pauline Hanson should at least trigger something in that atrophied organ in your head that you are in need of a trip to the room of mirrors.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

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Milky Moor posted:

This just in, Cartoon falls into the 44% of people who can't read. Tragic.

Point to where I agreed with her. Quote the part of my post.
You said I was full of poo poo for disagreeing with her.... So.

Milky Moor posted:

You say a lot of poo poo, Cartoon, but this might just take the cake.
If you can't make your case more clearly than a blanket ad hominem (including this recent follow up) then I wouldn't start impuning other people's educational standards. But please keep on taking shots you dumb muppet.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

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Milky Moor posted:

Man who says secondary school exams<snip>
Back pedal harder! Only 40 075 km to go.

Also keep digging the ad homenin holes, they never fail to win arguments.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

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Futuresight posted:

Here's a summary for those of you unable to keep up:

- Cartoon said that bright students who apply themselves don't need teachers that much because the HSC is easy for them if they just apply themselves so Hanson's comment is full of poo poo.

Well if you include the context that someone (Dancing Shade) was having an arguement from authority jab at Anidav for saying:

Anidav posted:

Yeah I mean it's part of the ticket, you cannot exclude children from your learning environment because they make your job harder.

DancingShade posted:

I feel like you should do a teaching degree then take a high school class in a low socio economic area then report back with your findings.

Now while Dancing shade didn't actually say I support Pauline Hanson and the Nazi theory of Eugenics that was the subject being discussed. As their 'challenge' was complete bullshit I called them on it. Subsequent expert evidence supports my anecdote.

Milky decided to have some ill considered shot of jizz in my general direction, and missed horribly, only retroactively explaining their context in the hopes it wouldn't make them look like a gently caress wit.

But please continue with your revisionist history.

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Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

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JBP posted:

Hello I have come to post the no name blogs that agree with my bad opinions.
Important detail JBP this is HE doing the no name blogging. Excuse me while I go and write my citation for this post.

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