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Holland would take a high draft pick and immediately trade it for another 3rd line grinder. He'd toss more into the deal if the guy was Michigan-born. E: Oh hey the babby schenn thing. I don't mind Philly offloading him for picks since it's not like they're in win-now mode anyway. Yeah Lehtera isn't great but Schenn was goddamn awful at 5v5 and from what I can tell, Lehtera is at least a touch better there. He's drat sure not replacing Schenn on the power play, that's for sure (I'm guessing one of the younger guys will be headed to his spot), but even if the power play takes a hit overall it's not as if we're aiming to be a contender this year anyway. DJExile fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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Duckman2008 posted:I've never been a fan of either Schenn, and Braydon i felt was always super overrated. Nah they could make a WC spot, even with the current blue line and goaltending, but I get the feeling this year is largely to see who makes the team out of camp/preseason. Hextall's still in the long game but I get the feeling now is the time they're going to start moving up more of the prospects from juniors or the Phantoms and finally let them get some experience. Jamwad Hilder posted:Oh yeah I missed all the talk about that. What the hell was the point of trading Brayden Schenn? He's 25 and reliably scores 20+ a season. Over the last four seasons he's top 50 in total goals scored. I mean I get that he does a lot of it on the PP but so what? Goals are goals. It just didn't make any sense to me but I see people saying it's a win for Philly. In terms of player-for-player yeah it's not a great look but he's horrendous at 5v5 and doesn't drive play. I think Hextall wanted the picks more than anything. E: Charlie O'Connor has a good breakdown of it quote:And this is where the Flyers’ current situation comes into play. The heart of this deal is an assumption from Hextall that the short term downgrade from Schenn to Lehtera is outweighed by the long-term value of two additional first round picks. If the Flyers were in the hunt for a Stanley Cup title, this wouldn’t be a smart move to make, as maximizing on-ice value in the here and now wins out in those situations. But no one is realistically expecting a team that missed the playoffs last season and will be breaking in between three and six rookies to be a title contender in 2017-18. DJExile fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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The flyers aren't in win-now mode though (the blues may as well be), so near-term goal scoring doesn't do a lot for them anyway when they're still calling up more rookies and working out the rebuild. Brayden Schenn's a good player but I don't think he's quite been a "core" guy or however it's phrased these days. Also apparently Steve Mason is still a possibility to come back because that whole hilarious saga refuses to die.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:You know Hakstol is gonna give Lehtera 20 mins a game over the actual good young players Y'know on one hand, yeah I get why you'd say that, but on the other it seems like a lot of Hak's favorite players have been shipped off (or taken), and the hiring of Knoblauch was likely a shot across his bow. At this point Hak doesn't seem like he's been given a lot of choice.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:That's a fair point. If they're not in a win-now mode it makes sense to maximize the return and trade him now since he's not likely to get any better, or cheaper, by the time younger guys are ready. And you're right that Schenn doesn't strike me as the type of expensive veteran type you'd want to still have around 3-4 years from now compared to Giroux/Voracek/Wayne. I guess I was mostly just surprised he was moved at all since it kind of came out of nowhere Oh yeah it was totally out of the blue, no question of that. There was no talk of Brayden being shopped around or anything. I think Hextall just jumped at the chance to get 2 first rounders. Ginette Reno posted:Hakstol has that same panicked look permanently affixed to his face that I remember Mike Johnston having. I can't believe the Flyers haven't fired him yet. He's likely on a really short leash this year, and now most of his favorite players are gone, and now there's a new assistant that by all rights is going to be a head coach sooner than later. I get the feeling Hak survives the season unless it's an absolute disaster. I mean yeah he's made plenty of weird decisions lately but it's not as if the last couple seasons have mattered much anyway in the big picture. Hextall's been more than patient with him but I'd have to imagine at this point there has to be some progress shown for the season.
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Yeah Selanne, Recchi and Kariya should all be in pretty easily.
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Jordan7hm posted:Nolan Yonkman was the best defenseman to ever wear a Habs uni. I base this largely on his sweet name. I'd like to use this same reasoning to put Radek Bonk and Zarley Zalapski in the HoF.
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Mike_V posted:The Flyers better not put Lehtera on a line with any speed because he drags everyone else down. He's a good defensive center, but his conditioning is among the worst in the league and it becomes incredibly obvious a month into the season. Look at his numbers last year and realize he spent most of it playing with Schwartz and Tarasenko. He's still (surprisingly) a better even strength play-driver than Schenn though, and for the time being I don't think they're looking to get much from him anyway. Worse comes to worst he's buried on a 4th line or scratched and the priority was the picks anyway.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Lehtonen's largely considered the better of the 2, right? I mean, maybe? But at this point they're both completely awful and they just had to get at least one of those shitbox contracts out of there.
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loving  jacobs
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i am the bird posted:Detroit's stupid if they don't think about Yak. Their top 6 is abysmal and their cupboard is bare. They went well past "if" years ago
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Flyera made qualifying offers to Cole Bardreau, Scott Laughton, Taylor Leier, Alex Lyon, Roman Lyubimov, Anthony Stolarz and Mike Vecchione.
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iospace posted:How many offer sheets? well they were qualifying offers,and likely came on a sheet of paper... soooo... 
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hahahaha i missed that yak gif
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Technetium posted:Bring Yak to Toronto and have him play with the young fast guys in Babs' all fast all offense system and see what happens. Worse comes to worse Josh Leivo outplays him and we waive him. Best case is he finds chemistry with one of the rookies and lights it the gently caress up. a false posted:that... kinda seems like a good idea it really does, that could be fun to watch
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https://twitter.com/renlavoietva/status/879730849922641920
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:That second year has got to be frightening to anyone thinking to sign him (unless he's some sort of fitness freak) to my knowledge he's stayed pretty healthy the last 5-6 years, for what that's worth
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Zodijackylite posted:hope it works out better than it did with Boogaard. i mean....
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Where has Burke been lately anyway? Is he still in Arizona's front office?
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Aphrodite posted:I've been making chemical weapons in Syria. You're Caro? 
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https://twitter.com/CraigCustance/status/879810567770451968 lmao do it holland
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Iodised QQ posted:The rumored offer that was out there from the isles was Hamonic, their 2018 1st, and a prospect who isn't Matt barzal/Ryan pulock/josh ho sang. So probably a guy like Michael dal colle or Kiefer bellows. Apparently that wasn't good enough for duchene either. lmao jesus christ Sakic what are you doing
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mennoknight posted:Spencer Foo is gonna loving contribute to my boner patrol mods new thread title pls
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god drat and i thought paul holmgren was a mess during free agency he doesn't have poo poo on ken holland
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Look Around You posted:I think dicking around players like that has a net negative effect on your organization though, since it makes free agents much less likely to sign. With the state the Avs are in, they don't need to be alienating the entire player base by loving someone over and keeping them in a hopeless situation after requesting a trade and getting multiple offers that would almost certainly help your team out more than keeping him would (especially given the secondary effects on the perception of the franchise). The avs could not be any worse of a team if they tried, though, and I think it's become pretty clear in the last few years that the way to really build a team is through drafts and prospects, while using free agency to help out here and there, instead of the other way around. They were at or near dead last in pretty much every category you can name. Free agency isn't going to help them nearly as much as finally getting a GM who knows what he's doing and restocking on picks and prospects.
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Look Around You posted:Right, but then you could do both by leveraging that player that wants out into assets that help you rebuild through draft picks and prospects, could you not? Oh no question, but they're basically in a "beggars can't be choosers" situation at this point. 4 picks and a prospect for a guy who wants out in the worst way is a pretty good way to get started on your rebuild.
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Aaah, I didn't know they'd actually been in that process
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oh my god I completely forgot they traded for a 37 year old danny briere
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CBJSprague24 posted:Gonna get PAID at $8M per year for 106 years, even if it's AAV... 
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Levitate posted:so the new arena is already cursed good
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holy loving lol https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/880089333423800320
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drat that's is a really solid deal for McDavid
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Ginette Reno posted:If it weren't for Mcdavid I'm pretty sure the Oilers would be a bottom 10 team. That roster is rear end. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them miss the playoffs. It's kinda hard to tell though because so much of the rest of the west is even worse
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glynnenstein posted:Dynamo Moscow HC has... problems quote:Last month, society head Vladimir Strzhalkovsky told Russian media the club racked up debts of around 2 billion rubles ($35 million). jesus
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Shawn Cotureier posted:Hey FAS, Panotch is out at CSN. Is Carchidi the only hot take beat writer fuckboi left, or am I missing someone? oh thank gently caress yeah i think that only leaves Carchidi
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lmao sens
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https://twitter.com/BroadStBull/status/880516751120900097 Godspeed, Mase. You deserved better than last year.
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