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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

facebook jihad posted:

Your informed posts show how little I keep up with it today. If they are doing a good job with him that's awesome. Hopefully he owns the poo poo out of Roman Reigns

Nah, he wrestled like maybe 5 matches. Beat Brock in a minute at Survivor Series, appeared in the Rumble and eliminated Brock, beat Owens for the title at the February show, and then lost to Brock in a pretty good match at Wrestlemania that was like 11 moves in 6 minutes, bit goddamn it worked well.

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BodyMassageMachine
Nov 24, 2006

:yeah:
:yeah:
:yeah:

quote:

I was trying to go to sleep a few minutes ago and for some reason the enormity of these events finally hit me and I couldn't stop crying. I have no real life friends who give a poo poo about professional wrestling, so this is basically the only place I have to express these feelings, but I really feel the need to express them.

I would like this thread to be about our personal feelings about the death of Chris Benoit, and how it has personally affected us. Just TV-IVing about the details as they come in, or wondering about the WWE's future, and all of that bullshit has no place here. I need to write about my feelings about Chris Benoit. Obviously these posts will be mocked elsewhere on the forums, but gently caress em. If you feel the need to say anything, say it.

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Chris Benoit is a murderer. He killed his wife and child. We will probably never know exactly what he was thinking. Obviously I did not know Chris Benoit. I never saw him in person and never spoke to him. But he represented something very special to me. In such a cut-throat, dirty, dark, often disgusting, business he was one of the good ones. When people talked poo poo about wrestling and the bastards involved in it, you could always muffin out Chris Benoit as the exception to the rule. He was the one you could muffin to as a true professional who honored the sport he loved, who was passionate about it, who proved that you could dedicate your life to professional wrestling without being insane or scum or a monster. He was the ace in the hole. He was the one who wasn't in it for the pussy or because he was a failed jock in another sport or because he wanted to get rich quick or because he wanted to be a movie star or because he saw wrestling as a means to an end. He was in it for professional wrestling. He was dedicated to being the best professional wrestler he could be, and it showed in the ring.

I wanted to be a professional wrestler since I was a little kid, and one of the very worst moments of my life was a cold night in San Antonio when I was on the phone to my girlfriend a thousand miles away and finally admitted to myself and to her that coming to Texas to be a wrestler had been a mistake. Coming to grips that I was simply not athletically or charismatically talented enough to be a professional wrestler was one of the worst moments of my life. The business glorifies the boyhood dreams that come true. My boyhood dream wasn't going to come true, and it was an upsetting, soul-crushing revelation that upsets and discourages me to this day.

Since then I lived vicariously through Chris Benoit in a lot of ways. He wasn't a man who was destined to be a WWE champion. He couldn't talk. He wasn't charismatic in the usual way. He was quiet. He was short. The only thing he had going for him was his work ethic. He wasn't a third generation wrestler. He wasn't physically gifted. He wasn't someone who had words come easy to him. But through sheer effort he was able to become one of the greatest professional wrestlers in history. By 40 years-old.

Chris Benoit was only forty, and he was already a legend on the verge of myth. That's how talented he was, and how respected.

I cannot reconcile in my mind that the man who unnecessarily gave back so much to the sport could end his life the way he did. I can't understand how a man could spend weeks and months trying to give back to younger guys like MVP, putting forth the care and effort to help them find their voice in the ring, and that that same man could strangle his wife and child only weeks later. It doesn't make sense. It shouldn't have happened this way. Not for him, not for Nancy, and not for their child.

Chris Benoit owed me nothing. But I still feel the loss. I selfishly lived through many of his accomplishments and now feel lost. I can only speak for myself, but I feel that for a lot of us Mondays and Fridays are rocks of stability in a storm of stress and uncertainty. Every week the show goes on. Every week the show is from somewhere new, somewhere in the world, but every week it comes into our homes.


And that will continue. But Chris Benoit is dead. And he died a murderer. And whether it be insanity, drugs, or just the actions of a clear-eyed monster, what is done is done. And one of the pillars for the guys backstage and one of the pillars for fans is gone. And everything that pillar held up is tainted and dripping with blood.

Chris Benoit was a murderer. And I don't know how to accept that.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax
I really can't wait for Vince McMahon to die because I don't give a poo poo about the actual wrasslin' but the business side of WWE is goddam fascinating but we're not going to be able to get the real dirt until he's dead. The fact that despite being such a huge business with such strict exclusivity/non-compete clauses he makes all the wrestlers declare themselves independent contractors that don't get health insurance, have to file their own taxes in every state, and even provide their own transportation is so amazingly petty and is also a big part of why so many wrestlers die young and/or go crazy. Like, even a corrupt meat grinder like the NFL at least gives you a pension.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Guy Mann posted:

I really can't wait for Vince McMahon to die because I don't give a poo poo about the actual wrasslin' but the business side of WWE is goddam fascinating but we're not going to be able to get the real dirt until he's dead. The fact that despite being such a huge business with such strict exclusivity/non-compete clauses he makes all the wrestlers declare themselves independent contractors that don't get health insurance, have to file their own taxes in every state, and even provide their own transportation is so amazingly petty and is also a big part of why so many wrestlers die young and/or go crazy. Like, even a corrupt meat grinder like the NFL at least gives you a pension.

Vince is really reluctant to do anything for talent relations unless he's forced to react to it

Nocompete clauses were because of the WCW poaching.

Drug testing was because of Guerrero and Benoit.

No pension? There's no union.

No union? It turns out that tying pay to reward people who draw the most fans to the show spawned an industry of paranoid fuckers that would kill unionization attempt because it would hurt them.

Independent contractors? No one had managed to get a lawsuit in front of the courts to force the matter.

Do it ironically
Jul 13, 2010

by Pragmatica
lmao if you think that the wwe will do anything but tank into non existence once vince dies, vince is a legit carny, and he knows how to put on a show, haitch is a wrestler he knows poo poo about making entertainment

gently caress i miss vince coming out every week guy could work a room lmao

im cute
Sep 21, 2009

Schweinhund posted:

Just a little life advice. If you're not a little kid and still follow wrestling, you should keep that a secret, or anyone who finds out will instantly lose all respect for you. Here's a trick you can use: If you're watching wrestling on TV and someone walks in on you, you can say "Oh I was just admiring the muscular bodies of those sweaty near naked men" then change the channel and make a comment about how dumb wrestling is. Anyone else have any tips?

When my parents walk in I just fast forward to the women's matches and pretend like I was cranking off

Bob James
Nov 15, 2005

by Lowtax
Ultra Carp
It's still real to me dammit.

http://i.imgur.com/jAc4URT.gifv

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!

This owns pretty hard, nevermind that it's wrestling.

Manchild King
Oct 22, 2010
Misogynistic, self-absorbed, incredibly unfunny asshole. BLOCK ME or I will steal your face for creepy fetish porn!

That Robot posted:

hey op, protip:

women's wrestling is cool
Yeah, I don't mind a bit of Ultimate Surrender ever so often.

WWE is glorified carny stuff.

Kuato
Feb 25, 2005

"I CAN'T BELIEVE I ATE THE WHOLE THING"
Buglord

Paradol Ex? If not, wonder whatever happened to him.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕
Wrestling is real. Real good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAaDyWHRCeU

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

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Wrestlers can fly

Do it ironically
Jul 13, 2010

by Pragmatica
one of my favourite wrasslin spots is where DDT wrestling had the ref do an in match flashback about the good times he had with the one wrestler then coudlnt do the three count :3 some promotions like them are awesome

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

:derp:   :kayak:                                     
Here's another tip. If you ever want to discuss wrestling online, go on craigslist and buy a cheap used laptop. Encrypt the system drive. Then sign up for a VPN using bitcoin and log onto it. Then install Tor Browser and sign onto your favorite wrestling forum using a fake name and post whatever you want. When you're finished, drop the laptop into a vat of industrial grade hydrochloric acid. Now no one can trace your posts about wrestling back to you and you can go back to your regular life without fear.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

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Ric Flair's daughter wrestles now. She's kind of hot until you start to see her dad's face on her body...

facebook jihad
Dec 18, 2007

by R. Guyovich
Ric Flair owns

Xtra Innings Lovin
Nov 11, 2016

The best wrestlemania was X8. Stacked card, everyone wasn't over the hill. After that everyone got too old and now it's all no name losers and not worth watching.

BIG PUFFY NIPS
Mar 7, 2007

College Slice

Xtra Innings Lovin posted:

The best wrestlemania was X8. Stacked card, everyone wasn't over the hill. After that everyone got too old and now it's all no name losers and not worth watching.

thats a weird way to spell x-seven

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

facebook jihad posted:

Ric Flair owns

Saw him years ago at a wrestling tournament his boy was at. Wasn't in the same weight class, but he destroyed. Nice people, great stage presence.

Lol if you hate manly soap opera. WRESTLING FOREVER IN ALL FORMS, STEP UP LESSER BEINGS.

Bogus Adventure
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facebook jihad posted:

Ric Flair owns

He's amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qvjTr3UhyY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBlCSnpDTlY

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer
Charlotte Flair also does this which is pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUIvUuFROpo

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

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Aesop Poprock posted:

Charlotte Flair also does this which is pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUIvUuFROpo

This is the video right after it. Hot drat!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBcUDEid-uQ

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

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Let me say it, yeah, let me say it out loud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhSYpczLVzY

YOU KNOW THAT I AM THE CREAM OF THE CROP!

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

I used to think hulk hogan was cool.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

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satanic splash-back posted:

I used to think hulk hogan was cool.

You either die a hero...



...or live long enough to see yourself become a villain...

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

The rabid wolverine was loving cool. He also did a murder you're famil

He wrestling good in Valhalla probably because he was a warrior

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

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I refuse to let this thread die with the Rabid Wolverine as the final chapter. We should be talking about the man who's better than the best, OH YEAH! I get the feeling Randy Savage was on acid for every one of his promos, but he still fuckin' rules.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OWqcqaNCIc

"It happened so fast, ya can't even talk about it!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOPBw41LR8s

"I think I'm more SPUNKY THAN I USED TO BE! A lotta people say do somethin', even if it's wrong, or even if it's right, but stay spunky! Yeah! Uh-huh!"

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Bogus Adventure posted:

I refuse to let this thread die with the Rabid Wolverine as the final chapter. We should be talking about the man who's better than the best, OH YEAH! I get the feeling Randy Savage was on acid for every one of his promos, but he still fuckin' rules.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OWqcqaNCIc

"It happened so fast, ya can't even talk about it!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOPBw41LR8s

"I think I'm more SPUNKY THAN I USED TO BE! A lotta people say do somethin', even if it's wrong, or even if it's right, but stay spunky! Yeah! Uh-huh!"

He really is the best. I can't believe you didn't throw this in though:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB2bJOFIdJQ

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Bogus Adventure posted:

Ric Flair's daughter wrestles now.

Only registered members can see post attachments!

Regrettable
Jan 5, 2010



Bogus Adventure posted:

Randy Savage was on cocaine for every one of his promos


FTFY

GORILLA BASTARD
Jun 20, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Which was the one that murdered his entire family then ate a bullet afterwards?

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

GORILLA BASTARD posted:

Which was the one that murdered his entire family then ate a bullet afterwards?

Benoit killed his wife and youngest son (his ex had custody of the other ones) but he constructed an elaborate suicide device out of a weight machine and killed himself

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

GORILLA BASTARD posted:

Which was the one that murdered his entire family then ate a bullet afterwards?

Chris Benoit, but he hung himself from a bowflex rather than shooting himself.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost
basically he took the bar off the weight machine fashioned the cord into a noose, put it around himself, used a towel to it some cushion, squatted, pulled out the towel and hung himself



he was uh, quite determined to kill himself

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Naturally someone like Hulk Hogan had a 1-900 number back in the day. This is some flagrant false advertising though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1hWqfVHaN4

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost
There's a podcast that Chris Jericho did with Nancy Benoit's sister discussing the matter. She was the family nanny and one of the first people who discovered what happened. It's one of the few times she's ever spoken publicly about the entire tragedy. It's utterly heartbreaking

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

On the other hand his Bowflex Rube Goldberg Machine of death is pretty amazing for someone with the brain of a three year old.

Thots and Prayers
Jul 13, 2006

A is the for the atrocious abominated acts that YOu committed. A is also for ass-i-nine, eight, seven, and six.

B, b, b - b is for your belligerent, bitchy, bottomless state of affairs, but why?

C is for the cantankerous condition of our character, you have no cut-out.
Grimey Drawer
An honorable death for a swoldier, would that I go the same way.

some bust on that guy
Jan 21, 2006

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

Bogus Adventure posted:

Let me say it, yeah, let me say it out loud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhSYpczLVzY

YOU KNOW THAT I AM THE CREAM OF THE CROP!

Dude better calm down. He sounds like he's gonna give himself a heart attack.

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PathAsc posted:

He really is the best. I can't believe you didn't throw this in though:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB2bJOFIdJQ

Thank you for linking this. You are better than the best.





lol she would be cute, but every time I look at her face I see this:

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