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Smasher Dynamo
Oct 16, 2008

Eternal Commissioner of the Super League. A new avatar. A new age, of the same old embittered Smasher that failed to escape the bonds of the SL, FM3, Johnny Hopp and Eri Yoshida "The Knuckle Princess". "The flames of Smasher's ire scorch the skies... Igniting St. Bellhorn's funeral pyre."


Super-League XXIII, Sign-Up Thread

A lot of words below, don't feel compelled to read any of them.

The Super-League is about building a baseball team from bits and pieces of other, real-life teams. The patchwork, often grotesque, creations, then compete with each other to see who is the best at the Super-League. I could spend paragraphs and paragraphs trying to explain the history, and the logic, and the finer points of the league, but I'm not sure if there's much point.

This thread gives you the chance to do something different than the rest of the LP forum. I'm not trying to show off a game here. Quite frankly, Baseball Mogul 2013, the platform I run this game on, is not particularly special. No, what I'm giving you the chance to do is war with your fellow Super-Leaguers to prove that you're better than them at this competition. Some people like it, some don't, I'm not in a position to make a determination either way, since I don't really play in the league, I just run it.



Helpful Resources

The Super-League, like many baseball fantasy leagues before it, is a game of numbers and stats. When you’re using players from at any point in the last century, it’s vital to have resources to see how good they will do. To that end, we have two major sources of stats you can pour over.

Baseball Reference - This one is a no-brainer. Baseball Reference houses stats of all sorts of uselessness from all the way back to the heydays of Cy Young (also known as the 1890s). Fair warning is that guys with incomplete careers and mid WW2 careers don't do as well in Mogul sims. (The former because Mogul likes having a complete career to use as projection, the latter because most true greats were killing Nazi's during the War years, and the ball's quality was lowered due to wartime supply priorities.) This is the place where you can check out your inevitable feeder teams. Of course, the historical data can only go so far in a modern simulation, which brings us to…

Super-League Reference - Here it is. The absolute, must-have bookmark to be consulting when it comes to every player you find. Super-League reference was compiled in a joint effort by Mr. Cool Ice and Cthulhu Dreams, and uses the saves from Super-League IV and onward to paint a picture of that player’s performance in the Super-League. This is important since the Super-League, using the best of the best players from all of baseball history, is a marked degree above even the most talent-filled seasons of baseball. And some classically great all-time players, like Bob Feller and Willie Mays, just don’t do well in a Super-League environment. Again, use this. This, in combination with knowing which stats are important, will keep your head above water, even if you’re nowhere near the level of baseball historian that Commissar Dynamo is.

The Basics of Baseball
by tatankatonk

Ok, so even the dumbest/foreign goon knows the basics of baseball. Hell, you know the lyrics to Take Me Out to the Ballgame by heart, and that's half the rules right there. There's pitchers, there's position players (first, second, third base, shortstop, outfielders, catchers), and there's pitchers (starting and relief). Three strikes is an out, three outs is an inning, nine innings and a game is over, unless there's a tie in which case it goes a few more and everyone leaves the stadium early. Anyway, what you should come away with from this is the following: Baseball, more than any other sport in the world, is a game of numbers. Every single thing that happens on the field is recorded and converted into statistics that professional analysts come up with to determine a player's performance. This isn't basketball, where blocks (a vital defensive stat) weren't recorded until the mid-70s. There's records of the game going all the way back to when Ty Cobb was assaulting fans, and even farther than that. Your job, as a Superleague owner, is to learn what all these numbers mean, and how to look at them in a way that can instantly tell you what you need to know about a player.



So, What Stats Are Useful, Anyhow?

If you know nothing about baseball, then you will be shocked by how many stats that are tracked that are absolutely worthless in the grand scheme of thing. There is only a handful of stats you need to evaluate the quality of a player, and this small area will give you a rundown on the biggest ones to consider. In somewhat arbitrary order of usefulness:

On-Base + Slugging Percentage (OPS+): The go-to stat that your eyes should drift to first when it concerns batters. Era and season-adjusted, with average for that season being a flat ‘100’. If you find a guy who had a 115 OPS+, then he was 15% better at generating runs than the average joe that year. Combine that with the fact that he might be at a scarce position (see “Positional Scarcity” below), and you’ll be cooking with a run-generating machine in no time.

Earned Run Average + (ERA+): The same thing as OPS+, but for Pitchers. 115 ERA+ means he was 15% than the average pitcher that season. Generally speaking, having good pitchers is more important than having good hitters ! Many teams get relegated not because they don’t have huge dudes who can hit the ball and score runs, but because their own pitching gets lit up and destroyed over the course of the season because they forgot to focus on it. Try to focus on pitching before hitting!

Defensive Wins Above Replacement (dWAR): Let’s get this out of the way: There is no real great stat to measure a player’s defensive ability. The best we have is dWAR, which measures whether a guy is worth keeping in the field compared to a replacement player. This value can go into the negatives, meaning that some players are such bad players that they will give up plays with their bad ball-handling. If you rely on groundball or deadball-era pitchers, you will absolutely get destroyed if you have bad fielders. Generally speaking, Catcher, Center Field, and the middle infield positions (Second Base, Shortstop, Third Base) are the ones where you want to place defense over offense.

Batting Average, On-Base Percentage, and Slugging Percentage (BA, OBP, SLG): Here are the base stats for offensive prowess for batters. Batting Average is how often you can hit the ball, On-Base Percentage is like Batting Average, but also factors in walks. (seriously, you don’t know what a walk is? Ok, a pitcher has to throw his pitches in an area next to the batter called the strike zone for it to count as a strike, or the batter has to swing at it. If he pitches and it's not in the strike zone, it's a ball. You pitch four balls, and the guy walks to first automatically.) and SLG is how far you can hit the ball on average when you hit it. Generally speaking, a .350+ OBP and a .400+ SLG are probably the minimum for Super-League caliber players, but you don’t necessarily need to have both.

Walks + Hits Per Innings Pitched (WHIP): Is what it says, how many combined hits plus walks a pitcher gives up each inning he’s in play. This is a good estimate of how ‘wild’ your pitcher is, and whether he ends up keeping control of the ball or he shoots a 100 MPH fastball with no regard for where it lands. Wild guys are bad because wild guys lead to more walks, which lead to more runs, which leads to more games lost. 1.000 WHIP are elite, and 1.300+ WHIP guys are probably too wild to consider, even despite their pedigree.

Isolated Discipline (IsoD): This one you won’t find on either of the reference sites, but is decently important, as it describes a batter’s ‘Batting Eye’, his ability to identify pitches and whether he should be taking a swing at them. You get this one by calculating OBP - BA. .070 is generally considered the bare minimum for a good player who doesn’t just whiff at every pitch over the plate. .150 and you’ve got a guy with an elite eye.

Hits, Home Runs, Walks, and Strikeouts Per 9 Innings (H/9, HR/9, BB/9, SO/9): Miscellaneous, yet important stats to tell you how your pitcher pitches and what he can be expected to do during a game. Fireball pitchers have huge SO/9 rates, but at the expense of being either really wild (higher BB/9) or giving up big hits (higher HR/9). As a general rule of thumb, unless a guy is really, really good, you want to look for the lowest BB/9 above all others, because Super-League pitchers are forced to face Super-League hitters, who are especially good at drawing walks.

Age: Young guys are wild, and old guys fall apart at the seams. You don’t want to pick up a 40-year-old Gaylord Perry and hope he can hold down your rotation. Generally speaking, 24-34 is a nice age range for considered players. Younger than 24, they’re probably a little wild; 35 and older, you’re playing with geriatric fire, which is more like a dying ember. Emphasis on DYING. SMASHER'S NOTE: I want to make this super-clear: Baseball Mogul, the engine the Super-League uses, doesn't work like WhatifSports or OOTP Baseball. It gives players ratings based on both how old they are and how good a career they had overall! For example, if you think you're going to game the system by taking 1996 Brady Anderson (who had one of the great fluke seasons in history), you are going to be sorely disappointed, because he's not going to hit 50 home runs, he's going to hit like he did in every other season around that fluke season!

Plate Appearances/Innings Pitched: No one likes small sample sizes. A guy may seem amazing until you realize he only played one game that season. These stats basically serve as a reality check that the guy you never heard of who is really good is only good because he literally batted once or pitched one game. PAs are for batters, and IPs are for Pitchers. Innings Pitched also gives you a decent idea of a pitcher’s stamina. If he can pitch a consistent 300-400 innings of baseball (on bbref, that is. Most SL-starters don’t pitch more than about 250 innings), then chances are he can go the distance. Mogul doesn't like players with short careers either, which is something to keep in mind. Or incomplete careers. So Miguel Cabrera is not the God of Triple Crowns in Mogul, despite what he's projected to do, since he's still got a ways to go.



Positional Scarcity

Now, you are probably thinking that some positions are a little harder to find good players for than others, and you’d be right! Certain positions are harder to field than others, and baseball comes with an established hierarchy:

1. Catcher
2. Shortstop
3. Second Baseman
4. Center Fielder
5. Third Baseman
6. Right Fielder
7. Left Fielder
8. First Baseman

So finding good 3rd basemen and center fielders is hard, great Catchers and Shortstops practically impossible, and halfway decent corner outfielders and first basemen a dime a dozen. In fact, looking for a First Baseman or Corner Outfielder, you should be looking for 130 or better OPS+, as it’s so easy to stick bat first, glove-second guys here that you need an especially good hitter there.


Team Building Tips and Tricks:

A team-building tutorial would essentially drive the word count of this guide through the roof. However, there are some handy hints to know.

-Look to low-point teams first. Low-point teams will usually have one or two good guys and a load of spare parts, but might also have a great player hidden in the rubble of bad teams. Plus, it’s best to start at the bottom, since most people will be starting at the top.
-Remember positional scarcity! Look for Catchers, Second Basemen, and Shortstops before loading up on First Basemen and Corner OFs.
-A good player with useful teammates is better than a very good player with no teammates. Picking up a whole team for one guy is a raw deal, even for the lowest of low-point teams. Try to find guys who are at least competent in other positions that you can situationally field to go with that legendary player you’re picking up.
-Finding an all-time great player on a low-point team is what you should be striving for. The Super League is comprised of some of the greatest baseball players of the last hundred years. There are teams stacked with top-notch talent that even the most baseball-clueless goon will vaguely recognize. If you don’t have to settle for a good-but-not-great player, don’t. Your goal is to be the best.
-Make sure you have a modern bullpen. Super-League bullpens are a crapshoot by nature, but having a modern reliever staff means they’re actually suited to bullpen work, since before 1950, nearly all teams were just sticking their worst starters in the bullpen, and graduating their best relievers to starter duty.
-Make sure your players' skills complement each other. Have a good assortment of on-base guys, power hitters, defensive vs offensive guys, and pitchers who can play to that. You have good hitters? Look for groundball pitching!
-Save points for pitching, because someone's probably grabbing that 1-point Christy Mathewson before you can.
-Don't ignore your bench, because you’re going to need them to at least hit a couple times over the season.
-Too young is better than too old.
-Don't let one gaping hole in your lineup bug you, as long as it's at a lower difficulty position like LF or 1B.
-Don't trade high-round Dispersal Draft picks for anything less than a Ted Williams.
-Don't rush to trade before you've seen your team play.
-Always always always double check your feeders! There might be a great player who only pitched a couple innings languishing on that team, or a future great who’s just a year or two shy of true competency on their bench. Don’t just pick the starters from your feeders!


Season Structure
By Smasher Dynamo

Deep Breath!

Expansion Cup

All new teams go through the Expansion Cup, which runs through the second-half of the Super-League season at an accelerated rate (each update is one month rather than one week). This is where new teams go to try and figure out what works and what doesn't in a relatively low-stress environment. If your team doesn't do well, that's probably not so bad, because you'll get higher dispersal draft picks, and that's good!

Expansion Cup Playoffs

The Expansion Cup is traditionally divided into two divisions based on whether the new team uses the DH or not. After the EC is over, the winner of each division faces off for a chance to win the Expansion Cup and with it, an amazing prize! (Nature of prize: TBD). The winners of the two divisions also get to start their first season in the Super-League, the higher division, while the rest of the EC teams end up in the Sub-Par League, which, as you can guess from its name, is the lower division.

Dispersal Draft

Held in the offseason, the Dispersal Draft is where teams have a chance to pick the carcasses of relegated teams for useful parts. The draft pool is usually made of players from the rosters of 4-6 teams that were relegated the Gauntlet (see below). The first three rounds of picks go only to the EC Team Owners, who pick in descending order of finish in the EC (that is, the team who did worse in the EC picks first in each round, and so on.) The fourth and fifth rounds use a lottery system to assign pick order, and have picks given out to both new and returning teams.

Super-League

The Show! The Super-League is the higher division of Super-League Baseball, and features 24 teams playing 26 weeks of games to determine who is best at fantasy fantasy baseball. There are six divisions with four teams each, organized into two leagues (DH and no-DH), each with twelve teams. At the end of 26 weeks, the division winners and two wildcards from each league advance to the playoffs. The bottom team in each division get demoted to the Sub-Par League after the season.

Sub-Par League

Not the Show! The Sub-Par League is the lower division of Super-League Baseball, and has been outsourced to McFreeze. It has a variable number of teams depending on how many teams are in the EC, but it's usually 16 or 18 teams divided into four divisions in two leagues (DH and no-DH.) The season lasts 26 weeks, and at the end, the division winners (no wildcards!) advance to the playoffs. Everyone who doesn't win the division, though, is subject to the Gauntlet.

Super-Draft

In the middle of the season, teams will have a chance to fortify their rosters through the Super-Draft, which lasts for three rounds, and has a draft pool made up of players from relegated teams not already used in the Dispersal Draft. The first and third rounds have picks for the Sub-Par League teams, while the Super-League teams pick in the second round.

Playoffs

Both the Super-League and Sub-Par League feature playoffs. In the Sub-Par League, there are four teams, who play in two rounds of playoffs to determine the Sub-Par League Champion. Just by making the Sub-Par League Playoffs, the teams have already qualified for next season's Super-League, but by winning the Sub-Par League Championship, the winning team gets to pick what division they'll be placed in the next season, which can, in theory, let them pick an easier division. Traditionally, McFreeze has streamed the Sub-Par League Finals live on a stream.

In the Super-League, the two wildcard teams from each league play each other in a one-game playoff. That leaves eight teams, who go through the League Division, League Championship, and Super-League Final rounds to determine the Super-League winner. Whoever the champion is then has the right to challenge the Macho Men in a bid to prove that they are the greatest team in Super-League history. When they inevitably fail at that task, they are destroyed, and their owner must build a new team out of leftover feeder teams for the next Super-League.

Gauntlet

There comes a time every season when you need to clear away the brush, and that's where the Gauntlet comes in. In the first round of the Gauntlet, the four worst teams in that season's Sub-Par League are forced to play a 40-game mini-season. The two teams that fare the worst are relegated, that is to say, forever killed. The two remaining teams then must play the two Sub-Par League teams with the next-worst records, and play 40 more games, after which the bottom two teams are eliminated once again. And that continues until such time as McFreeze and I decide that no further culling is needed.

Tag Team Tournament

There's also a tag team tournament. I'd give more explanation, but it's either about to start, or has already started in the main thread, so check it out there to get a sense of how it works.


In Closing: Have Fun, And Don’t Give Up!

That's a lot of words, but none of them really matter. The Super-League is about the journey, not the destination, because, let's be honest, the end of every great team is being smashed out of existence by the Macho Men. Yeah, there are a fair number of rules, and it's a bit confusing, but you can also ask questions in IRC or this thread or the main thread if you need to know something. So relax, give it a try, and, hey, what's the worst that could happen?


New Team Form

Fill out Now

This needs to be done to secure a spot in the Super-League

Teams Selected:

Pick eleven points worth of teams (twelve points for people who have never owned a Super-League team before), spread out over as many teams as you'd like. Hell, you could have eleven one-point teams if you really wanted.

Fill Out Soon

These items also need to be filled out, but not immediately, just as soon as you have some spare time

Team Name:

Team Logo (150x150 preferred):

Home City:

Home Stadium:
(Give me the dimensions and playing surface if it's a custom stadium)

DH Preference:

30-Man Roster:

25 in the majors, 5 in the minors

Lineups:

Pitching Rotation:

Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5)

Hit and Run:
Sacrifice Bunt:
Squeeze Play:
Trying for extra bases:
Stealing Bases:
Aggressively Tagging Up:
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases):
Giving Intentional Walks:
Pitching Around Good Hitters:
Bringing the Infield In:
Guarding the Lines:
Making Cutoff Throws:
Bringing in Pinch Hitters:
Bringing in Pinch Runners:
Bringing in Defensive Replacements:
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest:
Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble:
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts:

The Big, Big List of Feeder Teams

Pick eleven points of feeder teams, twelve if you've never owned a team in the Super-League.


6 Point Feeders
Players that hit World Series Walk off Home Runs + The pitchers that gave them up!

5 point feeders
6 AL cy Young winners, the year they won. No Dupes!
6 World Series MVPs, the year they won
1933 Yankees
1934 Crawfords
1950 AL All Stars
1958 NL All Stars


4 point feeders
1876 White Stockings
1909 Tigers
1911 Cubs
1913 Giants
1933 Cardinals
1942 Red Sox
1967 Giants
1970 AL All stars
1973 Reds
1978 Yankees
1987 Mets
1990 NL all Stars
1993 Blue Jays
1999 Braves
2001 Diamondbacks, but instead of Curt Schilling you get a second 2001 Randy Johnson
2006 Cardinals
2010 Phillies
2012 Detroit Tigers
2013 Angels
2014 Dodgers

3 point feeders
MLB: The Show Cover athletes
Integration Booster pack (First Black MLB players for each team)
1891 Phillies
1897 Beaneaters
1917 Phillies
1919 Cubs
1924 Reds
1928 Pirates
1936 Giants
1943 Dodgers
1959 White sox
1961 Cardinals
1965 Cubs
1968 Orioles
1970 Mets
1972 Twins
1979 Angels
1980 Royals
1983 Expos
1983 Phillies
1987 As
1993 White Sox
1997 Astros
1998 Orioles
1998 Red Sox
1999 Giants
2001 Indians
2004 Marlins
2013 Nationals
2014 Mariners
2015 Royals
San Diego State University Booster Pack

2 point feeders
1877 Red Stockings
1887 Browns
1901 Giants
1917 Yankees
1920 Brooklyn Robins
1920 Red Sox
1921 Browns
1921 White Sox
1929 Senators
1938 Pirates
1946 Indians
1953 Tigers
1965 Yankees
1968 As
1974 Angels
1974 Phillies
1976 Expos
1980 Cardinals
1984 Indians
1988 Brewers
1990 Royals
1992 Rangers
1994 Dodgers
2001 Rangers
2002 Blue Jays
2002 Reds
2003 expos
2007 Mariners
2008 Rockies
East Central University Booster Pack


1 point
1889 White Stockings
1903 White Sox
1915 Braves
1915 Newark Pepper
1916 Cardinals
1917 As
1926 Indians
1932 White Sox
1933 Browns
1941 Senators
1948 Phillies
1955 Reds
1957 Pirates
1965 Astros
1970 Royals
1974 Brewers
1974 Padres
1975 Braves
1980 Blue Jays
1981 Padres
1982 Mariners
1984 Twins
1992 yankees
1994 Angels
1994 Tigers
1999 Royals
1999 Twins
2001 Rockies
2002 Padres
2007 Rays
2008 As
2010 Diamondbacks
2011 Astros
2015 Marlins
2016 Kansas City Stars
North Carolina Tar Heels Booster pack


Participating Teams
1. Fair Games
2. Giovanni Volttiani's Baseball Resorgimento
3. Thaddeus Mansfeld Madman's Excelling Ballmen
4. Theodore Kildare Bomber's Playing Men of Gentlemanly Skill
5. Jampact's Backup Kenseis
6. pungry made a team
7. Stalin
8. Cthulhu, in theory.
9. I will fight Nissin Cup Nudist

Smasher Dynamo fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jun 22, 2017

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Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Hello I made the feeder list so if you have questions please direct them my way.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

Paul Zuvella posted:

Hello I made the feeder list so if you have questions please direct them my way.

Does the MLB The Show pack include all the Blue Jays that are on the Canadian covers for some dumb reason

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Yaya posted:

Does the MLB The Show pack include all the Blue Jays that are on the Canadian covers for some dumb reason

Yes, you also get both Joe Mauers

FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

Craig, forgive me for not taking either of the available Pucketts.

Team post to follow, but reserving the following teams (11 points):

1891 Phillies (3)
1926 Indians (1)
2015 Marlins (1)
1921 White Sox (2)
1979 Angels (3)
1941 Senators (1)

Craig K
Nov 10, 2016

puck
Welcome I'm CraigK and I'll be running the league in between dota matches and path of exile farming Deal With It

GVOLTT
Dec 27, 2012

Honestly, I don't know what I want to put here, so I'm going with this.
1999 Atlanta Braves - 4 I have switched to the 1942 Red Sox for the same point value.
1965 Chicago Cubs - 3
1938 Pittsburgh Pirates - 2
2001 Texas Rangers - 2

GVOLTT fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Jun 18, 2017

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
1958 NL All Stars (5)
1998 Red Sox (3)
1994 Dodgers (2)
1916 Cardinals (1)

Craig K
Nov 10, 2016

puck

GVOLTT posted:

1991 Atlanta Braves - 4

not in the pool, i assume you meant '99 braves?

FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

Craig K posted:

not in the pool, i assume you meant '99 braves?

Can you blame a guy for wanting Lonnie Smith and Charlie Liebrandt?

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

FairGame posted:

Can you blame a guy for wanting Lonnie Smith and Charlie Liebrandt?

Should have put more Lonnie Smith feeders in

Craig K
Nov 10, 2016

puck
SOMEONE SAID LONNIE SMITH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTM_eN8AZeQ

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011


This is pretty good

TKBomber7285
Feb 20, 2011
Alright, time to try and build another team.

1990 NL All-Stars (4)
1917 Phillies (3)
1929 Senators (2)
1984 Twins (1)
1974 Brewers (1)

TKBomber7285 fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jun 18, 2017

FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

Alright, let's get this in so I can ignore it for a few weeks until the EC starts or whatever.

TEAM NAME: Motorville Mites
LOGO:
MASCOT:
HOME CITY: The Fairy Ground
HOME STADIUM: Mr. Drippy Field. I'll see if I want to cook a ballpark after the EC. For now, put them in Busch Stadium circa 1987.
DH PREFERENCE: No DH for meaningful games. For the EC, I'd like everyone to be DH since it allows us to learn about 1 more hitter on our rosters. But whatever works for you.
30-Man Roster
code:
seweljo01,1926,,,,Joe,Sewell
speaktr01,1926,,,,Tris,Speaker
uhlege01,1926,,,,George,Uhle
burnsge02,1926,,,,George,Burns
myerbu01,1941,,,,Buddy,Myer
travice01,1941,,,,Cecil,Travis
ferreri01,1941,,,,Rick,Ferrell
chapmbe01,1941,,,,Ben,Chapman
leonadu02,1941,,,,Dutch,Leonard
pradoma01,2015,,,,Martin,Prado
stantmi03,2015,,,,Giancarlo,Stanton
ramosaj01,2015,,,,A.J.,Ramos
dysonsa01,2015,,,,Sam,Dyson
fernajo02,2015,,,,Jose,Fernandez
cishest01,2015,,,,Steve,Cishek
barraky01,2015,,,,Kyle,Barraclough
hoopeha01,1921,,,,Harry,Hooper
collied01,1921,,,,Eddie,Collins
faberre01,1921,,,,Red,Faber
downibr01,1979,,,,Brian,Downing
carewro01,1979,,,,Rod,Carew
grichbo01,1979,,,,Bobby,Grich
ryanno01,1979,,,,Nolan,Ryan
tananfr01,1979,,,,Frank,Tanana
larocda01,1979,,,,Dave,LaRoche
schalra01,1921,,,,Ray,Schalk
delahed01,1891,,,,Ed,Delahanty
thompsa01,1891,,,,Sam,Thompson
hamilbi01,1891,,,,Billy,Hamilton
keefeti01,1891,,,,Tim,Keefe
LINEUPS:
Vs. BOTH
Hamilton, RF
Collins, 2B
Speaker, CF
Delahanty, LF
Carew, 1B
Travis, 3B
Downing, C
Sewell, SS
Hooper, DH (if we end up going no-DH, just drop Hooper from the lineup and bat the pitcher.

BENCH:
Schalk, C
Grich, 2B
Prado, UT
Chapman, OF
Myer, UT

MINORS:
Dyson, RP
Stanton, OF
Thompson, OF
Burns, 1B
Ferrell, C

STARTING PITCHING
1.) Faber
2.) Ryan
3.) Keefe
4.) Fernandez
5.) Tanana

BULLPEN
CL: Ramos
SU: Barraclough
SR1: Cishek
SR2: LaRoche
MR: Leonard
LR: Uhle

SLIDERS
Hit and Run: +4
Sacrifice Bunt: +1
Squeeze Play: +1
Trying for extra bases: +3
Stealing Bases: +3
Aggressively Tagging Up: +3
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): 0
Giving Intentional Walks: 0
Pitching Around Good Hitters: 0
Bringing the Infield In: 0
Guarding the Lines: 0
Making Cutoff Throws: -2
Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -3
Bringing in Pinch Runners: -3
Bringing in Defensive Replacements: -3
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: 0
Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: 2
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: 1

FairGame fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Jun 22, 2017

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

The East Central University Booster Pack links to the alumni page for the East Carolina University. You should probably clarify what you mean with this, mks.

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

TheMcD posted:

The East Central University Booster Pack links to the alumni page for the East Carolina University. You should probably clarify what you mean with this, mks.

It's supposed to link to this http://www.baseball-almanac.com/college/east_central_university_baseball_players.shtml

Jampact
Jun 3, 2008
1933 Yankees
6 World Series MVPs
North Carolina Tar Heels Booster pack

This is going to be brutal.

Pungry
Feb 26, 2011

JUST PICK ONE. ANY ONE.
1934 Crawfords (5)
1983 Phillies (3)
2013 Nats (3)

Time to die.

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Jampact posted:

1933 Yankees
6 World Series MVPs
North Carolina Tar Heels Booster pack

This is going to be brutal.

Thank you for picking my weird gimmick feeders

Jampact
Jun 3, 2008

Paul Zuvella posted:

Thank you for picking my weird gimmick feeders

Not 100% sold on the North Carolina team but I reserve the right to swap :)

shepard.shouldgo
Feb 2, 2016

Jampact posted:

Not 100% sold on the North Carolina team but I reserve the right to swap :)

Honestly that might not be the worst option, its pick your own year and gives you a bunch of maybe usable bullpen options. and oh boy does your team need bullpen arms.

TKBomber7285
Feb 20, 2011
Time to have a completely new team under my control for the 1st time since Super-League 12 that hopefully doesn't remind me why I hate picking teams from the feeders in the first place.

Team Name: Everett Eagles
Home City: Everett, MA (Just put Boston if Mogul doesn't recognize it)
Logo:
Home Stadium The Eagle's Nest (Atlanta–Fulton County Stadium)
DH Preference I'd prefer DH, but will go to the non-DH league if a team is needed

30-man roster
gwynnto01,1990,,,,Tony,Gwynn
bondsba01,1990,,,,Barry,Bonds
clarkwi02,1990,,,,Will,Clark
cronijo01,1929,,,,Joe,Cronin
puckeki01,1984,,,,Kirby,Puckett
sandbry01,1990,,,,Ryne,Sandberg
stockmi01,1917,,,,Milt,Stock
porteda02,1974,,,,Darrell,Porter
myerbu01,1929,,,,Buddy,Myer
yountro01,1974,,,,Robin,Yount
gosligo01,1929,,,,Goose,Goslin
santibe01,1990,,,,Benito,Santiago
gaettga01,1984,,,,Gary,Gaetti
bonilbo01,1990,,,,Bobby,Bonilla
alexape01,1917,,,,Pete,Alexander
bendech01,1917,,,,Chief,Bender
violafr01,1990,,,,Frank,Viola
martide01,1990,,,,Dennis,Martinez
rixeyep01,1917,,,,Eppa,Rixey
francjo01,1990,,,,John,Franco
dibblro01,1990,,,,Rob,Dibble
smithda02,1990,,,,Dave,Smith
brantje01,1990,,,,Jeff,Brantley
rodried01,1974,,,,Eduardo,Rodriguez
martira02,1990,,,,Ramon,Martinez
smithoz01,1990,,,,Ozzie,Smith
scottge02,1974,,,,George,Scott
jonessa01,1929,,,,Sad Sam,Jones
sciosmi01,1990,,,,Mike,Scioscia
ricesa01,1929,,,,Sam,Rice

Lineups
With DH
DH Tony Gwynn
1B Will Clark
LF Barry Bonds
RF Goose Goslin
CF Kirby Puckett
SS Joe Cronin
2B Ryne Sandberg
3B Milt Stock
C Darrell Porter

Without DH
RF Tony Gwynn
1B Will Clark
LF Barry Bonds
CF Kirby Puckett
SS Joe Cronin
2B Ryne Sandberg
3B Milt Stock
C Darrell Porter
Pitcher

Pitchers
SP Pete Alexander
SP Chief Bender
SP Frank Viola
SP Dennis Martinez
SP Eppa Rixey
CL John Franco
SU Rob Dibble
SR Dave Brantley
SR Dave Smith
MR Eduardo Rodriguez
LR Ramon Martinez

Bench
Robin Yount
Buddy Myer
Goose Goslin (No DH)
Benito Santiago
Gary Gaetti
Bobby Bonilla

Minors
Ozzie Smith
George Scott
Sad Sam Jones
Mike Scioscia
Sam Rice

Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5)

Hit and Run: +1
Sacrifice Bunt: -5
Squeeze Play: -5
Trying for extra bases: 0
Stealing Bases: -2
Aggressively Tagging Up: -1
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -1
Giving Intentional Walks: 0
Pitching Around Good Hitters: 0
Bringing the Infield In: 0
Guarding the Lines: 0
Making Cutoff Throws: 0
Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -3
Bringing in Pinch Runners: -3
Bringing in Defensive Replacements: -3
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -5
Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: 0
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: 0

TKBomber7285 fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Jun 18, 2017

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




For the AL CY Young pack, they Cy Young covered both leagues until 1967. If I wanted a pre-67 winner, would he had to have been from an AL team?

shepard.shouldgo
Feb 2, 2016

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

For the AL CY Young pack, they Cy Young covered both leagues until 1967. If I wanted a pre-67 winner, would he had to have been from an AL team?

pretty sure its just the 1967 onward players since the "AL Cy Young" didn't exist till then

also because thats how MKS talked about the feeder

GVOLTT
Dec 27, 2012

Honestly, I don't know what I want to put here, so I'm going with this.
Team Name: Cape Cod Great Whites
Team Logo:
Home City: Orleans, MA
Home Stadium: Eldredge Park (even though it's a real park, it probably needs to be custom-made, here's the dimensions: 314-350-434-359-314)

DH Preference: Yes

Feeders:
1942 Red Sox - 4
1965 Cubs - 3
1938 Pirates - 2
2001 Rangers - 2

Roster:
code:
Batting:
Pos. 	Player			Source	ID
C	Ivan Rodriguez '01	Feeder	rodriiv01
1B	Jimmie Foxx '42		Feeder	foxxji01
2B	Bobby Doerr '42		Feeder	doerrbo01
SS	Arky Vaughan '38	Feeder	vaughar01
3B	Ron Santo '65		Feeder	santoro01
LF	Ted Williams '42	Feeder	willite01
CF	Lloyd Waner '38		Feeder	wanerll01
RF	Paul Waner '38		Feeder	wanerpa01
DH	Billy Williams '65	Feeder	willibi01

Bench:
C	Ed Bailey '65		Feeder	baileed01
OF	Heinie Manush '38	Feeder	manushe01
SS/1B	Ernie Banks '65		Feeder	bankser01
CF	Dom DiMaggio '42	Feeder	dimagdo01
IF	Michael Young '01	Feeder	youngmi02

Minors:
1B	Rafael Palmeiro '01	Feeder	palmera01
MI	Johnny Pesky '42	Feeder	peskyjo01
SS	Alex Rodriguez '01	Feeder	rodrial01
Pitching:
code:
Pos. 	Player			Source	ID
SP1	Justin Duchscherer '01	Feeder	duchsju01
SP2	Tex Hughson '42		Feeder	hughste01
SP3	Larry Jackson '65	Feeder	jacksla01
SP4	Bill Swift '38		Feeder	swiftbi01
SP5	Cy Blanton '38		Feeder	blantcy01

Bullpen:
CL	Mace Brown '38		Feeder	brownma01
SU	Ted Abernathy '65	Feeder	abernte02
SR	Francisco Cordero '01	Feeder	cordefr01
SR	Mace Brown '42		Feeder	brownma01
MR	Lindy McDaniel '65	Feeder	mcdanli01
LR	Jim Tobin '38		Feeder	tobinji01

Minors:
RP	Jeff Zimmerman '01	Feeder	zimmeje02
SP	Ken Holtzman '65	Feeder	holtzke01
Lineups:
1. Arky Vaughan (SS)
2. Paul Waner (RF)
3. Jimmie Foxx (1B)
4. Ted Williams (LF)
5. Billy Williams (DH)
6. Ron Santo (3B)
7. Bobby Doerr (2B)
8. Ivan Rodriguez (C) (Ed Bailey is the personal catcher for Larry Jackson)
9. Lloyd Waner (vs. RHP)/Dom DiMaggio (vs. LHP) (CF)

Strategy:
code:
Hit and Run	0
Sacrifice Bunt	0
Squeeze Play	-2
Trying for Extra Bases	0
Stealing Bases	-2
Aggressively Tagging Up	+1
Pitch Outs	0
Giving Intentional Walks	0
Pitching Around Good Hitters	+2
Bringing the Infield In	-1
Guarding the Lines	+1
Making Cutoff Throws	+1
Bringing in Pinch Hitters	0
Bringing in Pinch Runners	0
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest	-2
Letting Pitchers Pitch Through Trouble	-1
Letting Pitchers Rack Up High Pitch Counts	0
Defensive Replacements	-2
csv:
code:
#BATTERS
rodriiv01,2001,,,,Ivan,Rodriguez
willibi01,1965,,,,Billy,Williams
doerrbo01,1942,,,,Bobby,Doerr
vaughar01,1938,,,,Arky,Vaughan
santoro01,1965,,,,Ron,Santo
willite01,1942,,,,Ted,Williams
wanerll01,1938,,,,Lloyd,Waner
wanerpa01,1938,,,,Paul,Waner
bankser01,1965,,,,Ernie,Banks
foxxji01,1942,,,,Jimmie,Foxx
manushe01,1938,,,,Heinie,Manush
palmera01,2001,,,,Rafael,Palmeiro
rodrial01,2001,,,,Alex,Rodriguez
youngmi02,2001,,,,Michael,Young
baileed01,1965,,,,Ed,Bailey
peskyjo01,1942,,,,Johnny,Pesky
dimagdo01,1942,,,,Dom,DiMaggio

#PITCHERS
duchsju01,2001,,,,Justin,Duchscherer
hughste01,1942,,,,Tex,Hughson
jacksla01,1965,,,,Larry,Jackson
swiftbi01,1938,,,,Bill,Swift
blantcy01,1938,,,,Cy,Blanton
brownma01,1938,,,,Mace,Brown
abernte02,1965,,,,Ted,Abernathy
cordefr01,2001,,,,Francisco,Cordero
brownma01,1942,,,,Mace,Brown
mcdanli01,1965,,,,Lindy,McDaniel
tobinji01,1938,,,,Jim,Tobin
zimmeje02,2001,,,,Jeff,Zimmerman
holtzke01,1965,,,,Ken,Holtzman

GVOLTT fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Jun 21, 2017

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

For the AL CY Young pack, they Cy Young covered both leagues until 1967. If I wanted a pre-67 winner, would he had to have been from an AL team?

They need to win the American League Cy Young.

GVOLTT
Dec 27, 2012

Honestly, I don't know what I want to put here, so I'm going with this.
Ah, screw it. I'm switching from the 1999 Braves to the 1942 Red Sox.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Paul Zuvella posted:

They need to win the American League Cy Young.

gotcha

For the booster pack players, what years are they? Rookies?

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

gotcha

For the booster pack players, what years are they? Rookies?

You pick

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

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Cool. I pick the

Al Cy Young x 6
Integration Booster
SDSU Booster

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Cool. I pick the

Al Cy Young x 6
Integration Booster
SDSU Booster

You are literally my favorite human ever

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Like poo poo you might have well have selected my children

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

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Does this mean you will rig Mogul in my favor?

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



unluckily for you, CraigK will be running the EC this time, so probably not

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

TheFlyingLlama posted:

unluckily for you, CraigK will be running the EC this time, so probably not

Yeah but CraigK likes fun poo poo so

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
No he plays Dota

Craig K
Nov 10, 2016

puck

Yaya posted:

No he plays Dota

:|

Craig K
Nov 10, 2016

puck
CTHULHU MAKE YOUR loving TEAM TODAY BEFORE YOU "augh all the good feeders were taken i don't want to bother :|||||" FOR THE FIFTH GODDAMNED EC IN A ROW

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FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

Is the integration booster really "first for each team?"

Because "first black players in MLB" is a separate list, and includes Paige and Mays, whereas "first for each team" doesn't.

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