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Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.


This gif needs the context of the teddy bear neck snap.

Bobbin Threadbare fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Jun 14, 2017

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Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

kidcoelacanth posted:

Pre-bummed about lack of Jackie

Right now I'm seeing five possible futures.

1. Jackie fights for Marco's attention, but he can't keep away from Star.
2. Jackie turns out to not be that invested and tells Marco to "go to her." (Feels like a cop-out, probably won't happen).
3. Jackie turns out to be the wrong kind of weird for Marco once they really get to know each other.
4. Marco turns out to be the wrong kind of weird for Jackie. (Also unlikely since his weirdness has been on full display since before they started dating).
5. Jackie remains Marco's long-distance girlfriend despite everything that happened/will soon happen. (Would be anticlimactic considering the season 2 ending, but it seems like there's an outside chance it could work if the creators decide to kill Starco for good).

The Ayshkerbundy posted:

It's also been confirmed that there will be more of Alfonzo and Ferguson in season 3 because the writers finally figured out what to do with them

Having Alfonzo follow through on "Pixtopia" and become an evil tyrant Star and Marco have to defeat could potentially be amazing. Then again, the guidebook and comic emphasized their time as a double centaur, and that could go in some very weird and interesting directions.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

I said I'd make an episode guide, so I figured I might as well post it now. The next two will go up 22 and 11 days before the season 3 premier because that seems convenient.

Fair warning: I am a Star vs. superfan, so my response to "Which episodes are worth skipping?" is "Watch them all. Multiple times." This episode guide avoids spoilers for the sake of readers who are interested in getting into the show but also has some of the stuff you might miss if you aren't paying attention. I also threw in some personal thoughts and theories because why not.



Episode 0101a: Star Comes to Earth

Star Butterfly, a magical princess from another dimension, obtains the Royal Magic Wand on the day she turns 14. After she burns down a town with it later that same day, her parents ship her off to Earth as an alternative to St. Olga's Reform School for Wayward Princesses. Meanwhile, Marco Diaz of Echo Creek Academy High School (located in a Los Angeles suburb) must wrestle with his reputation as "the Safe Kid" and the new foreign exchange student who has come to his house.

Fun facts: Watch Star's parents closely for an early cameo by Glossaryck. Both Janna and Jackie-Lynn are in the classroom at the start. The kid grabbed by Star's moth monster reappears during the first scene of "Brittney's Party," so don't worry about him. On the other hand, Star creates eight puppies in this episode, but then one gets sucked into the void in Marco's room and there are only seven puppies at most from then on. Puppies who are incredibly sad when Star is at the window. Star's archnemesis Ludo has his own theme, but he also has a theme instrument in the theremin. Star is right-handed, but she uses her wand ambidextrously.



Episode 0101b: Party with a Pony

Star's best friend from Mewni shows up to take her and Marco on an interdimensional club crawl. However, Flying Princess Pony Head and Marco get along like oil and water, and she may have ulterior motives for showing up so suddenly.

Fun facts: Depending on whom you ask, Pony Head is either the best character or the worst character. She is one of the few characters to carry over from the original comics Daron Nefcy drew for Star, but in the comics she dripped entrails instead of glitter. The show's tie-in guidebook mentions that Princess Pony Head is the oldest of 13 sisters, and it looks like we may meet some of them in season 3. The Squares of the Amethyst Arcade are voiced by Eddie Deezen, famous for playing Mandark of Dexter's Laboratory.

Food for thought: I'm pretty sure Star's wand can open dimensional rifts (Mystic Room Suck Transform), but the user would have to master a different spell for each dimension. Dimensional scissors are thus safer, more reliable, easier to use, and more plentiful than wand-based dimension hopping.



Episode 0102a: Matchmaker

Marco introduces Star to some of the high school cast members: his friends, Alfonzo and Ferguson, his long-time crush, Jackie-Lynn Thomas, and his math teacher, Miss Margaret Skullnick. Star's first math grade is an F-, so she decides to hook Skullzy up with a man to get herself a better grade. Meanwhile, Star's archnemesis, Ludo, decides to make a move while Star's distracted.

Fun facts: Official launch of the Jarco ship. Watch the crowd at school in the first scene for early appearances by Oskar and Janna. This is the first time someone uses a Mewni mirror like a phone, and a misdial manages to establish Star's history with her ex-boyfriend Tom in three lines. And while Skullnick's stomach gem might be a reference to Steven Universe, it could also be a reference to the first generation of troll dolls that also had stomach gems. Dolls Steven Universe might have been homaging too, for that matter.



Episode 0102b: School Spirit

When Echo Creek Academy gets hyped up for a football game with the Silver Hill Prep Warriors, Star mistakes the rivalry for a literal battle and prepares accordingly. Meanwhile, Ferguson has taken over mascot duties and so Marco dedicates himself to protecting him from the annual Warrior kidnapping prank.

Fun facts: Miss Skullnick's appearance in this episode is our first indication that the show will have strong continuity. The flag in the dead possum cutaway is at half-mast. Marco doesn't in fact know about football: he says, "Spritz 'em! Bring out the kitty-cat offense! Throw a couple of big bombs!" when he means to say, "Blitz 'em! Bring out the wildcat offense! Throw a couple of long bombs!" This is the first time we see that Star's cheek hearts don't have to be hearts and her wand doesn't have to look like a wand.



Episode 0103a: Monster Arm

Marco breaks his hand instead of three boards when thoughts of his rival Jeremy distract him during his karate training. When he asks Star for help, she pulls out the giant Book of Spells she's had all along (but doesn't use since it's a disorganized mess). However, the spell she picks turns his arm into a giant tentacle with a mind of its own.

Fun facts: The monster arm hasn't reappeared since this episode, but the guidebook makes it clear the creators haven't forgotten about it. Watch carefully when Star flips through the Book of Spells for Glossaryck's second early cameo.

Food for thought: Star vs. references a lot of other shows and movies. Do you think Day of the Tentacle is one of them? Because that might be why the tentacle is purple. Lars the bully is part of the crowd in the intro, but this is his only speaking appearance in an episode. I guess the creators must have realized a bully wouldn't be much of a problem to protagonists who regularly beat up monsters who are even bigger.



Episode 0103b: The Other Exchange Student

One of the Diaz's previous foreign exchange students shows up for a three-week visit, much to Star's chagrin. But is that just jealousy she feels, or does Gustav really have something to hide? Gustav is voiced by prolific voice actor Rob Paulsen.

Fun facts: Star's camera blinks when she takes a picture. Look closely at Star's dragon: it incorporates the wooden bridge. Bakersfield is a real city about two hours north of L.A.



Episode 0104a: Cheer Up Star

In a story told as flashbacks, Marco describes the worst day of his young life and how Star cheered him up afterwards. He then describes Star's first Earth crush, Oskar Greason (voiced by Jon Heder aka Napoleon Dynamite), and how she gave him her number. When he didn't call, Marco had to find some way to cheer up Star.

Fun facts: Official launch of the Ostar ship. "Space Unicorn" is a real song by Perry Grip. Star's quiz from "Matchmaker" is sitting on her desk, complete with Skullnick's spittle stains. Marco spits the dimensional scissors out of his mouth the same way Pony Head did back in "Party with a Pony." Marco's backyard and shed are full of art projects because his dad is a professional artist.



Episode 0104b: Quest Buy

Star loses her wand charger, and she needs to find a new one at the interdimensional big box store Quest Buy before it runs out of power. Meanwhile, Ludo is at Quest Buy to find a Beak 'N' Trim.

Fun fact: Watch Marco closely during the first minute to see him cause the episode to happen.

Food for thought: Lobster Claws only appears in this episode and the one that bears his name. Do you think they switched the production order to avoid implying that Marco accidentally killed him?



Episode 0105a: Diaz Family Vacation

It's the Diaz's wedding anniversary, and when Marco's parents praise his gift of fanny packs (despite not really liking them), Star invites the family on a Mewni vacation.

Fun fact: I've heard some folks complain that Marco drops his "safe kid" persona after the first episode, but the fanny packs are proof that he doesn't lose touch with it completely. Plus his ability to prepare and organize is almost supernatural.

Food for thought: The episode passes it off as a joke, but there are some serious social stratification issues in Mewni. This isn't the last we'll see of them, either. How very devious of you, Nefcy.



Episode 0105b: Brittney's Party

Echo Creek's resident Rich Mean Girl Brittney Wong holds her birthday party on a bus, and Star misunderstands her way into showing up with Marco. Meanwhile, Ludo hatches a brilliant scheme to catch Star.

Fun facts: First appearance by an as-yet unnamed StarFan13. First appearence of Star's pink horns; she wears her red set throughout season 1, but she wears the pink horns with a new green dress with poofy sleeves during season 2. At one point you can see a street exit sign list "Cahooga," "Holliwood," and "Setsun," which are takes on Cahuenga, Hollywood, and Sunset Boulevards. This is what confirms that Echo Creek is an L.A. suburb. The old Japanese man apparently has a bad (American) accent, but what he says is "I may be 80, but I'm still energetic!"

Food for thought: Brittney kind of has a reason to be upset. Her party may have been miserable, but that was intentional on her part since forcing others to suffer affirms her social standing. But then a crazy magical foreigner shows up, hogs the spotlight, and gives everyone a fun time in the bargain. How messed up is that?



Episode 0106a: Mewberty

Star enters "destroy-the-school weird" territory when she starts going through Mewberty. When Marco looks through the Book of Spells for a way to stop it, Glossaryck makes his first formal appearance.

Fun fact: Official launch of the Janco ship. This is also the first episode in which Janna has a speaking role. Despite that, Janna would turn out to be much more interesting than either of Marco's friends. Glossaryck has six fingers instead of the standard four. He won't be the only one, either, so keep an eye out.

Food for thought: If the episode's events are what has to happen for Star to go back to normal, what has to happen for her to not return to normal? Furthermore, note that Star's Mewberty is purple. Is that significant, or just a random color? Does every Mewman go through Mewberty, or just the ones with cheek symbols?



Episode 0106b: Pixtopia

Marco, Ferguson, and Alfonzo spend a day making crank calls on Star's mirror, but they run out her minutes in the process. As a result, all four of them have to head to Pixtopia to pay off Star's bill.

Food for thought: The shard mines block magic. So what would happen if someone fused those shards into a pane of glass? Would it also resist magic? Do you think it could regenerate itself? Also, Alfonzo will continue to show up despite the ending. Supposedly he explains why during "Mewnipendence Day," but I haven't heard the line.



Episode 0107a: Lobster Claws

When Lobster Claws (voiced by comedian Brian Posehn) horribly fails an easy wand grab, Ludo fires him on the spot. He's still in the backyard when Star and Marco get back from school, and while Star wants to blast him until he goes away, Marco thinks Lobster Claws might be able to reform.

Fun facts: This episode seems like just another crisis of the week, but this is the start of a major paradigm shift for Star. When Lobster Claws rampages, it's on "Setsun Boulevard." Apparently they took a bus to downtown L.A. between scenes.

Food for thought: Season 2 depicts different magic types as different colors, but it's more random in season 1--at least apart from this episode. Purple-black clearly represents evil magic, and the show sticks to this several times more in the second season and even the third season promo.



Episode 0107b: Sleep Spells

Star has begun unleashing her magic in her sleep, so Marco decides to use psychology to try and find out why. But just how much does he really understand about Star, and what should he do about his own issues of inadequacy?

Fun fact: Marco could have figured out Star's issues earlier if he had bothered to analyze her painting. Take a look at the head of the snake that's constricting Star.



Episode 0108a: Blood Moon Ball

Star's demon ex-boyfriend Tom shows up to take her to an Underworld party, and in the process he checks off all the boxes for "controlling boyfriend with anger issues." Still, he's trying to change himself, so Star decides to give him a chance. But what does Marco want?

Fun facts: Official launch of the Starco ship (the unofficial launch was when Disney first released the protagonists' character designs). Oskar's car got booted. Every appearance of Tom from this point on has him wearing something over his right wrist, implying that the injury Marco gives him hasn't gone away. The show's composer, Brian H. Kim, created and released a full-length version of the Blood Moon Waltz during the break between seasons 1 and 2.



Episode 0108b: Fortune Cookies

After a fun afternoon of fighting monsters, Marco and Star go out for Chinese food and Marco tricks Star into thinking fortune cookies actually predict the future. Meanwhile, Ludo gets sick of his constant failures and hires a monster known only as Toffee (voiced by Michael C. Hall of Dexter) to wrangle his idiots.

Fun facts: The chicken cries over spilled milk soda. I don't think it's been officially confirmed, but Toffee's name (TOFE) could be an anagram of "The Forces Of Evil."



Episode 0109a: Freeze Day

When Marco is late to his daily nod to Jackie, he asks Star to magically freeze time. She does so, much to her own surprise, but it then turns out that starting time back up involves convincing Father Time (voiced by comedian Jim Gaffigan) to get back on the Wheel of Progress.

Fun facts: During the freeze day montage, the family whose cake they eat is the one hosting "Gustav." This episode technically includes a non-speaking cameo by a season 2 character.

Food for thought: The second season character is probably the reason the Book of Spells explains how to fix time even though time never froze before. The guidebook says Jackie-Lynn Thomas' aqua hair streak is natural, but it's not there when we see her in kindergarten. Animation error, guidebook error, retcon, or something that developed over time? Father Time's final warning is probably the showrunners explaining why Star doesn't stop time as the ultimate trump card in future episodes.



Episode 0109b: Royal Pain

Star's father shows up at the Diaz home when the queen kicks him out, and Star learns that not everyone enjoys all her whimsical activities when her father starts inflicting a few on her.

Fun facts: This episode marks the first appearance of the recurring spell/character Cloudy. Star calls a golf ball a tiny moon because Mewni has like a dozen huge moons.

Food for thought: Apparently, Star isn't the only Mewman who has trouble adjusting to the Earthian way of life. It kind of makes me hope that at some point the royal family gets exiled to Earth and we end up with a sitcom that blends Perfect Strangers with Game of Thrones.



Episode 0110: St. Olga's Reform School for Wayward Princesses

Star tries to celebrate Flying Princess Pony Head's Birthday Day even though she's still at St. O's, but she accidentally makes her break the rules and the guards drag Pony Head off. Star resolves to rescue her, and Marco comes along mostly because he loves prison break movies. Opposing them is the school's headmistress, Miss Heinous (voiced by Jessica Walter of Arrested Development, Archer, and more).

Fun facts: The school's singing coach is played by Jodi Benson, aka the voice of Ariel. Be sure to take a good look at the princess poster after Pony Head is done with it. Three out of four card suits revealed. I know Star vs. is full of references, but I've never seen anyone bring up the fact that Miss Heinous has a total Grinch grin at the end of the episode.

Food for thought: I really hope Glossaryck and Heinous end up in an episode together so they can make Arrested Development jokes. This episode (along with several other girly moments) has led to a fan theory that Marco is trans, but episode 0216b would suggest he's simply in touch with his feminine side.



Episode 0111a: Mewnipendance Day

Star brings together some assorted friends to celebrate Mewnipendance Day and reenact the Great Monster Massacre, the battle that marked the day Mewmans conquered what is now Mewni from the monsters. Meanwhile, Toffee comes up with a plan to get Star's wand, but what's his real end goal here?

Fun fact: Star's paradigm shift continues as Marco offers a new interpretation of her national history.

Food for thought: Toffee is studying a chapter about wands in the book Mewni: History of Royalty. Maybe he's looking for an important tradition or quality of Star's wand that will make it easier to steal?



Episode 0111b: The Banagic Incident

On a slow day, Star stumbles across an ad for the Banagic Wand. She wants Marco to help her find one, but he has karate practice and he won't skip it just for that. Chaos ensues, both in the dojo and on the streets of Echo Creek.

Food for thought: Star may have caused a lot of trouble, but when you compare this episode to "School Spirit" and how her dad behaved in "Royal Pain," she's definitely getting better at living on Earth. Also, what she does to Marco at the end seems a little mean, but I think she's still upset about the Blood Moon Ball and how he keeps underestimating her. Not that it's hard to see why he would after "School Spirit."



Episode 0112a: Interdimensional Field Trip

When Miss Skullnick takes the class on a boring field trip, Star argues that life should be fun. Skullnick takes this as a dare, so she lets Star get her first taste of power by bringing the class to the Dimension of Wonders and Amazements. Unfortunately, it turns out Star isn't ready yet for the responsibility. But on the bright side, Skullnick gets a new lease on life.

Fun facts: In the guidebook, Alfonzo and Ferguson seem a little obsessed with regaining the double-centaur form they take in this episode. It also comes up in the comic series.



Episode 0112b: Marco Grows a Beard

Marco becomes obsessed with growing facial hair after Jackie compliments another skater on his wimpy beard, and Star suggests using magic as a shortcut. Marco says no, but Star does it anyway to disastrous consequences. Ludo and Toffee try and take advantage of this fact, but Ludo hits a roadblock thanks to a childhood trauma.

Fun fact: This episode kicks off another character development arc as Star starts to rely on herself instead of her wand.

Food for thought: As we learn towards the end of season 2, Ludo's hair trauma was probably not caused by an innocent mistake.



Episode 0113: Storm the Castle

With Ludo out of the picture for the moment, Toffee wastes no time in putting his own more thoughtful plan into action. Star must go without Marco on this occasion, so she gets help from unlikely sources (completing her paradigm shift). Once all the dust settles, Star, Marco, and the wand appear to get out alright, but Toffee doesn't seem surprised or disappointed by the result of his plan...

Fun facts: The sandwich at the start is bread, egg, swiss cheese, spinach, bread, bacon, lettuce, tomato, mustard, ham, bread, and a green olive on top. Another one shows up later, so Star isn't the only person who knows about the Sandwich Dimension. This episode is the first time we hear the dads' first names: River Butterfly and Rafael Diaz. Also, remember what happens to Star's cheek hearts near the end. This will come up again.

Food for thought: If Toffee can regenerate his whole left arm in a matter of seconds, what could have happened to the finger on his right hand?

Bobbin Threadbare fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Jun 19, 2017

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Notes:

The Diaz home is still covered in graduation party decorations but the Diazes are ready for bed. Presumably season 3 picks up a few hours after season 2 ends and just after Marco finished his live stream.

Ruberiot is at the party River holds, so apparently the royal family didn't execute him for revealing state secrets.

Star is wearing Marco's hoodie around her neck (and the dress she ended season 2 in) when she's bo-staffing the rats.

Ludo looks somewhat beat up when he realizes someone's possessing his hand.

River's last sentence is "Fetch our son loincloths."

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Senerio posted:

Fetch us our loincloths.

Disney Television Animated News captured a higher quality version, and you're totally right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtnBnhz-0Ac

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Corte posted:

So I'm caught up and going through one of my oh so predictable bouts of ennui after having no more episodes to watch. Anyone have a recommendation for something in a similar vein? I've watched Steven Universe, Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, Avatar: The Last Airbender and Legend of Korra.

Do you have Netflix? Troll Hunters and the How to Train Your Dragon series are pretty good (the latter after you get past the first few formulaic episodes).

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Mraagvpeine posted:

At first I thought the cheek shapes on the royal family were just card suites (clubs, diamonds, spades and hearts). The other day I noticed that someone had lighting bolts. Do we know how many of those cheek shapes there are?

An unlimited number. Aunt Etheria in "Game of Flags" has five-pointed stars on her cheeks, and the background tapestries in the Grandma Room include queens with bunnies, four-pointed stars, and hourglasses.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

So have you watched the first season yet? Or at least the two double-length episodes? Very good, now read on.



Episode 0201a: My New Wand

Star and Marco must deal with the fallout of Storm the Castle, particularly Star's new wand with half a broken crystal in it. Then the wand suddenly flies to Glossaryck, trapping it, the Book of Spells, and Marco in Star's secrets closet. The door won't open without magic, but Glossaryck explains to Star that she can "dip down" to use magic without her wand.

Fun facts: Star starts the new season in a new outfit. If you pay close attention to the stuff in Star's closet, you'll see things left over from a lot of season one episodes. The unicorn head spins in a full circle.

Food for thought: The first spell Star casts without her wand creates a pink key, and the first spell she casts with her new wand creates a green explosion.



Episode 0201b: Ludo in the Wild

Star tossed Ludo into the abyss at the end of "Storm the Castle," but a mysterious green force pushes him through an open portal and into a wild forest. There, Ludo must learn to survive or die in the hostile environment.

Fun facts: Aside from the opening and closing classical piece, the soundtrack is entirely produced by a prepared piano, which is where you bow the strings, slap the sides for percussion, put stuff on the strings for metallic notes, etc. The prepared piano will continue to represent Ludo throughout the rest of season 2. The shooting star in the night sky shot at the end is green. Take a good look at the skeleton hand and consider where you might have seen it before.

Food for thought: This would have been a really quiet episode if Ludo wasn't the kind of guy who never shuts up. So does Ludo's beard mean he's over his hair issues or does it not count when it's his? It's never really tested during season 2. Do you think Ludo's wearing a Big Boy Diaper? And whatever happened to the eagle's offspring?



Episode 0202a: Mr. Candle Cares

Star and Marco get career advice from Echo Creek Academy's new guidance counselor. However, his guidance may have ulterior motives. Regardless, Star finds herself struggling under the weight of being the future queen of Mewni.

Fun facts: The "smooch buddies" line was in the season 2 trailer for the sole purpose of teasing the shippers. Pears of anguish are real torture devices that (like the iron maiden) may or may not have actually been used. The track that ends this episode is a reprise of the track that ends "Sleep Spells," because Marco's words to Star here are as important as Star's were to Marco then.



Episode 0202b: Red Belt

Spurred on by his meeting with Mr. Candle, Marco decides it's high time he get his next karate belt. In the process, he discovers he has a lot more in common with his sensei than he thought.

Fun facts: The moon in Marco's dream is the Blood Moon; you can hear a bit of the Waltz when it appears. The fight at the end swaps out the usual sound effects for those used in classic kung fu movies.

Food for thought: How much of Marco's dream sequence is random and how much does it foreshadow future episodes/seasons? And just how present is the Blood Moon in his (and Star's) subconscious? For that matter, how does Star know exactly what kind of dream he was having? Did Rafael forget he has a chisel hammer, or is that not appropriate for nails? Despite underestimating his final opponent, Marco doesn't even consider retreating; all that time fighting monsters has really paid off.



Episode 0203a: Star on Wheels

After Star demands too much from Marco's bicycling skills, he decides to teach her how to ride for herself. Unfortunately, the old "I already let go" trick goes horribly wrong and Marco must get Oskar and Glossaryck to help him get Star her wand.

Fun facts: This is the first Oskar spotlight episode. As Star coasts down the first big hill, you can see the TV Store from "The Banagic Incident." This is the first episode to feature the compact mirror, Mewni's answer to Earth cell phones.

Food for thought: During "The Banagic Incident," Star apparently knew pedals have something to do with moving a bicycle, but she didn't know their name. That bike can coast like nobody's business. How many giant invisible goats are roaming around out there?



Episode 0203b: Fetch

After Star unwisely uses her wand as a stick for the laser puppies to fetch, a different dog catches it and refuses to let it go. Star tries to find the dog's owner and get her wand back for the rest of the episode. The surprise guest star is voiced by Mayim Bialik who has a supporting role on Big Bang Theory.

Fun facts: This episode kicks off Star's season-long character arc of learning to deal with her problems head-on instead of trying her hardest to avoid them. When Marco touches his eye after a laser puppy zaps it, the puppy mimics his movements. Sensei's mom is at the dog park during the second visit.

Food for thought: Mewni isn't the only dimension to treat Earth as a safe haven, as shown in this and other episodes. So how much of the rest of the Earthian cast is secretly alien (but better at hiding it than Star)?



Episode 0204a: Star vs. Echo Creek

Star discovers her antics have consequences when she commits them outside of the Diaz home and the high school her parents paid off. She responds in typical fashion by running away. The surprise guest star is voiced by Yvette Nicole Brown, who played Shirley on Community.

Fun facts: Pay close attention to the colors used in the tapestry, because you won't see it again after you find out what it's made of. The submarine in the underwater sequence first appeared in "Royal Pain."

Thought for food: As an experiment, I put some brown sugar on a burrito. It's not my thing, but it honestly wasn't that bad.



Episode 0204b: Wand to Wand

In a series of scenes that may or may not take place simultaneously, Star and Ludo find themselves having trouble controlling their new wands. In both cases, it turns out to be a matter of the wielder's emotions.

Fun facts: Unlike Star, Ludo is almost exclusively right-handed when he uses his wand. Glossaryck's explanation makes perfect sense once you realize how colored magic works. The eye in the second mud blinks.

Food for thought: Ludo's wand doesn't have a unicorn or a power source. It may or may not be feeding off of Star's wand, but not having a unicorn of its own is probably why his is harder to use. This episode clearly establishes two magic energy types: pink and green. Pink is powered by love and is better at creation (consider how all Star's best spells summon things to hit her enemies with. Even her rainbows are made of stuff). On the other hand, green is anger and hatred and is better at destruction--hence Green Cloudy's actions. But evil isn't green in "Lobster Claws," it's purple-black, and we see more purple-black energy in seasons 2 and (apparently) 3. So how many other magic emotion-colors are there?



Episode 0205a: Starstruck

While dumpster-diving for the evening's leftover donuts (a habit she picked up after "Fortune Cookies"), Star meets her childhood idol, Sailor Moon Mina Loveberry (voiced by Amy Sedaris of BoJack Horseman. She was Lydia too, incidentally). Unfortunately, time hasn't been kind to Mina since her show ended, and several of her marbles have gone missing.

Fun facts: Except once, whenever one dumpster lid opens, the other one closes. Mina has bunny earrings as part of her being a Sailor Moon reference. Several of the tourists at the Mud Pits are regular visitors to Gravity Falls, which is the closest we'll get to a crossover under current Disney rules. Also, that park ranger is totally dead. He starts sinking in one shot and the last we see of him is his hat floating on the mud. Just like in real life, several people don't vote.

Food for thought: Marco acts as Star's conscience in this and other episodes, and as a result she seems to be turning into a much nicer person than most Mewmans. Not that Marco always resists temptation when it's directed at him. Note, though, that Marco is now letting Star figure things out on her own.



Episode 0205b: Camping Trip

When Star and the Diazes go on vacation to not-Yellowstone Park, Star's father joins them in a desperate bid to stay relevant in his daughter's life.

Fun facts: Marco first demonstrated he knows how to fish during "Cheer Up Star." Based on what River says, Star never told her parents she dated Tom. Pay attention during the Last Piggyback Ride sequence, because in the end River wins the staring contest. A man who looks suspiciously similar to Soos is part of the crowd that comes to watch Old Youthful. To be precise, it's 120 mph.

Food for thought: As harsh as nature on Earth can be, it makes sense that Star and River would be laid back considering the Forest of Certain Death and everything. I get the feeling that someone messed up the storyboard order for the waterfall jump and then someone else said, "No, wait, it's more awesome like this."



Episode 0206a: Starsitting

Yvgeny Bulgolyubov (aka Buff Frog) asks Star and Marco to babysit his Buff Babies while he's away on a job. Over the course of the episode, the two of them both make mistakes and good decisions, showing that babies need both structure and fun.

Fun fact: Buff Frog's season 1 tunic had Ludo's noble crest on it. His season 2 tunic does not.

Food for thought: Bears sure come up a lot on this show. Bears and spiders.



Episode 0206b: On the Job

With his kids safe with the protagonists, Buff Frog goes on a job to pay for his kids' food. However, his evil instincts seem blunted now that he's a father.

Fun facts: This is the first Buff Frog spotlight episode. Also contains the first sighting of River Butterfly's rocking throne.

Food for thought: Whatever happened to Ludo's old henchmen? Aside from Buff Frog and now Boo Fly, we haven't seen what's become of them or even whether they survived the explosion at the end of season 1.



Episode 0207a: Goblin Dogs

Pony Head invites Star and Marco to try a Goblin Dog, but the line for the food truck is incredibly long. The whole episode is based around a single joke, but there is a payoff. Also introduces Kelly, another of Star's old friends.

Fun facts: Look at the line carefully and you'll see beings who were at the Bounce Lounge, the Amethyst Arcade, the Scum Bucket (the second club from "Party with a Pony"), the Blood Moon Ball, King Butterfly's party, one of Buff Frog's coworkers, and maybe even a few references to other shows. Pony Head assumes people are dead very quickly, as seen here and in "Party with a Pony."



Episode 0207b: By the Book

Star is slacking off on her magic training, and when she unintentionally insults Glossaryck he starts sulking in a donut box.

Fun fact: Glossaryck has three arms at one point. All the spells Star uses during the fight scene are spells she hasn't used since the first season, which is why they're all underpowered now. Several reappear at full power later, so presumably she does some more training.

Food for thought: The wand crystal seems to function as a focus to help the wielder reach the magic that's already inside them. This means Star's spells depowered because she only has half a crystal, and they power back up later because she practices reaching deeper for her magic. Would death by crushing really be a danger to a guy who lives between the pages of a book? Honestly, Star just needed to think about that for a second. Exactly how far does Glossaryck's prescience extend?



Episode 0208a: Game of Flags

The extended Butterfly and Johansen royal families get together for their annual picnic (River Butterfly is né Johansen since the Butterflys are matrilineal). The two families aren't exactly fans of each other, so they decide to resolve their differences with Flags, an extreme game of King of the Hill. Star is determined to join in to prove that she deserves a seat at the grown-up table.

Fun facts: The episode's title is a pun on Game of Thrones, and the comparisons don't end there. Uncle Hartrude's right hand is a different shade than the rest of his skin in that first scene. This episode demonstrates that a Butterfly doesn't have to be in the direct line of succession to have cheek marks and those marks don't have to be card suits. However, not every Butterfly has cheek marks. The Johansen royal crest consists of three weapons around a shield and a bear caught in a bear trap. The Butterfly royal crest is two banners surrounding a fancy shield decorated with butterflies, stars, moons, and hearts with a crown and a smug unicorn on top. Poulaines are those fancy shoes with the long, pointy tips.

Food for thought: For someone who keeps saying not to waste time on anybody, Star sure wastes a lot of time on Marco. One of the Johansens is wearing a fanny pack; did River spread word of their utility after "Diaz Family Vacation?" The ending irony is great, but also keep in mind that Marco is the only one who always played fair.



Episode 0208b: Girls' Day Out

After Star kicks up a fuss in math class, Miss Skullnick sends her to detention. Once there, Janna convinces her to do favors for the other members of "D10."

Fun facts: This is the first spotlight episode for Janna and marks her introduction to Star's inner circle of friends. She basically replaces Alfonzo and Fergusen from this point on. Ingrid's German is apparently grammatically incorrect. Janna unrolls the map upside down.

Food for thought: The title can apply to Marisol, too. Miss Skullnick's season 2 design is much less lumpy and disturbing, which probably means that diet of hers is working.



Episode 0209a: Sleepover

Pony Head finds a Cenobite Box in the bathroom at the Bounce Lounge and decides to bring it to Star's sleepover as a party game. Features Sean Schemmel (aka the voice of Goku) as the box.

Fun facts: Watch the expression on the girls' faces to see their real opinion on Star's brownies. Daron Nefcy voices StarFan13, but that's not too unusual; she's done "additional voices" characters in two-thirds of the episodes and StarFan13 happens to be one the creators decided could be more than a one-off joke. StarFan13's usual favorite color is purple, and she's wearing a banana around her neck to duplicate Star's moon nightgown. StarFan13 has an "I'm flying, Jack" pose when Star holds her up. This episode starts the running joke of having characters name different things at different times as their favorite/second favorite whatever.

Food for thought: The real reason Marco doesn't eat a brownie is because he'd have been up front with Star about their taste. One of Pony Head's comments to Marco before the game begins makes a lot more sense when you consider her reaction during "Starcrushed." Apparently magical constructs have spell resistance, a fact reinforced by the next episode.



Episode 0209b: Gift of the Card

Star got Marco a Quest Buy gift card for their six-month friendshipaversary, but he doesn't like shopping and especially doesn't like Quest Buy and now it's about to expire. Meanwhile, Miss Heinous hires the bounty hunter RASTICORE CHAOSUS DISASTERVAINE (Original Character Do Not Steal) to get revenge on her archnemesis, Princess Marco. Features special guest star Susan Bennett (aka the voice of Siri).

Fun facts: Rasticore's tracking device is the same model used by Toffee in "Marco Grows a Beard." For that matter, it's all but certain they're both the same race. Miss Heinous' money has a picture of a queen on it. Marco has a Space Unicorn wallet; I guess he gave up on saying "it's supposed to be ironic." The customer service sloth is reading a magazine called "Slow Rider."

Food for thought: The contract is dark purple. I can't help but think that Rasticore is a parody of overpowered fan-made characters and/or 90s comic book antiheroes. The name, the gem eye, the fact he's same race as Toffee, the trying-too-hard gruff voice, the muscular build, the spiky shoulders, the cape, the cyborg arm, the dimensional chainsaw. It also helps that everything that happens to him is a joke that no one told Rasticore.



Episode 0210a: Friend-enemies

Look at that poster. Look at it. Need I say anything? Guest stars Nick Lachey as Love Sentence vocalist Justin Towers.

Fun facts: Official launch of the Tomco ship. And if the poster isn't enough, Tom is eating rainbow-colored ice cream when he first appears. Specifically, it's the pansexual flag colors, although that much detail might be coincidental. Mackie Hand has a name like Jackie Chan, a face like Chuck Norris, and a death like Bruce Lee.

Food for thought: Marco tries to buy two tickets to the marathon; I wonder who else he wants to come? Mackie Hand is to Marco what Mina Loveberry is to Star, which is appropriate since Mina is more of a danger to others while Mackie is more of a danger to himself. Tom proves in this episode that his anger management efforts weren't just a stunt to try and get Star back.



Episode 0210b: Is Mystery

Buff Frog is staking out the mysterious hole the monsters found in "On the Job," but things get complicated fast when a guard discovers his hiding spot.

Fun facts: This is the first episode ever to not feature Marco or Star even a little bit, thereby cementing Buff Frog's status as the show's third protagonist. Star vs. can get away with this because its half-hour blocks mean the lead actors only have to show up in one of the two episodes. Buff Frog's handwriting is not stylized. Meatfork gives Buff Frog a classic "boobs and butt" pose when he flexes for him. Classic in comic books, anyway.

Food for thought: Question: why didn't Buff Frog ask Star and Marco to babysit for him again? Answer: he got Boo Fly to do it.



Episode 0211a: Hungry Larry

Rafael Diaz can't scare a kid to save his life, which is a problem on Halloween. Star tries to help by summoning Hungry Larry, but things don't go the way she expects. Hungry Larry is voiced by Billy West of Futurama fame and the part makes good use of his vocal range.

Fun facts: This is the first spotlight episode for Marco's dad and completes the trifecta of badass dads with River and Buff Frog. Star is dressed as season 1 Ludo, but she added a tail because she supposedly forgot whether he has one or not (he doesn't because he's a kappa-bird). Janna appears to be Frankenstein's Lawyer and I can't help but think it's an off-brand reference to She-Hulk.



Episode 0211b: Spider with a Top Hat

This episode takes us inside the wand, or at least inside the dimension where all of Star's summons hang out when they aren't currently summoned. There, Spider with a Top Hat is the most popular entertainment spell around, but something inside him is just not satisfied with that. Lots of guest stars in this one, including comedians Ron Lynch and Maria Bamford as the married(?) couple.

Fun facts: The crystal piece in the hall's centerpiece is on the right (although some shots put it on the left), as if it were the other side of Star's left-side crystal piece. Spider with a Top Hat always appears during the outro, but he also had a cameo in "The Other Exchange Student." I don't know how many times Narwhal with an Eyepatch appeared, but Star definitely shot him twice during the triple narwhal blast of "Matchmaker" and fired him at "Gustav" in "The Other Exchange Student." The narwhal with a star on her forehead (Starwhal?) is also unique and first appeared in "Star Comes to Earth." Every time Spider with a Top Hat practices (except when he shows off to Narwhal), he takes off his hat. Half the characters in this episode appear for a split second in the season 3 intro. Just like real horses, warnicorns have little sexual dimorphism.

Food for thought: What happens when Star learns a new summon spell? Do they appear in the wand realm and get a big welcoming party? Also, Cloudy is conspicuously absent from the summons chamber. Perhaps that's related to why he was upset at being unsummoned in "Marco Grows a Beard." The same goes for Board Game Star and Marco come to think of it.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Test Pattern posted:

Would someone explain the "Jackie-Lynn is a mermaid" fan theory to me? Is it anything more than a bit of shell-theming on her accessories?

The shell, the hair streak, her ocean-green dress in "Bon Bon," her comment that she used to live by the river (assuming she wasn't joking), plus the fact that skateboards and surfboards have a lot in common. But as far as proof goes, there's as much of that as there is proof that Oskar is a vampire. As far as anyone knows, the show could be hinting at something, but Jackie could just as easily be a human who likes neon green.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.


Well it is right there in the theme song.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

The real twist is that her arm appears to be severed.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Whitenoise Poster posted:

I think the implication is that she managed to move her arm, with her glove left behind like stars socks when she got half crystaled that one time but I got no solid evidence for that.

Well, there's a reason I hedged with "appears to be." But either way, the intro is consistent with her appearance in "Crystal Clear."



Is that light splotch her arm behind her back? It's hard to say for certain.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Lanz posted:

I think that's Toffee's hand. It's missing half it's finger in the same place his was from where Moon blasted it off (as seen in the banner in the "Grandmas room")

It is beyond a doubt Toffee's hand. Aside from the fact that it looks like his hand after he fuses it to Ludo's arm using his regeneration ability, Moon recognizes it instantly when he holds it up for her.

Senerio posted:

It's desynched in general. If you move it like a quarter second forward it works a lot better.

Disney XD's Tumblr has the original version and it's not desynced. The dancing in Tom's coach is still a little early, though.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Not to mention the real reason Queen Eclipsa will reemerge. Guess this would also explain why her hand moved since the first time she got crystalized. And with the way Ruberiot keeps showing up in the promos, I'm thinking we might get another song out of Patrick Stump.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Madurai posted:

There just doesn't seem to be much to him, though. Narratively, Marco functions as a big bag of reaction gifs. You could make a better case for Ludo as second protagonist.

From having just binged the whole show (minus a couple of season 1's I missed somehow, have to fix that) there are twin rails that this show runs on, and they are the voice performances of Eden Sher and Alan Tudyk. It's not that Adam McArthur's work as Marco isn't perfectly competent, it's just that it seems by comparison... like an ordinary cartoon character.

I wouldn't say that; Marco has plenty of moments that aren't just reactions to Star's antics. He figured out Quest Buy's organization system in seconds flat, he led the way during the St. Olga's breakout and revolution, he convinced Tom to leave Star alone, he broke Tom's door like it wasn't even there, and when Naysaya showed up he eventually sucked it up and laid out all his insecurities. Not only that, but he and Star have strongly influenced each other over the seasons: Star pushed Marco out of his rut and got him to start taking chances and moving forward, while Marco has inspired Star to act like a better person and face the consequences of her actions instead of avoid them.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

All caught up? Because we're only halfway through and just a few episodes away from the mid-season finale.



Episode 0212a: Into the Wand

When something contaminates Star's wand, Glossaryck takes her inside it to find the thing that doesn't belong.

Fun facts: The contaminated energy is green but opaque and gooey instead of glowing. Glossaryck's fingernail doesn't belong. Queen Moon's first name was well known in the fandom by this point but I think this is the first time anyone says her name in the show. And yes, I'm fairly sure "Moon and River" is yet another reference. Watch the first shot after Star enters school carefully and try to wrap your head around the implications. Marco must be a fan of boy bands in general, because his locker has a sticker for Sev'ral Timez of Gravity Falls. Four of four card suits revealed.

Food for thought: We first see a deformed narwhal in "My New Wand." Does that mean the wand was showing symptoms of contamination before and simply got worse? Eclipsa's "wand" is purple-black. So is Moon's darkest spell. Presumably the Butterfly queens who descend from Eclipsa are children of her first lawful marriage to a Mewman. Although Butterfly cheek marks don't have to be card suits, the suit symbols are prominent throughout the Grandma Room. The stuff that coats the wand in the season 3 promo is purple-black but opaque and gooey instead of glowing.



Episode 0212b: Pizza Thing

Star invites Pony Head over for Friendship Thursday, but Pony Head and Marco continue to get along like oil and water. When Marco goes out for a pizza, Pony Head tags along, and both of them manage to screw things up.

Fun facts: There are actually 53 mushrooms. Listen closely and you can hear pretty much everything the guy on the phone says to Emilio. Mackie Hand is one of the celebrities who visited Emilio's Pizza.

Food for thought: Marco might wear skinny jeans, but those are some skinny skinny jeans.



Episode 0213a: Page Turner

Glossaryck decides to let Star look at the darkest chapter of the Book of Spells (under close supervision), but before he can start he gets a call he can't ignore from the Magic High Commission.

Fun facts: According to the guidebook, Glossaryck created the four permanent members of the High Commission. That would be why he calls them "children." Omnitraxus also has six fingers on each hand. Queen Eclipsa ruled 10 generations before Queen Moon.

Food for thought: For someone who says he has no feelings, that was a pretty spirited response to Star's comments at the end. Also note he uses pink energy. Marco's portal is purple-black.



Episode 0213b: Naysaya

Marco finally works up the courage to ask Jackie-Lynn Thomas out, but doing so triggers a demon curse Tom set after the Blood Moon Ball.

Fun facts: Star put her cheek hearts on her finger puppet. 724/37=19.567 repeating. Marco seems to think Lynn-Thomas is a compound last name, but the guidebook is very clear that Jackie-Lynn is a compound first name. This was probably some miscommunication among the creators, but at least it can be explained in-character as Marco being young and confused when he made the mistake.

Food for thought: I think Star vs. has the chillest jocks to have ever shown up in a cartoon. If Marco has trouble with baths, that would explain his "you never have to bathe alone" comment in "Mr. Candle Cares." When you think about it, Star and Janna heard everything, too.



Episode 0214: Bon Bon the Birthday Clown

Star accidentally double-books herself to go to a dance with Marco and a dead clown séance with Janna. But it's okay since Marco gets a date with Jackie instead. Except it's not really okay after all. And then nothing is okay. Features special guest Tom Kenny doing his Spongebob Squarepants voice as Bon Bon.

Fun facts: Based on the sign and the size of the crowd, the whole town turned out to watch Bon Bon. You can count them. Keep track of every time you see or hear about a rat; all of them are significant. This is the first episode to state Marco's mom's name, Angie. Listen carefully, because this episode is full of callbacks to "Mewberty," "Blood Moon Ball," and "Star on Wheels." The composer, Brian H. Kim, is the singer for "Waiting for Me." The All-Seeing Eye first appeared in "Mewnipendance Day."

Food for thought: Janna's lack of reaction when Marco gets ready for the dance pretty much confirms that she only flirts with Marco because it bugs him. Star powers the spying spell with pink energy, but the border is purple-black shot through with yellow. "No one's at their best when they're...distracted!"



Following "Bon Bon," Disney XD released all the remaining Star season 2 episodes in a big bomb called Starbruary. As such, there's only one official poster for the whole bunch. Still, there are a few semi-official posters for a few of them, so I'll add them if they exist.



Episode 0215a: Raid the Cave

After the fallout of "Bon Bon," Star decides it's time to go after Ludo directly. But when she reaches his hideout, Star doesn't find what she was expecting.

Fun facts: Bubble tea is a Taiwanese/East Asian drink often (but not always) made with tea, milk, and tapioca balls. Star rides to the cave on the warnicorn mare who was screaming "PAIN!" with Rock in "Spider with a Top Hat." Tiara Tornado is from season 1, but Star never used it since the "pirates" of "The Banagic Incident" interrupted her. This episode marks the first time Star dips down for someone other than Marco.

Food for thought: Notice that Star goes to Buff Frog for help even though she isn't aware that he knows where Ludo is. Remember that a certain someone casually put his hand through a Mewni mirror in "Storm the Castle."

Episode 0215b: Trickstar

Star and Marco go to Sensei's birthday party, but there's something fishy about the party magician, Preston Change-O. When she finds out what Preston's hiding, Star has to decide just how far she'll go to prove herself right. Guest stars Weird Al Yankovic as Preston.

Fun fact: StarFan13 and Janna are among the party guests, along with a few other recognizable faces. Henna is a temporary tattoo dye. Star and Marco write (or finish writing) the guidebook in-universe between this episode and the next one.

Food for thought: I wonder if Blaine is Ingrid's father? Evidently yellow magic energy is joy. Compare and contrast Star's actions and motives in this episode to those of "The Other Exchange Student."

Episode 0216a: Baby

Star's parents are concerned by recent events, so they decide that Star should be evaluated on her magic training. Star's efforts to prove herself lead her to cast a spell infused with both pink and green energy, producing a result that neither type could have managed on its own. Baby is voiced by Melissa Rauch, who plays Bernadette on Big Bang Theory.

Fun facts: Narwhal with an Eyepatch shows up again. Both Marco and Rafael have now said, "Wet ceiling?" I haven't been mentioning references since there are way too many to list, but I wanted to point out this time that the green goop banana is probably a reference to Steins;Gate.

Food for thought: What in the multiverse is Baby and how does she compare to Glossaryck? Is she the daughter of someone important? And is there any significance to her cloud being purple-black? And a thought has occurred to me: where did Glossaryck come from, and why is he tied to the Butterfly Book of Spells? Could any spellbook create a similar being if filled with enough magic spells?

Episode 0216b: Running with Scissors

Marco goes scissor happy with Star's dimensional scissors, so their creator, Hekapoo (a member of the Magic High Commission), takes them away. In response, Marco declares that he'll earn them back no matter how long it takes.

Fun facts: Official launch of the Markapoo ship. The episode after Star fails to levitate an apple she's levitating a baseball, so it's clear she's starting to put some serious effort into her magic studies. Lydia and Willowby plus the sailor from "Star vs. Echo Creek" have joined Sensei's mother in the background at the dog park. Hekapoo's name is probably a reference to Hecate, a Greek goddess associated with crossroads and witchcraft. When Hekapoo opens a dozen portals at once, all of them lead to locations within her realm instead of other dimensions. Remember, both the monster black-green and Mewman pink-blue portals lead to Mewni. Nacho's collar has the number 667 on it, possibly a reference to the Blood Moon Ball. The music in this episode is the composer's favorite sequence of season 2. Marco's login image is the Space Unicorn.

Food for thought: During a special live chat event, Marco (in-character) referred to his time in Hekapoo's realm as a long dream, probably to avoid unfortunate implications. Either way, it's clear he spent zero time in romantic relationships, making it natural that he picks up where he left off on that front. That and any self-confidence he had built up must have flown out the window the moment he stepped through the portal and looked down. Finally, his only fight in the rest of season 2 is with an old woman, so it remains to be seen what all he remembers. As it stands, he does display more maturity in future episodes.

Episode 0217a: Mathmagic

Star gets caught in a Groundhog Day loop with a twist that's centered around a math problem. As such, she needs the help of Magic High Commission member Omnitraxus Prime (voiced by Carl Weathers, aka Apollo Creed).

Fun facts: Janna's backwards sentence is "To get to the other side." Her foreign language sentence is the same in French, and I can personally confirm that her pronunciation is terrible. Listing all the episode callbacks would take up too much space, so just pause the episode every now and then to see stuff like Tom, Naysaya, every outfit Star has ever worn, a Zelda reference, and more. Omnitraxus Prime's name is at least a reference to Optimus Prime, leader of the Autobot Transformers.

Food for thought: Considering the way Star began to merge with her alternate selves towards the end, I can only assume that all of them got the same result on the math question. An episode I'd love to see is an alternate universe where Star and Marco never met and we can see how much they've changed each other: Star is undisciplined, spoiled, and possibly evil while Marco is still the same Safe Kid with a green belt, two loser friends, and an unrequited crush on Jackie-Lynn. Omnitraxus Prime sets up a perfect excuse for this episode to happen, so get on it, showrunners! My god, the Crystal Fields are full of...Stars.

Episode 0217b: The Bounce Lounge

Pony Head has discovered that the Bounce Lounge is closing, so she, Star, and Marco get the Bounce Crew back together to try and save it (or at least have one last night of fun). Bounce Crew member Johnny Blowhole is played by Pauly Shore, and Millie Sparkles is played by Constance Shulman, who used to play Patti Mayonnaise on Doug and now plays Yoga Jones on Orange Is the New Black.

Fun facts: This is the first time we've been to the sea bunny ship from the intro sequence, although a couple sea bunnies were at King Butterfly's party in "Royal Pain." Despite what happens to him, enough of the bunny captain survives to join the party at the Bounce Lounge. Johnny Blowhole's first appearance was technically in the first issue of the Star vs. comic series.

Food for thought: Pony Head is insensitive in general, but she honestly has a point when it comes to Kelly and Tad. Star's wand flashes orange when she zaps the bunny captain, but that could just be because she created something orange.



Episode 0218a: Crystal Clear

Star involuntarily meets the last two members of the Magic High Commission, Rhombulus and Chancellor Lekmet, when Rhombulus gets a gut feeling that Star is responsible for the interdimensional fritz.

Fun facts: Marco's woobie is apparently a bunny. Rhombulus gets his name from the rhombus (a reference to his crystalline form) and Romulus, the legendary founder of Rome. Lekmet takes his appearance from the classic goat-demon illustration of Baphomet, but his name is closer to Sekhmet, the Egyptian goddess of protection and healing. Both references are probably intended. Rhombulus is the only being in the show so far who can understand an unintelligible character. A certain somebody from "Into the Wand" appears in the background at one point, but there's something off about her arm.

Food for thought: At least two storyboarders have mentioned that they think Rhombulus and Lekmet are more than just roommates or liege and servant, but it's hard to say just how confirmed this will ever be in the show (assuming they're right). I very much doubt the Star who began season 1 could have been the adult in the room the way she is in this episode.

Episode 0218b: The Hard Way

We finally see what Ludo has been up to recently. Mostly it involves learning to cast new spells with his wand.

Fun facts: This is the second episode to not feature Star or Marco at all. The paper's name is Mewninews. When Ludo practices, the cloud that poofs in the apples is pink, which is not the color Baby's apples used. "What's an imagination?" Ludo asks, having named his pets "Bird" and "Arachnid." When Ludo returns to a childlike state of joy, his season 1 theremin returns. The green swirl first appeared in "Crystal Clear." A character who never laughed once in the first season chortles at the end of this episode.

Food for Thought: "The hard way" last appeared in "My New Wand." Makes me wonder if there are any hidden parallels beyond a thematic link.

Episode 0219a: Heinous

Miss Heinous finally moves directly against Princess Marco, getting his parents involved in the process. Rafael and Angie aren't sure what to make of their son the rebel princess, but they want the disagreement to wrap up before the Morrisons come over for dinner.

Fun facts: Official launch of the Princess Geminarco ship. "Gemini" is probably a pun name based on the gem in his eye. Star's wand glows yellow this time. This episode confirms that complete regeneration is a lizardfolk racial ability (the name of the lizardfolk race, Septarian, has appeared in the guidebook but not in the show). When Heinous makes her first suggestion, she uses the word "annihilate" since that's the verb she was looking for in "St. Olga's." Her sedan is only the second flying car in the series since Hungry Larry left in one at the end of his episode.

Food for thought: Compare Star's plan in this episode with her plan in "Storm the Castle." Funny how Star and Marco manage to count down simultaneously despite being on either side of the house. Consider that Ludo's rise to power seems to parallel Miss Heinous' fall from grace. So are hand mirrors Mewni's tablet computers? Marco's video is subversive in more ways than one if you think about it.

Episode 0219b: All Belts Are Off

When Sensei needs a top student to represent the dojo in front of the How To Karate Grandmaster, he chooses Jeremy over Marco. Marco knows Jeremy is a terrible example of karate virtues, but he has to decide just how far he'll go to prove himself right.

Fun facts: Comparing the colors to Sensei's VHS tapes, Jeremy is the only student with a higher belt degree than Marco. "Sir Racha." The last time Marco tried to break three boards, it didn't go well for him. Sure, he used his hand the first time, but a descending kick is relatively weak. That...stuff is not ice cream. The "Jeremy Is Awesome" song is a rare case of the composer coming up with a joke. The singer is Keith Ferguson, who played Bloo in Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends and Lord Hater in Wander Over Yonder. Keep in mind the name "Jeremy" is on every wall when you consider how much the Grandmaster really cares.

Food for thought: Does Werewolf Guy just like playing the birthday card or something? Because it hasn't been a year since "Pizza Thing." After everything she's done in the series, it makes sense that Star wouldn't have a problem with Marco acting like a creep. Compare Marco's choice at the end with how he responded to Jeremy in "Monster Arm," "Cheer Up Star," and "The Banagic Incident." I figure Sensei's comment near the end is pointing out that a lot of kids shows use miscommunication between friends to drive the conflict. Hell, TV shows in general.

Episode 0220a: Collateral Damage

Star is feeling down and keeps herself busy by picking up trash at the Echo Creek Academy, but she accidentally uses her wand to ruin the school mascot, a possum statue named Otis. Over the next few days, she desperately tries to make it up to the students and staff with some very obvious parallels to her own situation.

Fun fact: Looks like Mr. Candle is still the school's guidance counselor, which means either he likes the job or Tom wants to keep an eye on Star and Marco.

Food for thought: Star's wand uses blue energy in this episode, and it seems likely that it represents sorrow and regret. If that's the case, what does it say about Moon that blue is her energy of choice? And that Star's wand flashes blue and pink in the season 3 intro? Speaking of which, it looks like Marco has become the exchange student in season 3, so this may have been the last hurrah of Echo Creek Academy. Not that we've seen the last of all its students, but we may have to say farewell to the school itself.



Episode 0220b: Just Friends

Star decides it's high time to include Jackie in her and Marco's fun times together, so she gets them all tickets to see Love Sentence. Nick Lachey returns as Justin Towers.

Fun facts: Marco's shirt is too small while Star's collar is too big, implying she might have mixed up who got which one. All three characters have a "third wheel" moment over the course of the episode, and they each respond differently thanks to their different personalities and relationships. The big kissing moment depicts not one but several same-sex kisses you can see if you pause at the right moments. Many of the couples are ambiguously gendered, so it's hard to say how many there are exactly. Composer Brian H. Kim sings the reprisal at the end of the episode, technically making him one of the other members of Love Sentence.

Food for thought: Was Jackie joking when she said she also lived by the river, or was she serious? And what does that imply about her backstory?



Episode 0221: Face the Music

Star must work with the new court songstrel Ruberiot (voiced by Patrick Stump, vocalist of Fall Out Boy) to create her Princess Song, her official introduction to the people of Mewni. However, Star is far from happy considering all the cheesy, meaningless Princess Songs that came before hers. Meanwhile, Queen Moon has decided it's high time to track down Ludo, so she starts with the people who would know Ludo the best. One of the surprise guests is voiced by Atticus Shaffer, who plays Eden Sher's kid brother in The Middle.

Fun facts: We haven't seen the royal manticores since the first episode. The Forest of Certain Death still bears the marks of Marco's passing. During the Song Day establishing shot, two men with a young daughter pass through the foreground.

Food for thought: The theme of wealth disparity comes roaring back into prominence in this episode. Why do you think Lady Avarius keeps her right eye closed throughout the episode? Is a Disney show actually implying she's in an abusive relationship?



Episode 0222: Starcrushed

It's the end of the school year, but Marco and Star don't feel like celebrating thanks to an awkward moment in Ruberiot's Princess Song. Meanwhile, Queen Moon gathers the Magic High Commission to put a stop to Ludo's rising threat once and for all.

Fun facts: The girl with all the casts is Sabrina, the cheerleader who kept getting into accidents in the first season. I guess Rhombulus can understand any incomprehensible character since he's the one interrogating the rats. Star keeps getting inspired by photographs. Marco is good at catching food in his mouth because he spent a year practicing with "Gustav." All things considered, Star indirectly saves her mother's life. In some sense, Oskar's keytar does reach Mars: Marco's name comes from Marcus, which (probably) comes from the Roman god of war.

Food for thought: Thanks to Star, Marco has gone from being "the Safe Kid" with two lame friends to hosting one of the biggest end-of-school parties in Echo Creek. How did Oskar get his car onto the roof of the Stop 'n Slurp? It's interesting how Marco and Jackie act and think differently but Marco and Star think the same, even when they say different things. Jackie is the only major character to not have any real character flaws, but her odd intensity during the mind-reading scene makes me think there may be more to her than "chill skater chick." If pink is best at creation and green is best for destruction, I would hazard a hypothesis that blue is telekinesis/force magic while yellow is for healing. You can hear a prepared piano under the last two notes of the fight scene music.

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Acebuckeye13 posted:

Also, we now have an official promo poster for the TV movie:



The butterfly lens flare is a nice touch, but I find myself wondering who that little dude in the jester cap is.

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OH DEAR LORD THEY'RE TALKING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tShmwoCR-zM

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Acebuckeye13 posted:

Yeah, I figure it's for the best, especially since some of the most recent previews have had some major spoilers in them.

If the season 2 promos are any indication, I suspect that there are two major revelations for every one in the promos. I also suspect we haven't seen a single frame from the "Toffee" part.

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I knew yellow was joy magic!

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Mraagvpeine posted:

One thing is a little unclear to me. Was the whole reason why Toffee screwed over everyone and magic itself simply to get his finger back?

He broke the back of Mewman magic and used Ludo to take over the Butterfly Kingdom. That was also part of his plan since he guided Ludo along every step of the way, and he probably would have commanded the rats to kill everyone in the crater if Star hadn't Kamehameha'd him. The finger was just so he could regrow his old body since it was a piece of his original self. The second Whispering Spell wasn't part of his plan, either (he'd have fought Moon off and ransomed Star the regular way), but he made good use of the opportunity.

PS: If you're a Star fan and you haven't watched Battle for Mewni yet, I'd suggest avoiding YouTube because my recommended list is full of spoilers.

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Acebuckeye13 posted:

I don't think Toffee is gone though, not completely. He's probably dead, but we still don't know what his real end goal was, and what the lasting effects will be.

To conquer the Butterfly Kingdom, which required him to end the threat of Butterfly magic. Toffee's goals aren't nearly as complicated as his plans.

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Kurui Reiten posted:

I think what kinda gets me is that at the end, Star getting a tiny morsel of magic from the pot is enough to let her reform her wand, reconstitute her body, go full on Super Butterfly 3, and cast DIE on Toffee, all in like one smooth motion. Meanwhile, to get a spell to disable his immortality, Moon had to go to the Queen that had to be imprisoned, make a pact with her, chant an entire spell, apparently taint her body, and hit him in the heart (which she missed, but still). Star just blasted out a massive rear end beam and skipped all that, with a speck of magic.

Yeah, it's a great ending, but I hope we get a little more explanation on what exactly that was all about. So far, it doesn't make Eclipsa look very threatening, since her spell was pretty much blown out of the water by a relative novice with less power.

You also have to account for where they were at the time and what this represented. That morsel of magic was a new unicorn, a new power source that could revive her wand and let her restore the magic ocean Toffee corrupted. You'll note that her presence was restoring magic a bit at a time, so between her getting a power source and Toffee leaving I could see the process speeding up significantly. She also found that morsel by going to the magic ocean (something someone must have done if Toffee knew he could stay put during the explosion), diving down, and finding a place so deep that even Glossaryck had no idea where or what it was.

To make an analogy, Moon borrowed a helicopter from her grandmother, learned how to pilot it, and then flew from the base of a cliff to its top. When she tried again at the end, the helicopter failed to fly because Toffee had put sugar in the whole fuel supply. Not the gas tank, but the world's fuel supply. Star not only found out how to purify the fuel on her own, she also created a jet pack that could go twice as high twice as fast with no need to learn a helicopter's controls.

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Acebuckeye13 posted:

I really enjoyed seeing how Moon's character was exposed during the special. Throughout the rest of the show, she'd been presented as a stern, disciplined woman who, though she clearly loves her daughter, is often emotionally distant. There were a few cracks in the facade in episodes like Storm the Castle and Baby, but for the most part Star's mother was very much a stereotypical queen figure.

And then, across these handful of episodes, it's all laid bare-she doesn't have all the answers, she doesn't know what the right thing to do is, and at her core she's still a scarred, emotionally traumatized girl who lost her mother at a young age and cannot stand to even think of losing her daughter-and when she thinks she has, she's reduced to nothing but helpless sadness and rage. There's just a ton of stuff going on with her character, and I'm excited to see how they'll continue to develop her and her relationship with Star in the future.

I've noticed a bunch of folks have been itching for a Star corruption arc where she falls to temptation (temporarily, of course), but I never really saw how it could fit with her character growth. Star was tempted many times over the second season, but she always pulled back as soon as she realized she was getting too close to the edge.

On the other hand, Moon has suffered a deep trauma, she's enough of a stubborn leader to think that she has to do everything herself no matter what that might entail, she has much less magical power she could use to accomplish her goals without using evil magic, and (most importantly) she's already gone farther than Star in making a deal with the Queen of Darkness, a deal that has marked her arms and her cheeks. I think Moon falling to the dark side would be both more plausible and more interesting.

Or, wild card option, Miss Heinous has been denying her Butterfly heritage because she'd immediately fall to the dark side if she acknowledged it.

By the way, what's the over/under on Eclipsa being the one who offed her mother?

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Space Cadet Omoly posted:

I dunno...Eclipsa was frozen in a crystal when Moon's mother was killed, that's a pretty good alibi.

Offed her own mother. Eclipsa said her own mother died when she was young, too, but not how it happened.

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Inkspot posted:

These episodes kind of struck me with how many different characters mentioned "death", or that people were "dead" or "dying." We've come a long way from Gundam Wing's "I will end you..." nonsense.

And Ludo choosing to be thrown into the void... Godspeed, you awful, little birdman.

I remember the creators of Gargoyles had to fight Disney to let Goliath say something like "I will track the Hunter down, and I will kill him." This was just after the Hunter had (as far as Goliath knew) killed his daughter, and he didn't even kill him in the end.

20 years later, Star Butterfly casually suggests killing Toffee and then smiles when she finally has the chance to literally melt his face off.

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Inescapable Duck posted:

However, Glossaryck specifically mentioned that Eclipsa was the only one who never questioned his teachings.

He said she was the only one to "leave me be" after passing the book and the wand on to her daughter. This might have been simple neglect as she ignored her Mewman daughter to run away with a monster.

By the way, consider that scene in "Page Turner" again with the knowledge that everyone in that room knew that Moon couldn't be trusted alone with that chapter.

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With Toffee's story tentatively over, I feel like it would be helpful to write out a timeline of how his plans and motives changed and evolved over time. There are still some loose ends here and there (so what's his real name?), but I think his story can at least be theoretically tied up.

  • Toffee became a lizard general in the monster army back during the last Monster-Mewman War. Based on Star's pop-up book, this was far from the first time the two races had clashed.
  • The war went badly for the monsters and their leader was prepared to sign a peace treaty, but Toffee wasn't ready to give up. He's practically immortal, after all, and much of his army is too. As such, he betrays his ruler and breaks the armistice in order to stab Moon's mother in the back and deal a serious blow to Mewni.
  • When Moon comes to his camp, Toffee believes she can't possibly have enough magic skill to kill him, so he watches, amused, as she tries her little parlor trick. But when she (purposefully, watch her eyes) shoots his finger off and it doesn't come back, he is no longer amused.
  • Monsters aren't exactly the brightest or most courageous bunch (at least if Ludo's goons are any indication), so when they see Moon can and will murder them all, regeneration or not, they flee. With no army at his back and his own life at risk, Toffee leaves in a huff.
  • Toffee knows he'll only get the same result if he goes up against Moon again, especially after Moon crushes the army remnants and the monster leader signs the peace treaty. As such, he bides his time and spends what's probably around two decades researching Mewni magic. This is probably when and how he learns about stuff like the Whispering Spell and the fact that it can blast you to the Source of Magic, let you communicate through a wand, and affect the real world to a limited extent. This all must have happened to someone else first, someone who wrote it all down (and probably went through an episode-worthy story).
  • Toffee also probably learned about the tradition of handing down the wand to the princess and that Eclipsa's chapter in the Book of Spells has a nasty habit of turning people into magical conduits.
  • Toffee watches as Star grows up and Ludo becomes her bumbling arch-nemesis. While he was uninterested in taking part before since doing so might have tipped off Moon, Toffee takes the first opportunity to insinuate himself into Ludo's crew after Star gets the wand. This is, after all, when the wand is most vulnerable.
  • Toffee notices that Buff Frog is the only monster smart enough to be suspicious of him, so he gives him a portal mace that either only works for him or only works on Mewni and convinces Ludo to fire him when he inevitably fails.
  • Toffee slowly endears himself to the rest of Ludo's crew, and once Ludo fails badly enough he takes the opportunity to talk the other monsters into letting him take over.
  • Now that he has Ludo's resources at his complete disposal, Toffee puts his long-awaited plan into action. He uses Ludo's goons to the best of their abilities (a skill he demonstrated during "Fortune Cookies") and sets up a magic-resistant cage so he can use Marco as a hostage. The cage material was probably another fruit of his research.
  • Star dipping down wasn't something Toffee expected, but fortunately for him it didn't matter thanks to the cage material. He gets Star to use the Whispering Spell and lets it blast him into the Source of Magic.
  • Toffee begins corrupting the Source with his hate and anger, slowly making it ineffective for anything except destruction. He melts into it either willingly or because magic has some sort of caustic property.
  • Toffee knows that Star has a new wand because the Source links to both of them. However, its solid design means he can only really affect the unicorn inside and strengthen Star's connection to green magic.
  • Reaching out with his new magical senses, Toffee discovers Ludo floating in the void and figures he can use him as a cat's paw again. He opens a portal to Mewni and throws a green blast of energy to push Ludo through.
  • Once Ludo gets his feet under him, Toffee sends a vision of Star to lure Ludo to the second crystal half, a crystal half he turned into a wand using a handy piece of flint and the bones of his own right arm.
  • Toffee calmly waits for Ludo to learn how to power his wand, because at that point Toffee can speak to him directly. He obliquely suggests that Ludo should steal Star's book (Ludo takes "steal her wisdom" literally since he has no imagination, but it's obvious what Toffee meant in hindsight).
  • Ludo uses the rats he cowed to smuggle corn and create his own fields, with Toffee advising him every step along the way. Later, this develops into an operation that uses monsters as mostly coerced help and involves setting up a miniature Butterfly Castle so the rats can learn its streets and train to infiltrate the Mewni capital. Presumably Toffee doesn't trust monsters after they abandoned him on the battlefield.
  • When Buff Frog shows up, Toffee figures he could get BF's help since he was so loyal to Ludo. It doesn't go the way he hoped, though.
  • With Buff Frog aware of Ludo's operation and very possibly working with the royal family, Toffee tells Ludo to abandon the caves and set up his new headquarters at an ancient monster temple. At some point after this, Dennis spots Ludo during a flight through the mountains.
  • Being connected to both wands and the Source of Magic, Toffee is aware of the moment when Star brings his finger out of the wand. He realizes this could be the best way for him to regain a physical form, but there's nothing he can do about that yet.
  • Toffee (through Ludo) sends rats to Earth to spy on Star. When Toffee realizes that Star is distracted by her feelings for Marco on the night of Bon Bon's death day, he gets Ludo to ambush her when she's at her weakest. Presumably this need to relay information and prepare the clown costume is why several hours pass between Star going to the graveyard and Ludo appearing.
  • Toffee figures Glossaryck will be loyal to the Butterflys and uncooperative, but Glossaryck surprises him by being forthcoming. As such, he steps back until Ludo gives Toffee an opening to manipulate his insecurities and talk him into reading Eclipsa's chapter and becoming a magic conduit. With that done, Toffee can now possess Ludo directly, but he continues to let Ludo stay himself most of the time. This may be because possession is taxing, Ludo's minions would be suspicious of a personality change, or both. Incidentally, Toffee knows Glossaryck because he's been watching this whole time and Glossaryck knows Toffee because the dude killed a Butterfly.
  • As the Book of Spells' new official owner, Toffee orders Glossaryck to hide himself where no one can find him. This is both to prevent Ludo from becoming too powerful and to keep him out of the way during the inevitable Butterfly reprisal. Glossaryck is able to do this (and make it look easy) because he's practically omniscient. He also creates a fake copy to distract them, but it's mostly unneeded since Moon decides to talk to Ludo one-on-one.
  • When Moon and the Commission arrive, Toffee waits for an opportunity to ambush them, an opportunity that comes when the Commission leaves Moon alone with Ludo. He can then curbstomp the Commission because they are Mewni magic creations, Mewni magic has weakened from his corrupting influence, and he's pretty much made of the stuff at this point.
  • Toffee takes a moment to fuse the wand with Ludo's arm, both to control him more easily and to prepare for the later finger exchange.
  • When Moon revives, she's only able to keep him at bay because she's weakened too, she was never that strong in magic in the first place, and Moon would rather avoid using the Darkest Spell chant.
  • Toffee brings up Star and his finger to psyche Moon out, which works out better for him than he probably expected. Not that it matters much with magic almost completely corrupted after he drained the Magic High Commission.
  • With Moon in hiding and the Commission out of commission, Toffee wants to move immediately to conquer Butterfly Castle. He can't stop Ludo from getting all huffy with the Book of Spells (which may in the end have followed Glossaryck's agenda), but after the book burns he gets Ludo to stop wasting time.
  • The conquest of Mewni turns out even easier than Toffee had expected: the magic defenses are down because of him, but all the soldiers are also partied out because River is a terrible king who forgot the "safe" part of "happy and safe."
  • With the battle over and Ludo in charge, Toffee starts driving him even more insane than usual. This is probably to make it easier for him to step in and take over once he gets the chance to regenerate his body.
  • When Star shows up, Toffee captures her so he can ransom her for his finger.
  • When Star starts to realize that Toffee is in the wand/Source of Magic, he avoids contradicting her or telling Ludo to stop her. This is probably to avoid suspicion and also because he feels confident in his control of the Source. Whether she dies in the Source or in the dungeon makes no difference to him, and he figures she'll be equally unable to stop him either way.
  • The ransom exchange takes place, and Toffee uses the wand to reunite his body and spirit once more. Between his invulnerability, the complete corruption of magic, and the fact that he's still partly made out of corrupted magical energy, he has nothing to fear from Moon, Marco, or anyone.
  • Toffee's final step would probably have been to convince the rats to obey him directly and take complete control over Butterfly Castle and the capital of Mewni. Unfortunately, that's when Glossaryck's long-term plan paid off (Star found a brown seed that glowed yellow which Glossaryck was only able to create over the flames of the burning book) and Super ButterFly 3 Star hit him with a full-bore Joy blast.

That sure is a lot of steps, but then half of it he made up as he went along.

TLDR: The only reason Toffee failed is because he figured Star would only be as powerful as her mother.

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Acebuckeye13 posted:

The most important info, though, was the news that the next episodes will begin airing... in November :negative:

At least it's four months instead of five this time. Plus the cliffhanger isn't nearly as painful.

Inescapable Duck posted:

Interesting how Super Saiyan Star managed to mortally wound Toffee. I presume either Toffee was weakened from corrupting all the magic, or her spell overwhelmed his healing ability until it burnt out. Or maybe Moon's spell actually worked enough to disable it.

I have a theory that healing yellow magic is directly opposed to the corrupted goo he became. He was basically a goo lich by the end, and as we all know healing magic is harmful to the undead. Remember, he had the opportunity to absorb Lekmet along with the others during the big battle, but he didn't. Killing another Butterfly would have worked into his plans nicely, so perhaps he left Lekmet alone because he couldn't afford to absorb his yellow magic.

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Rewatching the movie yet again, this time in glorious HD, and I'm noticing a few things. 1: every time we see Queen Moon (with one exception in "Mr. Candle Cares"), she's wearing gloves that go up past her elbows. This would imply that the marks on her arms from casting the Darkest Spell the first time never went away.

2: in "Book Be Gone," I spotted this:



3: I can't believe Ariel is loving dead:



4: Cowsheep to go with the piggoats:



5: Unicorn kitties!



6: *Gasp* Triangle food!

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Inescapable Duck posted:

Moon and Buff Frog's board game does serve to illustrate that Mewmans and Monsters have spent centuries demonising each other, to the point where it takes them a bit to realise the other might not be inherently bad. Though Moon actually got along with Ludo's mother. Maybe it's classism at play there, at least they're monster nobility, not monster commoners. And we've seen how heavily class-segregated Mewni is.

There's also the fact that she didn't have to stay at the Avarius home. I feel like she didn't want to touch anything while she was there.

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Inescapable Duck posted:

The whole implication of that scene seemed to be, one way or another, his regeneration has stopped working. Hell, his flesh is literally melting off his bones.

If Toffee somehow survives that, it's going to be as something very different.

Yeah, I figure if he comes back again it'll be as some kind of hideous goo monster who can never resume his old shape thanks to all the damage he took. Or, as a twist, the protagonists have to find some way to resurrect him to reverse Moon's contract and refreeze Eclipsa. It doesn't feel like that'll be the case since Toffee isn't the sort of person who would accept a redemption arc, but I'm throwing out all the possibilities I can think of here.

Speaking of, here's another thought I had: more flashback episodes. We get to find out more of Toffee's backstory and motivations, maybe learn how he found the information he used to cleave the wand and orchestrate Ludo's rise to power, and we get an excuse to see young Moon and River again.

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DarklyDreaming posted:

Melted Toffee? Though I'm not sure what the flavor text would be

"At least he's not banana flavor."

"What do you call a lizard with a sick rhyme? A rap-tile!"

"Turns out ya dead!"

"Welcome to Disney XD!"

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Skippy McPants posted:

This is abuse.

Butterflies are not supposed to eat chocolate!

You try stopping her.

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Acebuckeye13 posted:

And we've got our SDCC preview:



First, new outfit. Looks like it's a cross between the Mewnian style worn by Queen Moon and Star's earth dresses, which is probably a signifier of the changed status quo now that Star's not living on Earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80czcfCpq9Y

Next, looks like a flashback episode to when Star first started going out with Tom. It'll be interesting to see how much they go into what their relationship was like, and what it means for Star, Tom, and Marco in the future.

New outfit has a narwhal making it automatically the best.

I note that Queen Moon has those curly bidoos she stops wearing in season 2, which is a good clue that this is a flashback.

Also, Tom has (I suspect) one hell of a mother.

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Acebuckeye13 posted:

I've seen speculation that the guy King River is wrestling in the clip is Tom's dad, which would mean that Greg Universe has finally found a kindred spirit :v:

One other thing I've seen mentioned is that, if the clip is a flashback, it puts Blood Moon Ball in a whole new light. This whole time, we've been assuming that Tom was trying to manipulate Star into dancing with him under the Blood Moon so that their souls would be bonded, in an attempt to forcibly get back together with her. With this clip in mind, though, it's possible that wasn't the case (Or at least, not completely), and that Tom was instead genuinely trying to rekindle the relationship by reminding Star of what got them together in the first place.

And why he took it so personally when he saw Star dancing with someone else and loving every second of it.

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Acebuckeye13 posted:

Well, the big difference from those examples is that those intros were both focused around their one-off theme, whereas only the brief Ludo sequence in the new intro has anything to do with the Battle for Mewni. But, looking the intro back over, it is possible the shot of Ludo was meant to be temporary-the sequence jumps from Star and Marco in the crystal dimension, to Ludo hanging out in front of the moon, and then back to Star and Marco amidst the crystals. It's a bit of a weird sequence break, and I could easily believe that once the episodes begin airing again in November that they'll transition to a shot of Eclipsa instead of Ludo, in addition to an updated logo.

It's also good trolling if you think about it. All that fuss over the leak of the new intro among the fans and it turns out the intro (at least this version of it) was only for the first four episodes...

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Theorycrafting: Toffee and the Prophecy

There's been this theory buzzing through my head for a while now, and I think I've brought together enough pieces to create a picture. Absolutely zero of this could be true, but I figure it holds together fairly well and it's interesting enough to share.

So here's the central theory: during his decades of research, Toffee happened across a prophecy that foretold great destruction and involved Star and Marco. This prophecy hinges on Mewman magic existing, so Toffee decided to get rid of it and avoid the destruction entirely. Mind you he also wanted revenge for his humiliation and to get his finger so he could reform his body once he had corrupted all Mewman magic, so he wasn't some misunderstood good guy this whole time. He simply had some additional motives that help explain some otherwise unexplained moments.

Point 1: The strange room in St. Olga's



On the ceiling there's a skylight which appears to be a portal through which a bunch of flying demon-monsters are pouring forth. These look like no Mewman monsters we've seen, and Tom's people have no wings. Plus many have three eyes and don't need wings to fly. Therefore, this is an as-yet unknown invading force.



Opposing the mural on the ceiling is a crescent moon that surrounds a star and a sun. Star and Marco, united by the Blood Moon? Marco isn't much of a sun at the moment, but that could change. There are also symbols in the surrounding border, possibly representing their friends and allies.

Point 2: "You're a disappointment." "Yeah? Well, you're boring."



Toffee seems to expect more from the kid the other monsters only know as "Karate Boy." His stoic facade even cracks for a second when Marco calls him boring. Coming from Star's unusually competent but otherwise ordinary friend, those words would be meaningless, but coming from a person Toffee knows is a Chosen One those words would carry some weight. On top of that, he spares Marco's life even though we know for a fact that honor means absolutely nothing to him. Could Toffee have spared Marco because the boy would be needed for the prophecy if his own plan didn't pan out?

Point 3: "Okay, so my hand says I can't destroy you, so I have to put you in the dungeon."



If Toffee is playing it safe by not killing Marco, this would also explain why he spares Star during "Toffee." I assumed he wanted to keep her alive for the sake of ransom, but he could have possessed Ludo, overpowered the now-helpless queen, and taken his finger by force instead. He also didn't finish Star off when she is completely in his power in the Source. If he doesn't care so much about getting her out (assuming he even knew how), it would be because he thinks at that point that he had won and averted the prophecy all at once.

Point 4: "You think you've won? Ha! You don't make the plans! I do! Me! Only I know how this all turns out!"



It seems like Toffee is referring to himself and his own plans here, but what if he's not, or at least his first and last sentences aren't? What if he's talking about the prophecy and the coming destruction? And what if the protagonists will have to resurrect Toffee to find out what that prophecy says?

Again, these are just some thoughts I wanted to share since it means I get to be smug if it turns out I'm right later. But if I'm not, it'll just be one more for the pile of off-base speculations.

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Acebuckeye13 posted:

I think it's definitely possible there might very well be prophecy shenanigans going around in the background, given the weird room at Saint Olga's that you pointed out and the card suites in the Grandma Room from Into the Wand. Honestly though, I kinda hope there isn't, since it's pretty rare that prophecy plots are actually done well, and I also feel it would take away from the show's encouragement of going against the grain and breaking out from traditionally established behaviors and roles.

With that said, there's definitely a lot to consider about the room from St. O's. One big thing I'm surprised you didn't notice is that the room is encircled with busts of crocodile heads, which could definitely tie in to a connection with Toffee or the Septarians in general (Gotta wonder if Rasticore is just a hired merc or if he has a longer history with Heinous). Another connection I thought of a while ago as well is that, rather than the floor tiling being a reference to the Blood Moon, it's actually an eclipse-and when you factor in that the demons in the roof mural also bear a potential resemblance to Eclipsa's monster husband, I think there's definitely a solid argument to be made that there's a connection of some kind between St. Olga's (The building at least) and Eclipsa.

Half the busts have bat wings, and they're sufficiently similar to the creature with the long snout that I'm not sure they represent a third party. Plus the way the arches meet at the heads suggest horns. As for Eclipsa, the traditional symbol for an eclipse would be a circle within a circle rather than a crescent, plus her monster husband doesn't really resemble the mural creatures: he has four eyes, no wings, small horns, no tail, and a much heavier build. If he's even still around, it's not likely at all that he's connected to the invaders.

As for prophecies, my personal favorite approach is when they're treated as recipes you can follow to get a result rather than visions of an inevitable future. Gravity Falls took that approach when Stanford tried and failed to create that magic circle to stop Bill Cypher. That may be the approach that's in play here if a guy as smart as Toffee thought he could avoid the prophecy entirely by removing a key ingredient.

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Acebuckeye13 posted:

Brian H. Kim has also been releasing numerous music tracks from the special:

You missed one.

Thought We'd Never See Each Other posted:

From Star vs. the Forces of Evil - The Battle for Mewni (Toffee).

The hug heard ‘round the world.

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