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YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
Un pays normal.

e:https://twitter.com/Projet_Arcadie/status/1093178056607440896

These loving people.

YaketySass fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Feb 6, 2019

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YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

Chikimiki posted:

I'm sure none of these laws will backfire when France elects Le Pen or some other nutjob in 2022 :v:

"Look at all these means of repression we've expanded when we were in charge, the people really can't afford to elect Le Pen now." :master: :agesilaus:

YaketySass fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Feb 23, 2019

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
La pensée piège à cons.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
https://twitter.com/JFaerber/status/1108793981704519682

Ni de gauche, ni de gauche.

Also lol Freudian theory is obsolete bullshit as medical practice but if it has a place anywhere, it's in philosophy classes, the subconscious is one of the most important ideas of modern times.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

Llyd posted:

The results of the Vrai Débat are in, analyzed by the Toulouse scientists again.
Turns out that for a bunch a violent rioters coming to eat your children, they make some pretty reasonable points (maybe even too reasonable, pas de 6ème), and are more politicized than what our glorious leader thinks.

https://www.arretsurimages.net/articles/exclusif-gilets-jaunes-les-resultats-du-vrai-debat


Some trolls apparently also tried to push propositions to reestablish the death penalty and those got shut down hard.
And... Frexit is also still in there.

Report is here:
https://www.scribd.com/document/403338803/Rapport-Vrai-Debat-Lerass-27-Mars-2019

SMH at all these puppets of far left lawyers.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
And if they get too organized that's proof that they're astroturfed by other political actors, and thus it's not the real People but just rivals wanting to make him look bad. Pile je gagne, face tu perds.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
Ah, the good old days of a left wing government with *check notes* Valls and Macron.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

ElNarez posted:

hey are there spanish speakers here? I get that "Manuel Valls" means "Manuel Valls", "Barcelona" is probably "Barcelone", but for the life of me I can't figure out what "humiliació" means

https://twitter.com/laclaunoticies/status/1113449224992063488

La Clau posted:

Manuel Valls au bord de l’humiliation à Barcelone
Le candidat aux municipales croyait qu’être français était un bénéfice
Mercredi 3 avril 2019. 14:58h

Candidat aux élections municipales de Barcelone, Manuel Valls, figure en queue d’un dernier sondage d’opinion. Crédité de 7 conseillers municipaux en février, descendu à 6 début mars, il se situerait désormais en-dessous de 5.

L’ancien Premier ministre, Manuel Valls, parti à la conquête de la mairie de Barcelone, s’oriente vers une forte déconvenue. Avant-dernier en intentions de vote selon un sondage paru le 31 mars, le candidat qui voyait un avantage hors-concours dans son appartenance française y découvre un profond handicap. Tête de liste de l’offre politique « Barcelone, Capitale Européenne », il obtiendrait moins de 5 conseillers municipaux lors du scrutin du 26 mai. Cette étude du Centre d’Etudes Sociologiques pour le compte du site Metrópoli Abierta approche le fils de peintre de l’humiliation publique. La Gauche Républicaine de Catalogne (ERC), indépendantiste est en tête avec 11 sièges, suivie de Catalunya en Comú, le parti de la maire actuelle, Ada Colau, d’obédience libertaire, crédité de 9 conseillers. Suivraient les 7 sièges du Parti des Socialistes de Catalogne et les 6 de la coalition indépendantiste centriste Junts per Catalunya. Les Candidatures d’Unité Populaire (CUP), marxistes-indépendantistes, disposeraient de 3 sièges et le très droitier Partido Popular resterait dehors.

Vers la victoire de l'indépendantiste Ernest Maragall


En novembre 2018, les sondages attribuaient 7 conseillers municipaux à Manuel Valls, puis 6 en février et 5 début mars. Sa décrue fait réagir l’intéressé sur Twitter. « Il y en a assez des Fakes News et des mauvaises combines ! Les souhaits ne sont pas des sondages. (…) Nous vous demandons de l’honnêteté et de la sérénité », répond celui qui a cru bon d’enfourcher le cheval de «Ciudadanos», la droite moderne qui refuse de condamner le franquisme, souhaite recentraliser et vise les suffrages des Catalans issus du reste de l’Espagne. Ces dernières estimations laissent entrevoir l’élection du candidat d’ERC, Ernest Maragall, frère de Pasqual Maragall, maire à l’époque des Jeux Olympiques de 1992 à Barcelone.

lmao :byewhore:

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
Valls will try his chance for every political office in the UE whether he's eligible or not.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
Two events where a temple dedicated to the biggest religion in the country went up in flame, I can see it.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
I say we use the place for a black metal festival before repairs begin and ruin the mood.

Seriously, the pics with the cross standing in the rubbles are terrible but also :black101:.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

Toplowtech posted:

The accidental fascist.

Le Maurassien Malgré Lui

(or Malgré Elle, in this case)

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

Kurtofan posted:

is that pro-macron? cause if so lol

Plantu loving hates protesters and is a massive lib, yes.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

dirty lousy tramp posted:

selling the lottery? W H Y ? ? ? ?

Privatize profits, socialize losses.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

Chikimiki posted:

Lol it seems they really want to keep the LREM vs FN dynamic that got them elected in the first place.

"Left vs Right is passé, now it's all about globalism vs nationalism. :viggo:"

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

Kurtofan posted:

Lol Macron a reçu le titre de meilleur ouvrier de France

Apparently it's awarded automatically for every Prez.

https://twitter.com/mokranekab/status/1128970686616227840

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
lmao what

https://twitter.com/chengela/status/1129145371198926852

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
It sure is great the way the mainstream press becomes a bunch of bleeding heart anarchists all about prison abolition, but only for the time it takes to write timely articles about the powerful having a small chance of going there.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
What the gently caress is even going on at LFI at this point, they're completely losing the plot.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

Don't forget the latest icon:

https://twitter.com/Challenges/status/1102157302273052673

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
Once you hit realpolitik discourse, Françafrique is seen as a powerful asset for France that keeps us from being even more irrelevant than we are on the international stage, pretty much. There's also the usual arguments about helping with development through mutually beneficial partnerships, keeping order, how much of a shitshow Africa is, and how we're doing good there if you think about it, blablabla, and the various military operations against islamists strengthen that particular optic. There's also the simmering anxiety about China taking over the family business, which gets you into discussions over geopolitics and the coming evolution of global capitalism.

Occasionally some corrupt African stateman gets in trouble and the curtain is lifted just a little bit (Sarkozy's still having problems with the judiciary over his relationship with Gaddafi, for example), and the Rwandan genocide in particular occasionally gets retrospectives that shed a little light over just what the gently caress we were doing during that time, but it's all rather difficult to parse. There's a lot of poo poo we'll probably never know.


Squalid posted:

or maybe someone can tell me what the far left says in their own publications? What's the French version of Jacobin Magazine?

Do you read French?

Not sure if there's a one-to-one comparison. Mediapart and Le Canard Enchaîné do good investigative journalism, though only the former is properly leftist. There's also regular left-wing newspapers like L'Humanité, Bastamag or Politis, and if you want long-form essays there's also La Revue Du Crieur which only releases issues thrice a year.

Your best shot on the subject is probably Le Monde Diplomatique*, which focuses on international news and is generally both relatively leftist and well-researched, through it's not as radical as Jacobin. Don't confuse it with Le Monde, though, which is a den of useless libs.

*Would you look at that: They just released an issue on the very topic you're looking for. Doesn't seem to be available in English though.

YaketySass fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Jun 12, 2019

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
*Jules Ferry

Luc is very much alive and very much right-wing.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

punk rebel ecks posted:

I see. What are French comic books like? Are they distinctly different the same way Japanese comics are different from American?

A lot less superhero stuff, the equivalent would probably be a poo poo ton of fantasy/scifi/adventure/thriller comics (which are probably the main popular medium for our own production in these genres, as live-action is hardly up to the task without the appropriate budget). There's also a lot in the way of lowbrow humor comics. "Serious" comics are fairly well-represented, you can pick up documentaries, historical fiction, slice-of-life, or otherwise experimental stuff. Then there's all the production specifically aimed at kids, which I'd say is near comparable in volume to adult stuff.

Lots of classic series like Asterix and the likes are still in production under younger authors, YMMV if they're still worth a look. There's also been several movie adaptations that have mostly been loving abysmal, but that doesn't seem to stop producers from trying.

Manga (and anime) are very popular, though it's more of a generational thing (we had an hilarious moral panic over "dumb violent japanese trash" a few decades ago). American comics seem to be more of a crusty nerd hobby, though if you're in an adult into comics at all you've probably heard of/read things like Saga, a few graphic novels and similar series that can be considered alternative.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

punk rebel ecks posted:

Wow, all this looks awesome. Thanks for the responses.

I'm curious to why comics are still popular in France but not in America?

Censorship wasn't as bad (though still pretty bad) so it maintained a diverse artistic community instead of being massively dominated by one single genre, and live-action media are ludicrously expensive to produce outside of some narrow genres since we don't have anything comparable to Hollywood, whereas comics let you go hogwild with fantastical stories. You also have to take into account readership statistics in general, which have more complex evolutions.

It's not without its problems: there's been some noise from artists over how difficult it is to live from your creations, given the massive work that goes into creating a single album and how little editors are willing to pay you in comparison. But :capitalism:.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
It's like the Onion version of Joe Biden taking over the reality of the man but even more out of hand.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
That sucks. Seems like making up an excuse is the best way to go if she's not in a position to confront them.

100YrsofAttitude posted:

I know France's take on racism is quite different from what I grew up with in New England, USA, but I thought blackface and it's like was frowned upon.

Not as many people consider it offensive but I think mentalities are evolving on the issue. There was an online backlash a couple of days ago when employees from clothing company Le Slip Français got caught with videos of them in blackface (and doing monkey cries to go along with it, because of course). I expect that if these kinds of things get more visibility the usual clowns will grumble about how it's a sign of American campus political correctness corrupting our enlightened universalism or whatever.

"Funny" personal anecdote: back in kindergarten they had us take part in a carnival with a Guadeloupe theme, and part of the costume included shoe polish on the face. Only they hosed up the color so you had hundreds of white kids parading in makeshift costumes, each one with a very vivid red-brown face. The idea of not using the polish apparently did not occur to any of the teachers.

So yeah, I technically did blackface once. Feel free to cancel me.

YaketySass fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Jan 6, 2020

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

Toplowtech posted:

They cynically used the 49.3 knowing the coronavirus crisis would prevent massive protests. There were some protests against the reform during the manifestations for International Women's day, but nothing that big.

Also it seems that even your run-of-the-mill feminist demonstrations aren't immune to the riot police these days, these psychos went charging and beat them up for "stepping out of the approved route" or some bullshit.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MarcheF%C3%A9ministe%20%23violencespolicieres&src=typed_query&f=video

Then again I suppose cops take the idea that domestic violence is bad pretty personally.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
Cool country:

https://twitter.com/raphkempf/status/1243956219796168706

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

Kassad posted:

Don't forget still going forward with this fascist bullshit:

https://twitter.com/DimPolitique/status/1246760681136959489

lmao they're never giving it up

At least they didn't repurpose it into sending the youths to working the fields in our time of great crisis.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
Just a little more pedagogy and these morons the people will love austerity and see its inherent righteousness.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

V. Illych L. posted:

is valls even still alive

didn't he kill himself from the shame of losing that spanish election like he should have

I don't think the guy is capable of shame.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
Ça dure depuis un moment sa déchéance mais il fera difficilement pire que J'ai embrassé un flic.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

100YrsofAttitude posted:

Thank you. Islamogauchisme seems slightly contradictory but I guess it’s just mixing all the flavors they love to hate.

It's "lefties, antiracist militants (or anyone defending muslims in general) are useful idiots for terrorists and sharia law taking over France through a demographic takeover". Common accusations include:
-They teach people to hate France and White French people for its colonial past, and racism in general.
-They divide us over racial lines and promote self-segregation and self-rule of minorities by letting them have their own customs. The word used to be "communautarisme", but the right has upgraded it to "séparatisme", probably because the former stopped sounding scary enough.
-They're pro-censorship and hate us for our freedom when the subject is deemed racist, as with the Charlie Hebdo cartoons (that have become a convenient "you're with us or against us" shibboleth). If you think the cartoons sucked you may as well have been leading the attacks yourself.
-They're too soft on crime and terrorism and won't let the government expand the powers of the police and the surveillance state.

Part of the fun is there's a lot of guilt by association going on, with political parties being accused of cozying up to minor antiracist organizations who themselves are accused of having ties to more radical or more conservative ones, up until you get politicians arguing everyone to their left is best buds with terrorism apologists.

See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism.

YaketySass fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Nov 1, 2020

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YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

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It's also increasingly unseemly to talk of "police violence", because "society is violent" and it's hate speech against cops.

pointsofdata posted:

Everyone I speak to says that "everyone" hates Macron, which makes sense, but opinion polls seem to have him at ~40% approval. Is it just that the bar for political leaders is subterranean?

The left really hates him for being the perfect example of everything they've warned about wrt to centrists, everyone else can occasionally criticize him to remind the electorate they exist, but they don't really have a problem with the authoritarian poo poo in itself except they don't get to do it themselves. The right's more busy pushing to reopen bars anyway.

As far as the polls are concerned he still has a lot of Biden-style soft support and will probably keep it, and the combination of terrorism+covid means there's a lot of closing of ranks around the leader.

YaketySass fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Nov 24, 2020

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