/r/Incels: Japan is far ahead of us in incel science

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mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

a bone to pick posted:

"I can't get laid and its not my fault!"

Sounds like you need Life Alert

# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 12:40

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# ¿ May 4, 2024 18:02

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

There is no way that last one isn't trolling.

# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 14:36

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Adjunct:

(latest chapter of Berserk, poorly translated)

# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 15:27

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

spasticColon posted:

Lock or barricade yourself in your mancave (your mother's basement) but make sure to have enough soda and junk food (Mountain Dew and Cheetos) in order to outlast the siege of the Stacys.

Edit: holy poo poo, this needs to be made into a video game.

Yes. It really loving does. You have to stealth your way upstairs to the kitchen without being noticed and having to fumble through dialogue interactions if you are. You can masturbate to relieve anxiety--the closer you are to Stacys the more it relieves you--but it also makes you sleepier. Come on goons flesh this out.

# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 19:35

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Ein cooler Typ posted:

are you attractive

Not in the slightest yet I fall rear end-backwards into dates and relationships. It's really not that hard if you do literally anything with your life and engage other people.

# ¿ Jun 24, 2017 01:59

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

It's well-known all girls go through this phase:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yxrc2W-czA

then Clark Kent their way through life.

Incels in this equation are Jimmy Olsen, jerking it in the closet.

# ¿ Jun 24, 2017 12:48

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

timefly posted:

Uhh, look at his body though? And he could still be considered ruggedly handsome by some

"Girls like the roided-out Gorilla type"

/ignores that Vin Diesel is a turbonerd who literally got his D&D fanfiction made into an international film release.

# ¿ Jun 24, 2017 17:02

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Literally A Person posted:

They are quite literally quaking in their space boots even thinking about the vagina in it's natural habitat. These are people who have been conditioned to believe that maleness is defined by a rigid code that involves them having power over women through sexual domination (chadliness), that code is hyper-realized on the internet echo chamber and before long people who were just in the closet bend their brains backward to create excuses that still allow them to obey the code (in a semantic sense) and yet never engage in heterosexual sex or intimacy.

Or they're manchildren raised with developmental neglect and enabled by the hive mentality the internet breeds, disjointed from heterosexual norms at the earliest possible ages thanks to immediate porn access and subsequently encouraged to avoid challenging their comfort zones. From this spoiled soil and cosmic indifference springs a mentally and emotionally septic feedback loop that twists the only examples of masculinity they've ever imbibed--media representation--into a codification that they refuse to discharge because their warped minds have been conditioned to see sexual domination (chad) as an antagonistic force that their sexual sensitivity is meant to overcome. Once they realize that the world does not owe them a hero's journey with a hot girl as a trophy, and the hot girls of the world have their own lives, they rationalize the problem into being a toxic world alongside their deepening self-hatred which explodes with pathetic whimpering because their libidos reflexively fight them (and usually win).

Or they all secretly want cock. I don't know. I think if that's what they really wanted there would be way more of them sucking each other off instead of trying to build sexbots or w/e.

# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 02:34

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Kung Food posted:

In 4chan, one of the worst places on the internet, there are dudes that are too nerdy, pathetic and gross to hang around, so a wheelchair bound dwarf with the same disease as Sam Jackson from Unbreakable created 8chan, a place the worst of the worst could converse freely. Even in that place there were dudes who stood out as scummier than the rest, so the same dwarf bought a site called wizardchan for them to go. On wizardchan only hopeless NEETs and virgins are allowed to post and you will be banned if it is found you are not either. Turns out that despite being stunted, stuck in a wheelchair with brittle bone disease, the owner somehow managed to get himself laid. Once this was discovered the entire community turned on him and he had to leave the forums that he owned. The End.

If this is true this is the funniest poo poo I've heard all week.

# ¿ Jun 26, 2017 03:13

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZoD8JEFjAE

# ¿ Jun 26, 2017 19:43

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

There are definitely loads of fakeposts, but you don't need too look far to find similar stuff.

# ¿ Jun 27, 2017 01:55

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Imagined posted:

God drat, 90% of these guys could be cured with the same advice.

1. Stop reading this redpill/incel poo poo.
2. Get your mental illness treated
3. Get a haircut
4. Take a shower
5. Develop a loving activity that doesn't involve being in your room or in the company of other hopeless manchildren. Get a job. Join the army. Find a coed club. loving go to church, anything.
6. Stop thinking you deserve a partner who's better looking than yourself.

But where does the victim complex fit in? :psyduck:

# ¿ Jul 11, 2017 00:48

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Bogan King posted:

You don't have to worry about that fitting in. It will make the room it needs.

Sounds like my first time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-cT58rgNc

# ¿ Jul 11, 2017 01:03

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Pththya-lyi posted:

Why would someone need to "pretend to be someone else" in order to develop a hobby?

"I am vain, arrogant, and more than a little narcissistic, and having to grow beyond these flaws involves a level of acting, compromise, and fortitude I am not capable of."

# ¿ Jul 11, 2017 02:53

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Wait is that actually a thing? Christ

# ¿ Jul 11, 2017 14:12

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

You'd think if it were so hopeless they'd work to chemically suppress their libidos so they're no longer bothered by the craving for sex.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 02:13

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

A minor but overlooked tangent is the fact that some of these guys were the unseen voice in this picture:

And have yet to understand why their unprompted flattery was met with contempt.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 12:26

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Pick posted:

this is 99% of men so

Point.

My Linux Rig posted:

They'll never grasp this concept, as giving flattery to a woman at all is a rarity for them

I'm willing to bet loads of them try flattery as kids/teenagers/young men and are aghast that showing basic standards of decency--and badly at that--isn't successful. Then they do the whole "turn inwards, refuse to change, blame the world" shtick that turns them into human septic tanks.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 13:41

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Sentient Data posted:

Wow, you look great!... for it being a Wednesday

Y'know every February 3rd you look kind-of dumpy, but this year I've got to say you've really pulled it together.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 15:41

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Pac-Manioc Root posted:

*in a cowboy curtis voice*
what if i told u... u could get laid without treating it like a scientologist doing a magic spell?

Get out of here flim flam we ain't buying your zim zam

# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 15:42

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

spacetoaster posted:

Here: http://images.kw.com/docs/2/1/2/212345/1285134779158_htwfaip.pdf

You're welcome.

Y'know, while this remains immensely useful I do wonder why so many people treat it like a panacea.

SaltyJesus posted:

This can come across as generic, like you're reading off a conversational checklist. The better move, if a little harder because it requires some sensitivity and attentiveness, is to try to spot something she seems to be proud of or that she has emphasized / clearly put some amount of work into and then compliment that.

Yeah rule of thumb for compliments-- compliment something that took effort, not something that is endemic to the person. For example-- "You have nice boobs" versus "I really like the effort you put into your push-up bra and cardigan today. It really makes your cleavage pop. And if there's foundation or other makeup on your chest I'd never be able to tell."

# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 16:54

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Benny Harvey posted:

How about noticing changes in make-up, yay or nay?

"Hey I noticed your eyeliner today." Say absolutely no more, even under duress.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 18:07

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

jfc I was making a joke about being ambiguous in perceiving her eyeliner. Did you think she had nice eyeliner today versus other days? Did she screw it up and you're being a pal and pointing it out? Are you just weird and making a statement? What is it? Eyeliner is tough to apply well and instead of teaching someone who to give a compliment I'm advocating a socially inept technique that can foster resentment and insecurity. Boom frog dissected thank you very much.

Apparently this thread is now a multi-layered irony competition to see which forum poster has the true secret to giving good compliments. The key takeaway seems to be to not overthink it by posting a ton of thoughts about not overthinking it.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 18:20

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Hollismason posted:

Most of these people.are most likely self diagnosed as being autistic because that's the only way to explain that behavior.

It is a special brand of mosquito-annoying when losers try to justify their awful behavior with autism, self-diagnosed or otherwise. I'm autistic, and it doesn't excuse poo poo. When I'm a poo poo person I'm a poo poo person. Autism just explains particular ways I can be a poo poo person. It doesn't preclude emotional maturity nor learned theory of mind, and incels who co-opt the term (and the teenage refuse that mocks them with said term) make it that much loving harder to be autistic in society.

Literally A Person posted:

I think shower may have to come after intense psychotherapy.

Psychotherapy while they shower. Hard to posture and be tough when your therapist watches you soap the underside of your moobs.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2017 23:19

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Part of it is young male libido really can drive the sexually maladjusted insane. Until I aged past 25 and my hormones calmed the gently caress down, I didn't realize just how much damage they were doing on my perception of the world. Guys who can never get laid must have it even worse, like a fidget spinner (topical 2017 reference) shredding what little rational capacity they have.

green chicken feet posted:

I think it's because if you gender swapped incels and their arguments, making a few modifications, a female incel would actually be correct more often than a male incel. Plus women don't generally go on shooting sprees or advocate rape, so there's that... but anyway

Male incel: women don't appreciate me because they don't care about intelligence and they don't want romance. They just want hot NSA sex with that big-dicked guy Chad.

Female incel: men don't appreciate me because they don't care about intelligence and they don't want romance. They just want hot NSA sex with that big-boobed girl Stacey.

Neither statement could possibly apply all across the board, but one of them is more often accurate than the other.

Ugly but true.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2017 15:14

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Pick posted:

Because I think we're witnessing the problem and there will be pushback, there's always a pendulum on this poo poo.

Nah. When a 2+ job for each parent in the average household and unfettered internet access from preschool onward is the norm, the kids aren't going to grow up any smarter.

green chicken feet posted:

[quote="Literally A Person" post="474652380"]

Where oh where is this >5'6" out-of-shape east Asian who is broke, lives with her parents, has small tits and rear end, a child, a ceramics and pottery certificate, and can't hold a conversation? :allears:

I have this sudden compulsion to tell her how much better I am than her.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2017 03:09

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Zzulu posted:

Elliot Rodgers barely spoke to anyone so if these guys are a lot like him they probably never had a conversation with a girl outside of service jobs, like a girl at McDonalds asking for their order

Scientists should tag the ears of every guy who falls in love when the barista remembers that the 20-something who always wears his Adventure Time shirt likes his mocha with extra whip and a dog turd.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2017 11:58

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Meme Emulator posted:

I have a sudden compulsion to ask her out on a date

Where do you rank on the scale of Chadliness?

Significant Ant posted:

it’s super funny because countries with really lovely opinions on gender (such as Russian, Ukraine, and a bunch of Eastern European shitholes) do a better job of getting women into STEM than we do

S'true. Most of the really strong STEM women I've met tended to be Eastern European or Asian, and were encouraged into the field at a young age. Practical desperation > Sexism it seems. I think it would help if a lot of STEM courses I've been in didn't give off such a dry, sterile vibe. It's like a Sisyphean recursion loop that Maths teachers are required to constantly prove math is useful/fun to kids with no progress ever made.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2017 12:52

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

green chicken feet posted:

Mr. Elliot Rodgers' Neighborhood is not a very pleasant place.

Sounds like an aborted SNL sketch.

quote:

But this redditor has "heard of" women who slept with Chads who beat their boyfriends into comas, and if there's anything I like to base my worldviews on, it's urban legends!

But big guys are scary :ohdear:

they take my lunch money and make fun of my Star Wars and

# ¿ Jul 24, 2017 17:33

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

green chicken feet posted:

They have no compassion for anyone not also an incel. Yet they expect other people to have compassion for them.

I don't think they want other people to have compassion. If they did it would actually challenge them to change, grow, and take responsibility for their shortcomings. They've conditioned themselves to getting off to bemoaning the lack of compassion to the point where it's a reflex much like actual masturbation, and forgotten that "compassion" != "coddling/indulging."

It doesn't help that many people are buttfucking terrible at showing compassion even when they have it/want to, because it involves validating a viewpoint they might find reprehensible and it's easy to confuse "validation" with "coddling/indulgence," complicated even further when many given validation are eager to abuse it.

mind the walrus fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Aug 6, 2017

# ¿ Aug 6, 2017 17:52

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

green chicken feet posted:

Good observation, because people do visit the subreddit showing compassion in trying to help the incels, generally by providing advice or personal stories to dispel misconceptions. These well-meaning souls are generally driven out because they don't tell the incels what they want to hear.

I was one of those people before I really knew what "incel" was. I saw /r/ForeverUnwanted and replied to some post about my own dating life and how poo poo isn't totally hopeless even if you are a loser. I was banned with a PM that simply said "gently caress you."

Literally A Person posted:

Asylums? Okay, asylums.

/r/Incels: Asylums? Ok, asylums.

green chicken feet posted:

I think there is a lot of mental illness in the mix, or spectrum disorders. But I would bet most of these guys have, if anything, been over-coddled or neglected rather than physically/mentally abused.

I'm no psychologist, but their "I should get everything I want with no effort" mentality says spoiled brat to me.

100%. Constants I've noticed are abusive/absent/neglectful father figures and unchecked time spent with media. I don't think it's a coincidence these communities have seen a sharp spike in activity in the last 25 years when media quantity/access exploded, latchkey kids/divorced parents became much more common, and the internet allowed unfettered commiseration.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2017 18:32

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

I am like 99% sure I read it somewhere else and it lodged into my brain before reusing it.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2017 18:37

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Supercondescending posted:

Like re: "all women are atrracted to Chads" lmao I've always been attracted to super glam twinkish 80's hair metal types. Gimme David Bowie in Labyrinth or like, 1989 Sebastian Bach. I bet they both have sub-par clavicles and thin wrists. I've never understood incel's insistence that we all want roided out meat bricks.

Edit: then again I'm 30 and not a virgin so what does a used up roastie like me know

Infinite intermediate Steps--coincidentally a good glam rock album name:

They can categorize Bowie or other rock stars as some subspecies of Chad or Sapphic pseudo-male/futanari thing, given that Bowie and others had visible massive meat rods.

# ¿ Sep 22, 2017 06:49

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Zzulu posted:

yeah but they dont want stronger bones, they want prettier bones

Are there any like, anatomy pictures of what the hell the actual incels are talking about? Like is there some "ideal skeleton" they can point to versus an "incel skeleton" like the 21st Century Phrenologists they are?

# ¿ Sep 22, 2017 14:51

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

It's like a billboard for a roach hotel

# ¿ Oct 5, 2017 15:50

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Koyaanisgoatse posted:

what a bunch of god drat pedophiles

# ¿ Oct 7, 2017 05:44

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

It really doesn't help that the majority of women they see with any regularity are porn and exhibition - related.

# ¿ Oct 8, 2017 05:49

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

I can almost sympathize with them because after I broke up with a girlfriend in high school she became really promiscuous and a percentage of young women I've known like to hook up with attractive guys on the down low whenever they feel like it, and it is hard to accept at first..

...but it's one of those things that isn't morally wrong and completely out of your control. So unless you can let go and stop making sex and the approval of women your focal point for self-esteem you'll end up like, well these creeps.

# ¿ Oct 8, 2017 08:14

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Well that's just it. They're a generation of boys taught that they're the protagonist of their lives and by extension the world, and can't reconcile that latent narcissistic value with the realities of life. I was lucky to be broken of that mentality when I was young. Incels have created an ouroboros of septic affirmations that has them running nowhere and fast.

I don't know about girls that like casual sex all having rock bottom self-esteem though. Some must by law of averages, but whatever their underlying reason it's their choice and has poo poo all to do with me or my approval.

# ¿ Oct 8, 2017 12:24

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# ¿ May 4, 2024 18:02

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

fruit on the bottom posted:

To be fair, everyone literally is the protagonist of their own life.

Yes but not of the world. That's the point.

# ¿ Oct 9, 2017 03:08

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