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oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

I was trying to go to sleep a few minutes ago and for some reason the enormity of these events finally hit me and I couldn't stop crying. I have no real life friends who give a poo poo about professional wrestling, so this is basically the only place I have to express these feelings, but I really feel the need to express them.

I would like this thread to be about our personal feelings about the death of Chris Benoit, and how it has personally affected us. Just TV-IVing about the details as they come in, or wondering about the WWE's future, and all of that bullshit has no place here. I need to write about my feelings about Chris Benoit. Obviously these posts will be mocked elsewhere on the forums, but gently caress em. If you feel the need to say anything, say it.

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Chris Benoit is a murderer. He killed his wife and child. We will probably never know exactly what he was thinking. Obviously I did not know Chris Benoit. I never saw him in person and never spoke to him. But he represented something very special to me. In such a cut-throat, dirty, dark, often disgusting, business he was one of the good ones. When people talked poo poo about wrestling and the bastards involved in it, you could always muffin out Chris Benoit as the exception to the rule. He was the one you could muffin to as a true professional who honored the sport he loved, who was passionate about it, who proved that you could dedicate your life to professional wrestling without being insane or scum or a monster. He was the ace in the hole. He was the one who wasn't in it for the pussy or because he was a failed jock in another sport or because he wanted to get rich quick or because he wanted to be a movie star or because he saw wrestling as a means to an end. He was in it for professional wrestling. He was dedicated to being the best professional wrestler he could be, and it showed in the ring.

I wanted to be a professional wrestler since I was a little kid, and one of the very worst moments of my life was a cold night in San Antonio when I was on the phone to my girlfriend a thousand miles away and finally admitted to myself and to her that coming to Texas to be a wrestler had been a mistake. Coming to grips that I was simply not athletically or charismatically talented enough to be a professional wrestler was one of the worst moments of my life. The business glorifies the boyhood dreams that come true. My boyhood dream wasn't going to come true, and it was an upsetting, soul-crushing revelation that upsets and discourages me to this day.

Since then I lived vicariously through Chris Benoit in a lot of ways. He wasn't a man who was destined to be a WWE champion. He couldn't talk. He wasn't charismatic in the usual way. He was quiet. He was short. The only thing he had going for him was his work ethic. He wasn't a third generation wrestler. He wasn't physically gifted. He wasn't someone who had words come easy to him. But through sheer effort he was able to become one of the greatest professional wrestlers in history. By 40 years-old.

Chris Benoit was only forty, and he was already a legend on the verge of myth. That's how talented he was, and how respected.

I cannot reconcile in my mind that the man who unnecessarily gave back so much to the sport could end his life the way he did. I can't understand how a man could spend weeks and months trying to give back to younger guys like MVP, putting forth the care and effort to help them find their voice in the ring, and that that same man could strangle his wife and child only weeks later. It doesn't make sense. It shouldn't have happened this way. Not for him, not for Nancy, and not for their child.

Chris Benoit owed me nothing. But I still feel the loss. I selfishly lived through many of his accomplishments and now feel lost. I can only speak for myself, but I feel that for a lot of us Mondays and Fridays are rocks of stability in a storm of stress and uncertainty. Every week the show goes on. Every week the show is from somewhere new, somewhere in the world, but every week it comes into our homes.


And that will continue. But Chris Benoit is dead. And he died a murderer. And whether it be insanity, drugs, or just the actions of a clear-eyed monster, what is done is done. And one of the pillars for the guys backstage and one of the pillars for fans is gone. And everything that pillar held up is tainted and dripping with blood.

Chris Benoit was a murderer. And I don't know how to accept that.

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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAR-DurmA6o

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

https://twitter.com/lilbthebasedgod/status/422872450632667136

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


10 years ago, a man hurt bryan danielson's dvd sales

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


10 years ago, chris benoit selfishly robbed daniel bryan of a promising wwe championship run

maybe benoit should have thought about the real victim of his actions

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7YPSbmYkLU

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


if you do steroids to get a push in professional wrestling, you are the scum of the earth

gently caress chris benoit, he robbed far more deserving people (who did not do steroids) like probably bob holly of a wrestlemania main event win

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
kevin sullivan used black magic to possess chris benoit and forced him to kill his family and take his own life

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


Bill Goldberg posted:

kevin sullivan used black magic to possess chris benoit and forced him to kill his family and take his own life

such heroism almost makes up for his booking in 2000

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


for the record the heroism was protecting the world from ever having to watch a disgusting steroid man like chris benoit wrestle, not harming nancy and daniel bryan, which is a bad thing

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Famer Chris Benoit

Tato
Jun 19, 2001

DIRECTIVE 236: Promote pro-social values
10 years ago, a man committed an act that led to Johnny Nitro winning the ECW Championship and being re-branded as the John Morrison, the gatekeeper to the palace of wisdom.

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
The best thing about the Chris Benoit make a post is that it was the default text if you wanted to play Xbox with other goons from this forum. The only other thing I remember is that My bio listed me as the master of the master lock, 'the masterpiece' Chris Masters.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Personally I'm of the opinion that it would have been better if Chris Benoit hadn't gone mad and killed himself and his family. I think he really hosed up in that regard, poor decision to be honest.

RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGHm9-ssr5g

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.
Even today, it's only funny with a bit of distance. When you actually think about the horror and tragedy of it, of course it isn't funny. It's like 9/11 in that regard, except wayyyy sadder

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Kid shoulda tapped

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
nice meltdown

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
Chris Benoit was a bad man


A sad man


Behind blue eyes

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
while its sad that a child lost his life, along with a female, the greatest tragedy was being robbed of seeing Benoit vs. Punk, a match that surely would have been one of the best of all time.

Tato
Jun 19, 2001

DIRECTIVE 236: Promote pro-social values
I'm still shocked WWE didn't decide to stop or yank the broadcast of RAW when things started getting out indicating that the story was not what it appeared to be. I mean, I don't know what they would do with the airtime after airing a portion of a tribute to a guy who murdered his family, but poo poo. What a surreal broadcast.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

chris screwed chris

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

today dan benoit would be 17 years old. almost a full person. but one day he might have been one, 5 to 10 yrs from now, or maybe a mean guy though. but nice would not be off the table, if alive. Who really knows

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Tato posted:

I'm still shocked WWE didn't decide to stop or yank the broadcast of RAW when things started getting out indicating that the story was not what it appeared to be. I mean, I don't know what they would do with the airtime after airing a portion of a tribute to a guy who murdered his family, but poo poo. What a surreal broadcast.

I do think even with WWE's long history of hosed up decisions, it's not fair to judge them based on how they reacted on the night. The whole thing was so surreal and insane that unbelievable and I'm pretty sure those that were still there that night were in complete shock the whole run through.

RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Ten years ago Chris Benoit was found upside down with a fork in his rear end.

21 Hoot Salute
Feb 8, 2005

Night-time, turn around
Lonely is the city tonight
Night-time, all around
Lonely in the city tonight



RIP Paradol Ex

and Nancy and Daniel and hey, Chris Benoit, you mad some bad choices sir

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
So wasnt Benoit brain turned into mush or that was another person?

RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Chris Benoit killed his family
He put Bibles next to their heads
He then decided to take his own life
The dogs are in the pool area

Chris Benoit is dead
Chris Benoit is dead
Chris Benoit is dead
Chris Benoit is dead

Chris Benoit was a murderer
He was the first murdering superstar to win the Royal Rumble

Chris Benoit is dead
Chris Benoit is dead
Chris Benoit is dead
Chris Benoit is dead

[instrumental]

Chris Benoit wore a bra during the murders
It was a lacy and sexy bra
Chris Benoit was very beautiful

Chris Benoit is dead
Chris Benoit is dead
Chris Benoit is dead
Chris Benoit is dead

Rock over London
Rock on, Chicago
Bowflex, because your results matter

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1ToO-6Ue-U&t=342s

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

Cubone posted:

Even today, it's only funny with a bit of distance. When you actually think about the horror and tragedy of it, of course it isn't funny. It's like 9/11 in that regard, except wayyyy sadder

It's bad that an innocent woman and child were murdered but it's funny WWE did a 3 hour tribute to the man who killed them

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

pour one out for a legend

https://youtu.be/RtqIb7Mwal8

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Oct 30, 2009

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I lived vicariously through Chris Benoit and I also murdered my wife and child and committed suicide vicariously through Chris Benoit.

In The Bushes
Mar 4, 2012
Tune in to listen to my seven hour podcast "what if Chris didn't die" an alternative history of the wwe. Don't forget to hit like and subscribe guys thanks guys.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

In The Bushes posted:

Tune in to listen to my seven hour podcast "what if Chris didn't die" an alternative history of the wwe. Don't forget to hit like and subscribe guys thanks guys.

He'd have been arrested for murder.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

In The Bushes posted:

Tune in to listen to my seven hour podcast "what if Chris didn't die" an alternative history of the wwe. Don't forget to hit like and subscribe guys thanks guys.

He'd probably end up in TNA, to be honest

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

EugeneJ posted:

He'd probably end up in TNA, to be honest

Given the plans for him and his own plans this is exceedingly unlikely.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

MassRafTer posted:

Given the plans for him and his own plans this is exceedingly unlikely.

The doctor reports said his heart was enlarged and he would have died within a year anyway, right?

When was his contract up?

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!

EugeneJ posted:

He'd probably end up in TNA, to be honest

Given how TNA's health policy was so much worse than WWE in a bad calender year who knows what might have happened instead.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

EugeneJ posted:

The doctor reports said his heart was enlarged and he would have died within a year anyway, right?

When was his contract up?

He was under contract for at least another year. Nancy wanted him to retire and they had started plans for a wrestling school. WWE wanted him back on Raw the following year and Benoit did not want to retire, so the result is yeah, he dies of the predicted heart attack two years to the date Eddy died.

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im cute
Sep 21, 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKLmZNnMT0A

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