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I really dont like cuck I dont know how that and bacon became a internet/nerd thing. I feel really lucky the internet was what it was back when I was young I might have gone down that stupid rabbit hole. hell I remember reading some rant from a play about "nice guys" on the net back in 99. Here is a fun goony story. back in my late teens early 20's a friend of mine who I call a "booty hound" and these fucks would call a chad. hit on a shy nerd girl got her pining for him. He lost interest and spun her off to me. We talked and figured it out and it was alittle akward but we hit it off and liked eachother. She got dramatic over something and "broke up with me" but it was a heat of the moment kinda thing. (also a big red flag) she then went off to gently caress my friend call me crying and confessing saying while sobbing "I dont blame you if you never want to talk to me again" I was a insecure moron and I pushed to keep the relationship going after that. Its one of the few points in my life where I wish I had a father figure to explain to me that it doesnt matter if we were broke up, or not, and point out that I was just rule lawyering the situation out of my own fear of being alone. The fact they did that means they both dont respect me and I needed to walk away. God help me if I was in reddit in that situation in this day and age. Anyway my relationship with her went down and pile of flames, but oddly enough or last conversation she told me that she saw a therapist and basically me and my family were very nice to her, nicer than her own family and she couldnt handle it. she felt she didnt deserve it and was trying to sabotage everything. In fact I would wager that the incels are the way they are because thats how they see themselves.
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HAT FETISH posted:My thinking is that it's a mixture of responding badly to the insecurity that comes free with being raised into a culture that values superficial signs of "success" + having a lifestyle that affords you the time to get sucked into weird internet bullshit and doesn't pressure you to get the gently caress out there and take character-building risks. Not saying that mental illness and massive personality defects are magically absent in working class populations, just that they tend not to manifest as an obsession with making sadweird reddit posts There is a blog by a "reformed incel" I rather like. Because his eyes are open to why he couldnt get laid but he really blames feminism rather than himself https://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/confessions-of-a-reformed-incel/ quote:Feminism taught me a lot throughout the 80’s and 90’s. It taught me not to question women’s sexual choices. It taught me to treat them with deference and respect. It taught me not to accost them for sex aggressively, but to treat them as human beings. It taught me that i MUST control my shallow, greedy, dangerous impulses but allow a woman the right to indulge in hers. It taught me to be nice for the sake of being nice and not expecting sex in return. To give all my emotional and platonic ability and not dare ask for intimacy in return. So he understands what he is/was I dont think these red pill/ incels have this level of self awareness quote:My issue was i always believed i was not handsome, rugged or built well enough to attract initial attention. I had poor self image. All the advice to the contrary, telling me I WAS OK AS I WAS allowed me to abdicate my responsibility to start working on that issue. It led me to believe people should like me for who i am, not what my exterior presents. My first cross to bear. Instead of working to fix my skin deep issues and develop a greater sense of self worth, i continued listening to that advice to find one who would appreciate me for my ‘nice‘ qualities instead. Yeah thats a common troop in media and I do wonder what effect it has. quote:Confidence doesn’t come from inside as i had been lied to over the years. It grows over time through external validations of success. If you repeat the success you become more confident. Fail enough times and the confidence suffers. Just be confident they said, loving idiots. Nailing this stripper and nailing her like a boss did the trick! yeah you go bro quote:With the knowledge i acquired, the discipline of weight training and building up a body i am proud of and not ashamed of, learning how to be social, burying the beta and believing in my worth i finally am at a point in life where I have changed my views and outlook. I am not ruled by pussy.. i conquer it on my terms or leave it to it’s own useless fate. I’ve adopted an MGTOW lifestyle, do things with myself in mind first and foremost following my own imperative, will only entertain relationships with women who qualify themselves to me by bringing more to the table than pretty looks and a vagina, else they just get a pump n dump. The ability to not blink when i destroyed my final toxic LJBFzone relationship with an emotional vampire who expected all the benefits of relationship without returning what i needed. STDH.txt
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Is there anime for incels?
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Jun 25, 2017 20:04
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everyone is a bad poster we got poo poo in the title son
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The Ranger posted:I just read this whole sad thread cover to cover and this was the most insightful post in it. Its funny I was talking with a friend from highschool, Turns out he didnt know the story about how I lost my parents when I was young. Anyway I asked if his father was good about teaching him regarding girls etc. He said no, but he had older friends/boss and people who mentored him. I think one problem is these incels dont get their hearts broken early enough. I think they get sheltered too much. If someone is lovely to you young enough you learn that yeah people can be lovely, and omg there are ways to deal with it. Worse is when they do have interactions with girls they have all this bullshit internalized *beep boop* biotruth female do X get Y sadly thats not how it works. Then they get bitter about "chads" because they break the rules they ve been told to follow only those rules dont loving work, then they turn all red pill and poo poo. I've personally seen nice stable intelligent men fail in relationships and marriages, gently caress I know a 300+ laldy who ran away from a very nice skinny jewish husband with a real job, for a poppa johns delivery boy, but cause he would spount jr high level poo poo like "if you die I would kill myself and burry our hearts next to eachother" etc. There isnt really a force in our culture teaching good values yeah masculinity can be toxic as all hell, but I m not really seeing some of the good points, like being confident and standing up for self.
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Pick posted:I think you are mostly right, but I think that you are still missing a few things. Sure, the delivery boy might be an idiot, but ultimately he knows that the most effective thing you can do for another person is to make them feel important and feel special. Her previous husband might've been intelligent in many ways, but he is kind of dumb if he hadn't figured that out. It doesn't matter if you love another person if you don't communicate it to them. Ultimately, most people will go to where they feel loved. Hey pick glade your okay but HAHAHA....HAHAHA I wont continue the story of the lady or giving any more information on her, for fear of doxx'ing her, but she didnt have a happily ever after with the pizza dude, or the dude after that, or the dude after that or the two marriages after that. So I am engaged right, I've also been in some pretty lovely lovely relationships and I will man up and admit that i ve been both the lovely person in some and the receiver in others. My gf resents that she is paying for the mistakes of my ex's (her words) and I got a friends mom saying "its all about compromise" and other women saying "you just need to communicate" I just laugh at them and say "gently caress no" For dinner she wants chinese? you want mexican? you compromise and get Italian? WTF Compromise is not a panacea, I've seen first hand a friend wanted a hard mattress and his wife wanted a soft mattress so they compromised and spent a few years both sleeping lovely and finally got their own beds She wants to go to paris for vacation you want to go to germany so you go to spain? You wanna have kids she doesnt wanna have kids? I've loving seen that one play out, there is no loving compromise in that issue, and it got loving ugly. gently caress I lost that relationship cause I flat out told them "this isnt something you can compromise on, poo poo it happened in my extended family and it was a god drat deal breaker" Communication? That can make poo poo a million times worse In my youth I believed in being emotionally available to my gf, in telling everything in being open. I learned you dont tell them poo poo about your ex's period and that its best to  Because the truth is she doesnt need to know, she might want to know or think she wants to know but that knowledge will not make her happy. I finally got that lesson from two experiences when I've had partners out of the loving blue bring up my ex's, Like literally out of the blue they are angry that I was with that black girl in college, I was stunned going "I never bring up your two marriages why are you bringing that up?" Then years later a woman I've had a long and unhealthy relationship with started bring up my ex's name in angry texts. That time I had the sense to say "Those are my ex's name and I was with them, that is my past, nothing will ever change it, and I will never apologize for it, bringing it up doesnt hurt me or really matter." The other reason I hate the "just communicate" advice is that they never loving mention something even more important YOU CAN NEVER TAKE IT BACK Be loving careful about what you say. Me and the girl had a thing happen. The result was her crying and me in whirlwind of anger/depression/rejection. I kept my mouth shut because I knew expressing how I felt in the moment would not be constructive and it would be best to wait and see how I felt later, and honestly that issue has been worked on and improved. Okay to swing back around to incels my idea is that they start at some point in their youth with a hosed up socialization. I bet the internet has exacerbated this, as they get older they get more bitter at their failure with girls, and pretty soon they internalize their being losers untill it becomes part of their own identity.
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Enfys posted:I am so important that I cannot waste even a precious minute of my life on social interaction with people unless they can give me exactly what I want. To be fair non goons do value their time. He just wasnt into her and if i saw him i might clock him for gay....and narcissistic
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Jun 28, 2017 19:05
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Pick posted:Look man, this is going to blow your mind, but she's doing what, from her point of view, is probably the smart thing. Oh Pick I wish I could go into greater detail about this woman I really do, and trust me as total stranger on the internet she is not a nice or good person. If I could write out all the poo poo I've seen first hand you would condemn her. But given what happened with kiwifarms I really have to show restraint, I will just ad this. She has a child and I got some front row seat time to her destroying her child, with her selfishness. Instead I will focus on her 2nd husband who lost to a pizza boy, and who she was cheating on at the time. He had incel traits but he was funny and good looking. I would say that he was in love with his misery in the way that only white upper class suburban teenagers can be. He never loving grew out of it. His firist marriage was to a very heavy lady who got sick of his rear end and left him. He then went for the other big lady. (I honestly wonder if he liked fat women or if some part of it was him wanting someone insecure enough to not leave him) What he offered her was this, She didnt have to work, she could have the new car she wanted, the apartment she wanted, trips the themepark she wanted, He did the cleaning the cooking the laundry He got his rear end up at 5 to go to work. In return it was very clear what he wanted from his wife 1) be at home when comes hom 2) Listen to him go over and over about how much of an outcast he was in highschool, and how happy he was to find someone he could truly connect with. (she referred to this tortured pain as and I quote "Emo f*ggot poo poo") Basically I saw a man do everything his wife wanted giver everything she asked for, and in return he wanted his emotional needs met, and she hated him for it, she even said regarding him that "he let me win too easy" So she left him for a string of physically abusiveness assholes. These incels strike me as the next progression in such a mentality, they see that they are told X=Y with girls but it doesnt match reality, They get angry and lacking proper coping skills double down on the mentality that they cant ever score, the deck is just stacked against them and boom its their loving identity. There was a blog I read many many years ago called "the chicks suck guy" it was hosted somewhere I found it back when yahoo was more a directory than a search engine listed in the comedy section. I wish I could find it again and see if there was any overlap with his blog whining about not getting laid and this fuckers on reddit. Edit: found it https://www.amazon.com/My-Struggle-Chicks-Suck-Guy/dp/1401049648 I am gonna check this out and see if there is any overlap Ups_rail fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Who What Now posted:Nobody cares. Not even the silent majority? I guess we'll never know cause they be silent.
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