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spite house
Apr 28, 2009

*checking big bill with counterfeit pen*
:haw: "I just printed that this morning!"

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spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Starman Super DX posted:

As a general rule I'm not big on overly friendly people in non-social situations. It's just me, you can call me bitter or salty or whatever you like but I just don't get strangers who excitedly shout "hi howzit going!?" at you like you're old friends that haven't seen each other. Like I've got customers that I build a report with because they were super chill and acted normal, but this expectation that all retail workers are your best friends who want to hear your life story is utterly beyond me.
Spending money on consumer goods is supposed to make us happy/define us as people/dictate our cultural allegiances etc etc etc, so if the service worker isn't pretending to be our best friend at all times the experience will not be adequately fulfilling.

At least that's the assumption made and perpetuated by the retail gods, aka the same people who make decisions like mandating how many hours are assigned based on the numbers the store did at the same time last year and thinking it's a real good idea to have off-shift employees run deliveries on their way home, aka the borderline retarded nephews of someone important who have never set foot behind a cash register in their lives.

So, capitalism as usual.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Called the customer service line for a semi-luxury retailer this morning because I thought my order had been hosed up. It turned out that the error was my fault, but the rep was clearly bracing for a screeching entitlement explosion anyway. I apologized for being That Customer and wasting her time, and I thought glitter and rainbows were about to come pouring out of my phone. Khadijah, Nordstrom call center worker in Virginia, whatever you're getting paid it's not enough.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

new phone who dis posted:

I worked in a pretty affluent area when I slung coffee for Starbucks and the housewives were by far the worst. Say what you will about rich white dudes and the patriarchy, almost all of the doctors, lawyers, Admirals, etc. that I waited on were friendly and good tippers. By contrast, their wives were horrible ogres.
Boomer white women are indeed the absolute loving worst. I've been out of retail for years and I'm still actively bigoted against that whole demographic.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Ralph Hurley posted:

Sorry sir, that's just store policy.
People try to steal poo poo every day and no we don't trust you at all.
I'll get the manager if you like. :o:
Not going to weigh in on the morals of bag check policy because that's a discussion so annoying it rivals arguments about receipt checks and tipping, but I will say that I once worked at a store with a bag check and it seriously put the kibosh on the widespread idea that light-fingered employees are responsible for most theft. Our shrink was consistently under 2%.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Starman Super DX posted:

What is it with these ridiculous sounding post-millennial names? Like, "Gavin" and "Xandir" and "Braedan". I'm sure I've heard some others too
Gavin is a real, old-school name, albeit one that's just asking for a swirlie, but 100% of "creative" white people names sound really stupid when shouted in public. "BRINDLEY. BRINDLEY, YOU ARE NOT MAKING GOOD CHOICES RIGHT NOW. BRINDLEY GET BACK HERE." I learned this working bourgie specialty retail.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

CaptainBtaksDad posted:

I learned a lot of invaluable skills as a teenager working retail. How to deal with people, be professional, etc. Some days were hard but that's because I was 16.
Nowadays I can clock people who have never worked in the service industry at a hundred paces and even though I'm not in the service industry anymore I still won't work with them if I have any choice about it at all. I just passed on putting someone in the way of a position he's otherwise perfect for, because he's incapable of dealing with people if the situation isn't completely to his liking and he thinks Customer Service Face is inauthentic and disingenuous. He had one retail job in his twenties, from which he got fired in under a month. His work is otherwise excellent, but sorry bruh, no cushy gig for you.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Starman Super DX posted:

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, and I'm not contesting whether or not the guy is a douche, but I think I can kind of see what he means about customer service.
I'm certainly not talking about over-the-top saccharine obsequiousness. I mean a willingness to be generally pleasant and neutral and roll with the punches and not see it as a betrayal of personal integrity, and also not take it personally when someone you're trying to help starts cutting up and being a demanding, unreasonable rear end in a top hat, which they often do in our industry. Retail and other service work gives you armor, and, like the post I quoted pointed out, a lot of intangibles that come to bear on stressful interactions.

People are totally capable of understanding this if they've never worked retail or food service of course, but if they have, and they were good at it, I know they do. On my zombie squad, give me really excellent waiters.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

berth ell pup posted:

Target sucks. When I lived in Atlanta I went to one to get a can of Murray's pomade and they didn't have it so I knocked over a display and then pissed all over the men's room.
Implausible as hell, there's no loving way Target in Atlanta doesn't have Murray's

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

My standard response used to be a deadpan "I'm sorry sir/ma'am, that promotion ended last week." They really loved that one.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

That Robot posted:

working retail helped inform my opinions about class, labor, management and capitalism

it helped make me into a socialist
:same:

Thank you retail for purging my soul of the last vestiges of liberalism

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Re very very rich people: not my story, but my partner's. He went to an Ivy League university on scholarship and earned walking-around money working as a barista/bartender. His former employer was a coffeeshop on one side and a bar on the other, located on a narrow street, and if you know the school and the town you probably know which one I'm talking about. Partner usually worked the opening shift. The café side served coffee and pastries and things, and also juice, but back then it was bottled juice only. No fresh-squeezed juice on the menu at all. That didn't stop one regular customer from ordering fresh orange juice every morning, because although the cafe didn't officially serve it, the bar did keep oranges around for drink garnish.

This kid was the son of some oil magnate or other. Every single morning he'd double-park his Lambo, come into the shop and order a fresh-squeezed juice. He'd wait patiently and politely while my partner went to the bar side, dug up a bunch of oranges, squeezed them by hand, and rang the guy up for $25. Meanwhile parking enforcement would inevitably come by and slap a $250 ticket on the Lambo, which was always blocking the entire street, bringing the customer's daily OJ tab to $275.

He never batted an eye. Partner said he was very nice, tipped pretty well, and didn't seem to comprehend that there was anything out of the ordinary about this arrangement.

spite house fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Jun 27, 2017

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Something for non-retail vets to keep in mind: if a retail worker is doing something annoying -- hounding you when you just want to shop in peace, interrogating you about charity drives and membership programs and credit cards and poo poo when you're checking out, asking a bunch of seemingly dumb and pointless questions, etc -- you can be certain that it was all the idea of some suit at the head office. The worker doesn't want to be doing these things and would much rather use her own judgment, but she will get shopped on her spiel and if she fails a shop she's looking at a writeup.

You hate hearing it. Trust and believe that she hates having to do it, and getting snapped at for it, dozens if not hundreds of times a day.

Also, if there never seems to be anyone around to help you shop, or if there aren't enough lanes open, or if the store's a mess, that's almost always down to head office or general management not assigning enough staff hours. Keeping the absolute bare minimum of workers on the floor at any given time is a core principle of retail doctrine. If you grouse at the cashier about it you are going to hell.

Starman Super DX posted:

I think keeping the offer open and giving them a little space (unless they're suspicious) is going to be more appreciated by the customer than anything- especially because in some retail stores the secret shopper isn't necessarily a store manager, just some random customer they pulled aside beforehand and asked them to fill out something detailing their overall experience after and whether or not the basic things happened e.g. "did any employees offer assistance?", "were you given a friendly greeting?", "were you offered carry-out service?" and most normal people aren't going to be upset that they were only asked if they needed help once by the same person and that they didn't insist. I would think, anyway.
You think correctly about what customers tend to want. You're wrong about secret shoppers, though. They're independent contractors hired by the company to check up on staff, secret shopping is their job, they are usually bored housewives or retirees looking to fill their time and add purpose and meaning to their lives, and they're almost always letter-of-the-law tin Hitlers.

spite house fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Jun 27, 2017

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

The real purpose of tipping culture is brilliantly illustrated by how people who don't tip or don't want to are unable to express this sentiment without also sneering theatrically at tipped workers in general. It's strictly a power game and serves to establish and reinforce class distinctions in a society that claims not to have any.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

I'd rather sweaty tit money than sweaty shoe money, and I've had to take a lot of both. Sweaty shoe money usually comes from cyclists, specifically those Spandex-warrior dipshits who just fart around the city blocking traffic on weekends but dress like they're riding the Tour de France and don't carry wallets because "it's too much weight". Between the fetid shoe money and the budgie-smuggler shorts it's like it's their primary mission to gross cashiers out.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Gorilla Salad posted:

EDIT: Nope, I remember the money which really disgusted me the most - people with nasty hands. Like open sores, or covered in warts and poo poo. I'd have to go wash my hands even if it means making a customer wait.
One time I was ringing up a woman who had some kind of skin condition, and she started scratching greasy yellow drifts of skin flakes off her forearms and onto my counter in the middle of the transaction.

The people in line behind her were irritated that I made them wait while I cleaned up.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

spacetoaster posted:

Wow. What else to parents/kids do?
"Do what I say or this lady [meaning me] will call the police on you."

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Sibilant Crisp posted:

one time a customer called me Line Hitler.
I've gotten this a couple of times. Did someone send out a memo?

After a while I figured that I wasn't paid enough to play Line Police. Whoever was in front of me got rung up and that was the extent of my involvement. Had a similar breakthrough about trying to catch shoplifters, and, indeed, anything that wasn't on my list of duties as described in the orientation materials. Made life a lot easier.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Kelp Me! posted:

Never had an issue writing 0 instead of cash though, I don't think it's rude if you're leaving the cash in there with the check. I usually just draw a line instead of writing 0 but same concept.
I always write 0 and tip cash in case the person I'm tipping has a lovely boss who will come after them for it if they see "cash" on the tip line.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Starman Super DX posted:

you know, I've never written anything in the tip line after taking my receipt when I leave cash behind on the table. Is this something I should be concerned about?
Eh, there are stories about unscrupulous servers filling in their own tips if the line's left blank, but it's super-rare. You're probably fine.

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spite house
Apr 28, 2009

MC Hawking posted:

Edit: I like mornings in retail. Plenty of time to read and argue about authoritarian power systems with the ice machine.
Yeah, opening shifts turned me into more of a morning person than I was before. They're like the people who jeer about retail being the easiest job on the planet think retail work is, before the entire cast of "King of Hearts" shows up and tears the store apart.

Mids can be OK depending, but gently caress closes unless you really really like gobacks, trying to get people to leave when they've decided that they live there now, and the fun game where you have to find all the gross things customers have hidden behind the merchandise.

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