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kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Hey guys, we made it into June before the carousel started!

Fired/Hired

pre:
School           Old                 Hired              Notes
Oklahoma         Bob Stoops          Lincoln Riley
Ole Miss         Hugh Freeze         Matt Luke
UCLA             Jim Mora            Chip Kelly
Tennessee        Butch Jones         Jeremy Pruitt
Arkansas         Bret Beliema        Chad Morris
Florida          Jim McElwain        Dan Mullen
Arizona State    Todd Graham         Herm Edwards
Oregon State     Gary Andersen       Johnathan Smith
Nebraska         Mike Riley          Scott Frost
Georgia Southern Tyson Summers       Chad Lunsford
South Alabama    Joey Jones          Steve Campbell
UTEP             Sean Kugler         Dana Dimel
Kent State       Paul Haynes         
Texas A&M        Kevin Sumlin        Jimbo Fisher
Miss State       Dan Mullen          Joe Moorehead
Florida State    Jimbo Fisher        Willie Taggart
Central Florida  Scott Frost         Josh Heupel
Oregon           Willie Taggart      Mario Cristobal
SMU              Chad Morris
ULaLa            Mark Hudspeth
Links

fired/retired
6/07 - Bob Stoops, retires to spend time with his still functioning heart
7/20 - Hugh Freeze got caught with his hand in the bag o' cash
10/1 - Sean Kugler resigns after sucking.
10/9 - Gary Andersen follows Sean Kugler's lead, resigns.
10/22 - Georgia Southern fires their terrible coach
10/29 - Jim McElwain is an offensive coach with a lovely offense
11/12 - Butch Jones officially fired.
11/20 - South Alabama's only coach fired
11/22 - Paul Haynes is a lovely coach at a lovely school
11/25 - Nebraska continues their fall from grace, fires Mike Riley
11/25 - Bret Bielema is a fat jobless idiot
11/26 - ASU fired after going 7-5, 6-3
11/26 - Kevin Sumlin officially out
12/3 - Mark Hudspeth not good enough for U La La


hired
6/07 - Lincoln Riley chosen as Stoops successor
11/25 - Chip Kelly back in the Pac-12
11/26 - Dan Mullen hired at Florida
11/26 - Matt Luke official HC at Ole Miss
11/28 - Clanga HC hired away, make good, interesting hire in a couple of days
11/28 - Georgia Southern quietly takes interim label off Chad Lunsford
11/29 - Oregon State hires alumni Johnathan Smith from Washington
12/1 - Jimbo Fisher to... Aggie?
12/2 - Surprising absolutely no one, Nebraska hires Scott Frost
12/4 - Herm Edwards! Hahahahahaha
12/5 - Moving quickly, Florida State lands Willie Taggart
12/5 - UCF announces Josh Heupel 3 days after losing Scott Frost
12/7 - Tennessee falls rear end backwards into a Saban DC
12/7 - Arkansas hires SMU coach Chad Morris after he goes 14-22 in his previous 3 years
12/7 - South Alabama dips into FCS ranks to hire Steve Campbell
12/7 - UTEP hires guy with winless season at his last HC stop in Dana Dimel
12/8 - Oregon search doesn't go far. Mario Cristobal promoted from interim to head.

kayakyakr fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Dec 8, 2017

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TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”
Well, in the interest of stirring the pot, let's get things started with some Power 5 + Grab bag Hot Seat rankings!


ACC
Atlantic
Boston College - Steve Addazio is signed through 2020 and has had 3 good years with one abominable one in the middle. They're always good for one stupid upset and one completely blown cupcake with the type of low risk-low reward football they play, but it's BC. Only thing that makes me think that Addazio might get fired this year: This is year 2 of the Scot Loeffler experience. He hasn't made it past 2 years in a a job in the last decade. 2/5

Clemson - No 1/5

Florida State - No, though Charles Kelly might get banished to the Sun Belt if their defense is bad enough 1/5

Louisville - No, though this won't stop Petrino from leaving if Lamar does 1/5

NC State - On one hand, they actually have been pretty decent from Doeren's time there, and they've taken some interesting scalps like ND. On the other hand, they're in a division with 3 of the best 4 teams in the ACC and are probably limited to a 9 win peak as a result. Factor in that they play a really improved Syracuse and Wake, and they don't have an easy walk. Seems to have higher expectations than the floor of the conference which could get him fired. 3/5

Syracuse - Will play Big 12 football and be really exciting. Looked vastly improved, and Babers is young/has some good will. Honestly may be a candidate to get hired away by someone else. 1/5.

Wake Forest - Dave Clawson came close to an 8-win season last year. However, they're still in this division and probably limited in their ceiling as a result. Probably can survive a down year, but may get turfed/be the worst team in this division 3/5

Coastal
Duke - Cutcliffe is probably the best coach in program history outside of maybe Spurrier and will leave this job on his terms 1/5

Georgia Tech - Paul Johnson is pretty well ingrained and would need a really bad year to be fired, but he might honestly be the least safe coach in this division even with that weirdly enough. 2/5

Miami - Richt will be given all the time he wants and already is showing promise 1/5

North Carolina - Fedora isn't going to be touched 1/5

Pittsburgh - Narduzzi is safe for at least another year 1/5

Virginia - Mendenhall is still fresh and safe 1/5

Virginia Tech - Fuente is going nowhere. 1/5


Big 12
Baylor - Rhule is completely untouchable for the time being, or else their program will end up back in the stone age (where it probably belongs) 1/5

Iowa State - Matt Campbell showed a lot of promise and is at no real risk. Gets a better job with a good year I bet. 1/5

Kansas - They're recruiting better and will probably be no worse than they've been the last few years, so Beaty is probably fine 1/5

Kansas State - Bill Snyder will never be fired from K-State, but he's also probably at the end of his coaching life from a health standpoint. Hot seat rating reflects likelihood of him not being the coach next year rather than being fired 3/5

Oklahoma - Riley is in a position where he would need to really bungle this to get fired, but it's still wholly possible if they're 8 wins or less. 2/5

Oklahoma State - Gundy is more likely to get fired for being on Pickens' bad side than anything else, should be fine from a football standpoint. 2/5

TCU - Patterson will never be fired here 1/5

Texas - Year one Herman gets all the slack in the world with how bad they wanted Strong gone 1/5

Texas Tech - Kliff must have Kompromat on someone, because I can't believe he's still here. If he weren't an alum, I guarantee he would've been gone last year. 5/5

West Virginia - Holgo is probably safe but has that "could always go really south" quality that so few coaches do 2/5

Big 10
East
Indiana - Tom Allen wasn't terrible last year, but they're in a wayyyy tougher division now where Rutgers is the only team that I guarantee is worse than them. Factor in that he's cheap, and it could be an issue. 2/5

Maryland - Durkin has some decent momentum and showed promise. He's safe 1/5

Michigan - No 1/5

Michigan State - Dantonio probably can't go 3-9 again, but I doubt he will. 2/5

Ohio State - No 1/5

Penn State - Franklin earned a lot of goodwill last year, but he could end up back on the hot seat if last year proves to be a fluke 2/5

Rutgers - Oh poor Chris Ash. You fix Ohio State's coverage and introduce a terrifying press man scheme that no one in the conference has the skill players to beat, then you have to try to beat it with a Rutgers team that was recruited for the complete opposite offensive philosophy to what you want to run. You probably have one more year of safety, assuming it doesn't get too much worse, but that seat will heat up very quickly. 3/5

West
Illinois - Honestly, I think this one comes down to if Illinois can secure the finances to fire Lovie more than anything. 4/5

Iowa - No 1/5

Minnesota - Fleck is safe for at least 2 years unless he accrues some Freeze-level NCAA violations 1/5

Nebraska - Riley showed some improvement last year, and he probably has at least another year before the seat heats up too much. Still not on thick ice 2/5

Northwestern - No 1/5

Purdue - Brohm gets 2 years of slack at least 1/5

Wisconsin - Chryst is safe. 1/5


Pac-12
North
California - Wilcox will get some time to work things out, especially since Cal has literally no money for anything. 1/5

Oregon - Taggart will get at least a year of slack. 1/5

Oregon State - Andersen has had two lousy years to start, so he needs to avoid another losing season. 6-6 is easily enough for him to stay employed. 3/5

Stanford - No 1/5

Washington - No 1/5

Washington State - No 1/5

South
Arizona - RichRod is in a weird spot. They've underperformed, and he's publicly chased another job. New AD in town. Contract is only real issue. He's certainly hot, though not on fire. 4/5

Arizona State - Todd Graham is publicly on the hot seat with how mediocre ASU has been the last two years 5/5

Colorado - No 1/5

UCLA - Jim Mora is basically in the same spot as RichRod, but with a team that has the money to get rid of him. Underperformed, chasing NFL jobs to some extent. Now USC's back on the hype train. 5/5

USC - Helton showed promise in year 2, but it's USC, so a mediocre year could result in some hyperventilating, more likely next year though 2/5

Utah - No 1/5


SEC
East
Florida - McElwain hasn't been bad. He also hasn't been great, especially with how trash that division is. Could heat up very quickly with a bad year. 1/5

Georgia - Yeah, Kirby probably drop 5 games again without taking some heat. Not with that fanbase. 8-4 might placate though 2/5

Kentucky - Well, we now know that 7-5 is all Kentucky wants. He's safe 1/5

Missouri - If they're bad again, I wouldn't be shocked to see Odom go, especially with how open this division is right now. 3/5

South Carolina - Overachieved last year. Probably safe for at least a year as a result 1/5

Tennessee - Man, Butch probably gets the benefit of a rebuilding year, but that's still probably an expectation of 9 wins from the fans/admins, especially considering the division. He's very warm 4/5

Vanderbilt - Mason's probably fine for at least another year, unless the bottom somehow goes out and they go like 3-9. Could easily go the other way and get hired elsewhere too 2/5

West
Alabama - No 1/5

Arkansas - Bielema is in a position where he probably can't go 7-6 again and be safe, especially with Jerry Jones money laying around. 4/5

Auburn - Gus took some heat off of himself last year but will be right back on the hot seat if they're not good this year. Ratchets up to a 4 easily if they drop 2 of their first 6 games 2/5

LSU - Yes, they just hired Coach O. But they also are paying him nothing and have a money cannon ready to fire if this dumb interim experiment doesn't work. Warmer than you'd think. 3/5

Mississippi State - No. One of you should hire Dan Mullen already 1/5

Ole Miss - Yeah, if this sanction goes bad on him, he's dead, no matter how much the department backs him now. 5/5

Texas A&M - Sumlin is dead if they don't hit like 9 wins this year at least. 5/5

Grab Bag

Notre Dame - Brian Kelly is definitely warm, but he's probably safe at 8-9 wins 4/5

SMU - Chad Morris gets a lot of hype for being promising. He also has 7 wins in 2 years. One bad year, and I bet they warm up a lot. Conversely, one good year could make someone overpay him 3/5

BYU - Sitake probably has another year, but they can't afford to be too bad 2/5



Coaching Candidates to keep an eye on:

Tulsa - Phillip Montgomery has had decent success and can probably install a Baylor type offense anywhere. The whole "good friend of Art Briles" thing may prove problematic though.

UCF - Scott Frost can probably get a better job with a good year.

Old Dominion - Bobby Wilder had them pretty solid last year. Will absolutely get some looks if they're good again.

LA Tech - Skip Holtz probably has one more super disappointing Power 5 job in him. (please be Notre Dame)

Miami OH - Chuck Martin caught lightning in a bottle the second half of the season and could get a Power 5 job if that continues.

Toledo - Jason Candle went 9-4 in year 1 at Toledo and has Power 5 written all over him with a 10 win season.

Wyoming - WOULD ONE OF YOU IDIOTS JUST HIRE CRAIG BOHL ALREADY

Boise State - Harsin could maybe be swayed for the right job I guess.

App State - Scott Satterfield is really really good and should probably get hired like right now.

Troy - Neal Brown is going to be an SEC coach with another good year

Idaho - One of you idiots will hire Paul Petrino, because there's not way he's willingly going to be an FCS coach after this way.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

TheGreyGhost posted:

Michigan State - Dantonio probably can't go 3-9 again, but I doubt he will. 2/5

With what's going on in the program right now he absolutely might go 3-9 again. This year is going to be bad, but at least this year it won't be surprising.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Aah gently caress it why not.

MAC HOT SEATS THAT ARE TOTALLY NOT A BLATANT RIP OF THEGREYGHOST'S POST AT ALL NO SIR

East
Ohio - Frank Solich - Finished 8-6 and went 6-2 in conference. He's likely here until he wants to retire. He's safe. 1/5
Miami (OH) - Hell of a finish for Chuck Martin last year. 6 straight wins and took Mississippi State to the wire in the first bowl game in what felt like ages for Miami. If anything, he's a candidate to go somewhere else. 2/5
Bowling Green - Mike Jinks seemed to find a groove as the season went on last year. He's only 3 years removed from being a high school coach so growing pains (plus a loss of almost the entire offense before he was hired) were to be expected. 2/5.
Akron - Man who even knows. Akron has a ton of budget issues and much bigger issues than football. Still, Terry's seat is definitely on the warmer side. 3/5.
Kent State - Paul Haynes is a great guy but has almost no budget, a rough offense, and now an investigation into a lineman who died in a summer camp. Barring a miracle season, it's hard not to see them offloading him, even if it isn't entirely his fault. Their first game this year is at Clemson :gonk: 5/5
Buffalo - Lance Leipold is still relatively new but last year was a disaster. 3/5.

West
Western Michigan - Lester is brand new. 1/5.
Toledo - Candle is still pretty new and has done a good job keeping the momentum Cambell gave him. He's fine and may get some looks at bigger schools soon. 1/5
NIU - Carey is on a bit of a warm seat, which seems weird for any coach that's 31-12 at a school. This will be an interesting year as it seems like NIU has slipped a bit behind Western and Toledo. 2.5/5.
EMU - Chris Creighton beat BG for the first time in ages, took NIU to the wire, went to a bowl game for the first time since 1987 and finished 7-6 to the shock of drat near everyone. Lord knows if he can repeat the performance but he has an ice cold seat. 0/5.
CMU - Stun Oklahoma State on a miracle play you shouldn't have had. Shock NIU on the road in triple OT. Then lose 4 of your last 5 and get obliterated by Tampa in a bowl game. The MAC! Bonamego is probably safe for now but they've got a new AD. 3/5.
Ball State - Neu only has one year under his belt and Ball State is a mess. This is gonna take some time. 1/5.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
Strong disagree on the hot seat ranking for Mike Riley, especially if UCF has a good year

Wiccan Wasteland
Oct 15, 2012

MourningView posted:

Strong disagree on the hot seat ranking for Mike Riley, especially if UCF has a good year

I remember Steven Godfrey saying on PAPN that there were some boosters pushing hard to get Scott Frost there when he was still at Oregon. If he's able to put together a really good year, then yeah, Mike Riley's seat will be on fire.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
Nebraska fans were also (justifiably) skeptical of Riley from the start and he immediately had a lovely season that was way below expectations. That fanbase is crazy even when the team is relatively good, so I don't think that's going to be a very long leash.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Kliff is absolutely on the hot seat. No one wants to fire the guy who turned a 3* QB into a top 10 pick, especially since we all know that if we do fire him, he'll wind up at some other Big XII school as an OC and will proceed to destroy us for years. But we can't stay bad.

Frankly, I think he's the best OC and QB coach in the country. But that doesn't necessarily mean he's a good HC. The defense being as bad as it is is simply inexcusable, especially after 4 years.

It's a pretty low bar: 6 wins and he coaches another year. Transfers and recruiting defections are not promising, though.

Tech's replacement hire is a total ??. Sonny Dykes is an obvious option, but retreads are a hard sell for a mid-level team like Tech, even if they have such strong ties back to the school. Neal Brown is another obvious option, seeing as he's the only good thing that came out of the Tuberville years. Willie Fritz is my darkhorse mid-major pick: Tulane's gonna be dangerous this year. Craig Bohl would probably be the knee-jerk, opposite style choice. And there'd be the comedy option of Ruffin McNeal, the guy we should have hired after the 2009 season. Art Briles will also have his supporters and all I can say about that is that I will completely disown my school if they hire loving Art Briles.

dirty shrimp money
Jan 8, 2001

Why not, I'll do the American...which gets two ratings because of its position in the carousel -

West -

Navy - Could be the next Navy coach to go to Georgia Tech if something happens to Paul Johnson, but being fired oh hell no.
Fired 1/5
Poached 2/5

Tulsa - Might be stuck at Tulsa for a while with the stench of Baylor on him.
Fired 1/5
Poached 1/5

Memphis - Mike Norvell's kept some of the Fuente momentum going which is about all he was asked to do in 16. If he keeps it going in 17 some P5 will go to the coaching mine -
Fired 1/5
Poached 4/5

Houston - New coach, but with the UH president publicly saying 8-5 isn't good enough it's not impossible if Houston has a down year.
Fired 2/5
Poached 2/5

SMU - Everyone's just kind of waiting for Chad Morris to take off but it hasn't happened yet. Still more likely a poach than a fire for now.
Fired 2/5
Poached 3/5

Tulane - Fritz will get at least two more years given they're so bad.
Fired 1/5
Poached 1/5


East -

Temple - New coach, but with tons of SEC experience.
Fired 1/5
Poached 3/5

South Florida - Charlie Strong was the steal of 2017, but was so bad in Texas it might be a while before he gets back into the Power 5...unless he takes USF to New Year's -
Fired 1/5
Poached 2/5

UCF - Scott Frost is gone as soon as UCF gets a good year which is more likely to be 18 than 17 -
Fired 1/5
Poached 3/5

Cincinnati - New coach
Fired 1/5
Poached 2/5

East Carolina - Scottie Montgomery was a complete dud in 17 and ECU is looking at another year as a doormat. Maybe now they regret kicking what eventually ended up being Oklahoma's coaching staff?
Fired 1/5
Poached 1/5

UConn - Welcome to the Bill Snyder plan Randy Edsall -
Fired 1/5
Poached 1/5

Wichita State - lol basketball

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?

kayakyakr posted:

Kliff is absolutely on the hot seat. No one wants to fire the guy who turned a 3* QB into a top 10 pick, especially since we all know that if we do fire him, he'll wind up at some other Big XII school as an OC and will proceed to destroy us for years. But we can't stay bad.

Frankly, I think he's the best OC and QB coach in the country. But that doesn't necessarily mean he's a good HC. The defense being as bad as it is is simply inexcusable, especially after 4 years.

It's a pretty low bar: 6 wins and he coaches another year. Transfers and recruiting defections are not promising, though.

Tech's replacement hire is a total ??. Sonny Dykes is an obvious option, but retreads are a hard sell for a mid-level team like Tech, even if they have such strong ties back to the school. Neal Brown is another obvious option, seeing as he's the only good thing that came out of the Tuberville years. Willie Fritz is my darkhorse mid-major pick: Tulane's gonna be dangerous this year. Craig Bohl would probably be the knee-jerk, opposite style choice. And there'd be the comedy option of Ruffin McNeal, the guy we should have hired after the 2009 season. Art Briles will also have his supporters and all I can say about that is that I will completely disown my school if they hire loving Art Briles.

Would they go to a completely different style of offense? Dykes is probably the most likely guy but i think Brown is the best combination of coach and fit. Fritz isn't a pure triple option guy like some people think based on his time at GSU but he'd be a pretty radical departure. He also probably needs to actually win at Tulane first. I think he will eventually but he has that Chad Morris thing where people are trying to rush him to the next level before he really does anything significant where he's at

MourningView fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jun 15, 2017

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

MourningView posted:

Would they go to a completely different style of offense? Dykes is probably the most likely guy but i think Brown is the best combination of coach and fit. Fritz isn't a pure triple option guy like some people think based on his time at GSU but he'd be a pretty radical departure. He also probably needs to actually win at Tulane first. I think he will eventually but he has that Chad Morris thing where people are trying to rush him to the next level before he really does anything significant where he's at

It's the stink of the defense. They kept the "same" offense after Leach and the defense got awful. They kept the same offense going to Kingsbury, but the defense somehow got even worse? I don't know if anyone will be happy with returning to the grind it out, give it back to the defense Spike Dykes days which is why I question them trying out another defensive guy, but someone like Sonny Dykes or Neal Brown may not be enough of a departure to justify dropping the investment we've made into Kliff's on-the-job training.

Fitz's true offense is more of a spread run & shoot. It fits in with the air raid pretty well. Spent a lot of time watching it at Sam Houston State. I think Kliff's integrated a lot of concepts from his Sam offense into the air raid, particularly some of the combo run options.

He's been on my radar for a long time and if he takes Tulane to a bowl this year, he'll be on a lot more radars. Teams like Tech are always having to look out for the next wunderkind since, as soon as they get big, one of the bigger openings comes along for them offering money that the mid-level guys just can't compete with.

We'd much rather keep Kingsbury, but he absolutely would have been fired after last season had he not been an alumni. Then again, he also wouldn't have gotten the job when he did had he not been an alumni and he would have had a bit more time to learn how to be a coach. He probably would have been fired after last season had we not signed him to a 7 year contract after his first season with a ridiculous buyout. He's gotten better as a coach over the years, but nothing matters if he doesn't fix the defense and get to 6 wins this year.

Wiccan Wasteland
Oct 15, 2012

kayakyakr posted:

Kliff is absolutely on the hot seat. No one wants to fire the guy who turned a 3* QB into a top 10 pick, especially since we all know that if we do fire him, he'll wind up at some other Big XII school as an OC and will proceed to destroy us for years. But we can't stay bad.

Frankly, I think he's the best OC and QB coach in the country. But that doesn't necessarily mean he's a good HC. The defense being as bad as it is is simply inexcusable, especially after 4 years.

It's a pretty low bar: 6 wins and he coaches another year. Transfers and recruiting defections are not promising, though.

Tech's replacement hire is a total ??. Sonny Dykes is an obvious option, but retreads are a hard sell for a mid-level team like Tech, even if they have such strong ties back to the school. Neal Brown is another obvious option, seeing as he's the only good thing that came out of the Tuberville years. Willie Fritz is my darkhorse mid-major pick: Tulane's gonna be dangerous this year. Craig Bohl would probably be the knee-jerk, opposite style choice. And there'd be the comedy option of Ruffin McNeal, the guy we should have hired after the 2009 season. Art Briles will also have his supporters and all I can say about that is that I will completely disown my school if they hire loving Art Briles.

I'd throw Chad Morris's name in the hat as well. I know there's a fear that he will leave for A&M as soon as that job comes open but Tech really needs to move on from the Mike Leach coaching tree.

Also, speaking of Ruffin McNeil...

Lincoln Riley taps former ECU coach Ruffin McNeill to join Oklahoma staff

Wiccan Wasteland fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jun 15, 2017

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
I still don't get the Morris thing. He hasn't even won 6 games yet. June Jones did way better at SMU than he has so far, but everyone from the state of Texas talks about him like he's the next Bear Bryant.

MourningView fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jun 15, 2017

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

MourningView posted:

I still don't get the Morris thing. He hasn't even won 6 games yet. June Jones did way better at SMU than he has so far, but everyone from the state of Texas talks about him like he's the next Bear Bryant.

I'm with you. Morris underwhelmed when he interviewed for Tech the first time and he hasn't done anything since taking over SMU to make me think he is worth the big money.

Wiccan Wasteland
Oct 15, 2012
SMU was a dumpster fire when Morris got there. June Jones really struggled to recruit within DFW and around the state. I'd really look to see if the team finally does well this year before I'd call Morris a disappointment.


June Jones' eyes were not on Texas

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?

Wiccan Wasteland posted:

SMU was a dumpster fire when Morris got there. June Jones really struggled to recruit within DFW and around the state. I'd really look to see if the team finally does well this year before I'd call Morris a disappointment.


June Jones' eyes were not on Texas

It was way better than it was when Jones got there. If he did such a poo poo job why did he consistently produce better seasons than Morris has?

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

Tyson Summers is likely in trouble if Georgia Southern fails to show improvement. There were a lot of injuries last year, but the offense was totally not what Georgia Southern's fanbase wants to run. The co-offensive coordinators were replaced, so the season shall be interesting.

Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

MourningView posted:

Strong disagree on the hot seat ranking for Mike Riley, especially if UCF has a good year

MourningView posted:

Nebraska fans were also (justifiably) skeptical of Riley from the start and he immediately had a lovely season that was way below expectations. That fanbase is crazy even when the team is relatively good, so I don't think that's going to be a very long leash.

Agreeing with MV here. I'd say 4/5. There was enough pressure on him after last season's collapse / harsh return to reality that he fired DC Mark Banker after nearly 20 years of coaching together. Not to mention he/his staff have been completely out-coached in several games.

We've had a pretty good recruiting class so far (from what I've heard - I don't follow) which will give him a bit more leash. But if the results aren't there on the field the fan base will start chirping for sure.

Kim Jong Il
Aug 16, 2003

TheGreyGhost posted:

Boston College - Steve Addazio is signed through 2020 and has had 3 good years with one abominable one in the middle. They're always good for one stupid upset and one completely blown cupcake with the type of low risk-low reward football they play, but it's BC. Only thing that makes me think that Addazio might get fired this year: This is year 2 of the Scot Loeffler experience. He hasn't made it past 2 years in a a job in the last decade. 2/5

This is a 4/5, he's on a very hot seat.

quote:

Rutgers - Oh poor Chris Ash. You fix Ohio State's coverage and introduce a terrifying press man scheme that no one in the conference has the skill players to beat, then you have to try to beat it with a Rutgers team that was recruited for the complete opposite offensive philosophy to what you want to run. You probably have one more year of safety, assuming it doesn't get too much worse, but that seat will heat up very quickly. 3/5

Closer to a 2. I think everyone expects another year of struggles with the roster Flood left, although switching back to a scheme the offense actually fits will help. He won't be under any pressure until 2018 where they'll expect real progress in year 3.

KIM JONG TRILL
Nov 29, 2006

GIN AND JUCHE

TheGreyGhost posted:

Oklahoma - Riley is in a position where he would need to really bungle this to get fired, but it's still wholly possible if they're 8 wins or less. 2/5

OU would have to go winless for Riley to get fired in year 1.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”

KIM JONG TRILL posted:

OU would have to go winless for Riley to get fired in year 1.

He's making <$2m and Oklahoma is a blue blood. He's basically in a slightly better coach O situation.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

It doesn't help Morris' case that Clemson has actually done better since he left.

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

KIM JONG TRILL posted:

OU would have to go winless for Riley to get fired in year 1.

I mean if he actually won 1 game with the roster he has he's going to get fired. Or 2, or 3, or 4. The dogs would be at his heels if he snuck into a 6 win bowl game.

I don't really expect any of this to matter this year at least, but OU is perfectly capable of firing someone early with the expectations that program has.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?

RC and Moon Pie posted:

Tyson Summers is likely in trouble if Georgia Southern fails to show improvement. There were a lot of injuries last year, but the offense was totally not what Georgia Southern's fanbase wants to run. The co-offensive coordinators were replaced, so the season shall be interesting.

I am way more invested in this happening than I should be because I really want them to go back to being a dope option team, especially because there are so many fun option OCs for them to hire right now. Irvin Jasper has been at Navy forever and would be loving perfect for that job. Or if they want to go a little more outside the box I love the offense Bob DeBesse has run at New Mexico.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


MacIntyre's extension has been approved at Colorado.

FBScoops posted:

Colorado regents unanimously approved head coach Mike MacIntyre’s previously-announced contract extension on Thursday.

The new contract was originally announced in January, but approval by the board of regents was held back following a Sports Illustrated story that detailed abuse of a long-time girlfriend of then-safeties coach Joe Tumpkin and MacIntyre’s response therein. The school hired a third-party to investigation the situation and found MacIntyre withheld critical information that violated the wording of his contract — allowing the board to fire him with cause, if it so chose.

The board didn’t fire MacIntyre, obviously, and instead approved the extension that will pay him $16.25 million through the 2021 season. His 2017 salary will be $3.1 million. MacIntyre made just over $2 million before bonuses in 2016.



The whole timeline is really sickening. Holy poo poo gently caress this school.



quote:

1: On the morning of Dec. 9, MacIntyre received a call from the longtime girlfriend of safeties coach Joe Tumpkin saying Tumpkin had repeatedly and violently beat her. The two speak for 34 minutes, during which she details nearly two years of physical abuse. MacIntyre asks if the woman is safe, she says she is.

2: Precisely a week later, MacIntyre announces Tumpkin will run the defense and serve as defensive play caller for the Buffaloes’ Alamo Bowl appearance December 29th against Oklahoma State (defensive coordinator Jim Leavitt had accepted the same role at Oregon).

3: Tumpkin is suspended on Jan. 6 after The Boulder Daily Camera obtained a copy of the temporary protection order (TPO) and ran a story about it.

4: In late January, Tumpkin resigned from his job at Colorado and was charged with five felony counts and three misdemeanor counts of assault.

5: Colorado regents delay approval of a previously-announced $16 million extension for MacIntyre.


Here is what we learned following the release of a 4-month, third-party investigation:


1: MacIntyre’s 34 minute initial call with Tumpkin’s girlfriend occurred at 6AM December 9th. 13 hours later, MacIntyre made his first outreach to his AD. During that time, the report states MacIntyre made or received approximately 20 phone calls including 4 to his agent.

2: MacIntyre did not actually get in touch with his AD until the morning of the 10th. At 9:31 that morning MacIntyre called & engaged a private criminal defense attorney who had previously represented players “adverse to the University” in Title IX proceedings. This attorney “served as MacIntyre’s advisor during his second, third and fourth interviews” for the report. In explaining why he engaged the attorney MacIntyre stated, “When it is this magnitude, I am going to make sure I cover every base; it impacts reputation when it hits.”

3: Later on the 10th, MacIntyre blocked Tumpkin’s girlfriend’s number on his cell phone.

4: MacIntyre and AD Rick George met with Tumpkin on Dec. 11 to inform the assistant his girlfriend had called MacIntyre with her allegations against Tumpkin. The pair tells Tumpkin they did not want to hear anything about the situation so MacIntyre and George “would not be in the position of being witnesses or exercising influence.” George says the meeting lasts two minutes.

5: December 12th the woman sent MacIntyre an iMessage and also left him a voicemail on his cell phone informing him that Tumpkin already had another woman in his apartment, and that she was worried for her safety..

6: Neither MacIntyre, George nor Colorado chancellor Philip DiStefano alerted law enforcement at any point during this time, and MacIntyre did not contact the University’s Title IX OIEC.

7: December 12th, at his request, MacIntyre provided Tumpkin contact information for an attorney who had represented several CU football players in legal matters.

8: The woman iMessaged and left a voicemail for MacIntyre on Dec. 15 saying she is going to file a temporary protection order against Tumpkin the following Monday.

9: December 16th MacIntyre publicly announces Tumpkin will run the defense for the upcoming bowl game.

gently caress Colorado

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
lol drat, talk about not giving a poo poo

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.
Only two Big XII coaches I really see going anywhere are Texas Tech where Kliff would have been gone last year if the money had been there and Kansas State, where Bill Snyder is prolly going to retire at the end of the season.

Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

DJExile posted:

MacIntyre's extension has been approved at Colorado.

The whole timeline is really sickening. Holy poo poo gently caress this school.

gently caress Colorado

There should just be a preemptive investigation any time a coach turns around a fledgling program. Holy poo poo.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Dango Bango posted:

There should just be a preemptive investigation any time a coach turns around a fledgling program. Holy poo poo.

Colorado has won a national title duder.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

Colorado has won a national title duder.

Yeah but that was almost 30 years ago and they've been dogshit in the last decade until this season.

Also that 1990 title was illegitimate and we all know it. :colbert:

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Pakled posted:

Yeah but that was almost 30 years ago and they've been dogshit in the last decade until this season.

Also that 1990 title was illegitimate and we all know it. :colbert:

take a look at who went to more big xii conference title games lol

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

take a look at who went to more big xii conference title games lol

They were good for a couple of those years, the other two they just outlasted the rest of the lovely Big 12 North.

Which you can tell by how they lost by a combined 106 points in the 04-05 championship games.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?

Grittybeard posted:

They were good for a couple of those years, the other two they just outlasted the rest of the lovely Big 12 North.

Which you can tell by how they lost by a combined 106 points in the 04-05 championship games.

For real in two of those seasons the second place team in the North was loving Iowa State

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

https://mobile.twitter.com/coachingsearch/status/877595847101427713

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches
RE: Nebraska

The schedule this year and next — the latter is especially brutal — aren't going to do us any favors, so some marked improvement is definitely necessary. We can lose to OSU, just not by, you know, 59 (though that game last year was just a lovely situation all around).

But barring an epic early season collapse, I think Riley will survive this season regardless because I doubt Shawn Eichorst would fire him — he'll have probably been shown the door, too.

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

quote:

Georgia - Yeah, Kirby probably drop 5 games again without taking some heat. Not with that fanbase. 8-4 might placate though 2/5

Depends. If the offense sucks again, he better be prepared to toss Jim Chaney out of Athens.

(reminds self what Jim Chaney looks like)

Or use a forklift. IMO, the only good reason why Chaney was kept around after last season is continuity; 4 OCs in 4 years is no bueno. I miss Bobo.

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

D.N. Nation posted:

Depends. If the offense sucks again, he better be prepared to toss Jim Chaney out of Athens.

(reminds self what Jim Chaney looks like)

Or use a forklift. IMO, the only good reason why Chaney was kept around after last season is continuity; 4 OCs in 4 years is no bueno. I miss Bobo.

Some recruit said (so take this with a Stone Mountain size grain of salt) that offensive staff really wants to transition to more of a dual threat system, which should be easier to get an OC to eventually replace Chaney. Maybe Bono gets ran out of Colorado State and comes back as an OC

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
Bobo is a lot more likely to get a better HC job than he is to get fired at CSU

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

MourningView posted:

Bobo is a lot more likely to get a better HC job than he is to get fired at CSU

Could see him continue further west to Arizona. actually he's coming back to Athens once Kirby gets fired

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KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

D.N. Nation posted:

Could see him continue further west to Arizona. actually he's coming back to Athens once Kirby gets fired

My not so secret dream. His take on a power spread when we had Murray was fun and he even made Hutson "can't throw a ball more than 15 yards" Mason into a perfectly serviceable QB

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