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Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Things I want to happen this off-season:
1) McDavid and Draisaitl get signed to under $20 mil combined
2) Peter Chiarelli and Kris Russell get shot into the sun
3) The Flames relocate and leave Calgary with no NHL team

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Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Mage_Boy posted:

I want someone to offersheet McDavid a maximum salary contract for the hilarity.

Too bad he can't even be offer sheeted this offseason, since he's still on his ELC.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

zegermans posted:

so why'd the Knights grab Fleury instead of Mrazek

The fact Vegas and Pittsburgh agreed to a deal March 1 where the Knights would pick Fleury and get a 2020 2nd in return. I doubt McPhee wanted to break a deal he had in place for over 3 months.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Detroit Red Wing Martin Hanzal has a nice ring to it.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Breaking up Hall of Fame chat for a second:
https://twitter.com/MikeHeika/status/879367857221578753

:rip:

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Lehtonen's largely considered the better of the 2, right?

Yes. From this latest season:
Kari Lehtonen: 59 GP, 22-25-7, 2.85 GAA, 0.902 Sv%
Antti Niemi: 37 GP, 12-12-4, 3.30 GAA, 0.892 Sv%

Although in the end it really doesn't matter, I'm sure both of them will be gone from the Stars after next season.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Everybody knows Dan Girardi is going to Detroit, all other fanbases can settle down.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/879397804661256197

Happy for Kassian, he deserves it. :unsmith:

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/879414766158139393

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013


With Yakupov, he has the skills to be at least a top 6 RW, even a 1st line RW. The problem is that he does not have the hockey IQ necessary to think the game as a top 6 RW and use his skills efficiently, which has really limited his ability as a player. But if you pair him with a center (or linemates) that can make use of his skills like McDavid then he's actually fine.

Looking at his season with St. Louis, he only had 9 points in 40 games but his problem there was that Hitchcock then Yeo didn't make use of him. 4th line minutes, limited PP usage, healthy scratch multiple times during the season. His lack of production there shouldn't be surprising. So the fact that somebody suggested he play for the Pens 4th line just makes me laugh, because I could already see PAS complaining about him not producing despite the fact he wouldn't be put in a position to succeed in that scenario.

I do think he'll be a good cheap pick-up for some team, a "reclamation" type player. The only question is whether or not the team he signs with will actually use him efficiently. Say something like sheltered middle 6 minutes and on one of the PP units. I hope they do since I still like Yakupov and want him to succeed.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/879496549402914816

Gotta stockpile those 2020 2nds.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

A Typical Goon posted:

This type of attitude leads to RNH third line grinder and Yakupov king of the busts

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, 2011-12: 62 GP, 18-34-52, got a shoulder injury, robbed of the Calder
Nail Yakupov, 2012-13: 48 GP, 17-14-31, 5th in Calder voting

You could at least look at their first year stats, which are both respectable for rookies, before going "nah look at these 1st overall picks they both suck!!!".

Both Hischier and Patrick will be fine. There's no need for either of them to be in junior any longer.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/879768177395290114

Chiarelli, after the Oilers get eliminated: Our defense isn't good enough to make it to the conference finals
Also Chiarelli: *doesn't improve the defense that he said wasn't good enough*

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/TSNRyanRishaug/status/879803476737314816
https://twitter.com/NHLnumbers/status/879809065362141185

That honestly seems reasonable to me when it is put like that.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013


Well, if he makes the Flames roster, poor kid's gonna get booed hard during the Oilers-Flames season opener.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/TSNRyanRishaug/status/879835652644192256

So Chiarelli's only move thus far has been trading Eberle for Strome, which is a downgrade in RW. Otherwise he's going to go into the season with almost the exact same roster as last year and approximately $9 mil in cap space after Draisaitl signs his new contract. Sekera is still hurt, there's no replacement for him other than going "okay just let Nurse/Benning play on the 2nd pair and hope for the best". The Oilers lack of scoring depth still hasn't been addressed, in fact it's been hurt by trading Eberle for a lesser player. And rather than using any cap space they're just going to let it go to waste, even though this is the last year of McDavid's ELC and they could easily fit in a couple of pieces on one year deals. Not to mention that last year was a case of everything that could have gone right did (right up until the Ducks series), and you're literally banking on that happening yet again.

This is going to end in one of two ways. The Oilers stay healthy, McDavid has the greatest season ever and they win the Stanley Cup, or they miss the playoffs. No matter what happens, fire Chiarelli.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

bewbies posted:

Rumors that McDavid extension is 8/106? That's...actually pretty reasonable.

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/880055907513757696

Including the final year of his ELC, 9 more years of McDavid guaranteed at a cap hit % similar to Crosby's when he came out of his ELC, but with more term. I'm fine with that. :toot:

Now don't forget about Drai.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/880124215646724098

Looks like Brendan Smith is getting the Kris Russell Special.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

corn on the cop posted:

4 years, $4.35 AAV on Smith.

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/880125366819540992

A bit more than the Kris Russell Special!

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

For reference, here's LeBrun saying that only players traded before the expansion draft can't be traded back to their original team until January 1:
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/879349501353439232
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/879349670295764992
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/879349814726725633

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/880160418999808001

This sounds like a bad idea.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013


https://twitter.com/JSportsnet/status/880424311823224832

Yikes. :smith:

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/880456560849416193

Well this is highly unexpected.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Another buyout:
https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/880478830951092225

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Ya it really doesn't make sense unless they're about to pay someone 5 million a year.

Maybe Marleau or Thornton? I'm really confused.

Nope, seems like their plan is to do nothing with the added cap space right now.
https://twitter.com/Bob_Stauffer/status/880464806649581568

Which makes this buyout more dumb.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

hifi posted:

yeah but the ducks with 5MM in current cap space have 25MM in deadline cap space. short of being the hawks you are going to be able to add whatever you want at the deadline, capwise.

not sure why they didn't buy out fayne, 1 year left on his deal meant a shorter buyout term with only 300k? difference and pouliot had fairly consistent 30 point seasons before this year

Because buying out Fayne when we have the cap space this upcoming season and likely won't have cap space the season after is absolutely stupid, seeing as how that'd be even more dead cap going into 2018-19.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/880497167194087425

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Levitate posted:

Benny-Poo is pretty dang good I don't know why the Oilers poo poo themselves over him, I guess they just see him as the most expendable forward when they're trying to get cap space

He was bad this season, but rather than keeping him to see if he bounced back (which I'd bet on) and trading him if he did, or at worst buying him out, just like with anybody that has a down year with the Oilers they went "OH poo poo HE'S USELESS NOW BETTER GET RID OF HIM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!"

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Friedman wrote something involving the UFAs, and:

quote:

Two that seem close — if not done — are Trevor Daley (Detroit) and Dan Girardi (Tampa Bay).

Girardi is headed to Tampa? Not Detroit? What is this?

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/NicholsOnHockey/status/880551469182615552

Price is gonna get paid.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/68Jagr/status/880553421736161283
https://twitter.com/68Jagr/status/880561778068930560

Somebody sign Jagr.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

whatis posted:

Murray deserves some blame for never putting together a solid defense, but the Pysyk/Kulikov trade only became an issue because of an unfortunate injury to Kulikov. Pysyk isn't exactly good



Seems pretty drat good to me. :shrug:

I'd gladly take Pysyk on the Oilers if he were available.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/880580105126514693

Calgary's got their back-up.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/880606690072244225

I'm sure this'll make FAS happy.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

ThinkTank posted:

I am really impressed by Jim Benning's complete inability to lure Vancouver born players to the Canucks even with the ability to offer more money and ice time than anyone else. He is a supremely horrible general manager.

Hey, Jim Benning hasn't even done anything bad lately! You can't impose the label "supremely horrible general manager" on him when there's a lot of other qualified GMs out there that fit that label!

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

JawKnee posted:

huh. Wonder why the Devils are buying out Cammaleri

https://twitter.com/renlavoietva/status/880822127796080640

Guess they couldn't find someone to trade him to and just went "gently caress it".

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/TSNRyanRishaug/status/880828999278120960

6-7 teams, huh.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/880837336501813248

I hope the return for Duchene is hilariously bad.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/TSNRyanRishaug/status/880868002442477569

Not surprising. Pitlick's good, but he just can't avoid getting injured. He'd be a really good pick-up for a team if he somehow managed to stay healthy for an entire season.

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Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/880872347716202500

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