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dirty lousy tramp posted:selling the lottery? W H Y ? ? ? ? Obviously because the government doesn't need any of this tacky "money" stuff to pay for the social safety net the lottery was created to finance in the first place. Also because gently caress you that's why. If you're poor or a working stiff that is. If you're in the upper 5% : because much love, brah.
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dirty lousy tramp posted:the lottery is FREE MONEY, and it can be used in a socially useful way instead of buying a helicopter for a CEO or sitting in a bank account on the cayman islands Well, not really free - it's really a tax on being poor & desperate & bad at statistics. Also on the easily addicted that cigarettes and booze didn't nab - then again why not hit them thrice ? It used to have a kind of a "noblesse oblige" component where rich or middle class folks would buy raffle and lottery tickets by the roll just to put money into the system above and beyond their taxes (and then not collect any of their winnings as the case may be, natch) ; but these days that's really not done any more. So now it's just a system for making money off of working class fools thinking that's how they're going to escape wage slavery. Still, yes, if we're going to have exploitative money raising schemes, I'd much rather have the money raised go towards... well, just about *anything* besides a private oval office's and his equally cunty shareholders' pockets. Selling it off is absolutely indefensible, from any point of view.
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JustJeff88 posted:How else would they? Seriously... how? Invest in guillotine futures. I dunno, man, I really don't.
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Cat Mattress posted:Au total, les partis de droite ont 161 minutes, ceux de gauche en ont 43. Je sais pas, moi j'trouve ca normal que le FN ait plus de temps de parole à lui tout seul que l'ensemble des partis de gauche. Très normal. Extrême norme, on pourrait dire.
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Toplowtech posted:Les "républicains" nous rappellent qu'ils existent toujours au senat. All the more stupid/shocking/pointless that the girls were already forbidden from wearing their veil in schools due to a previous fascist law. So this is really just making GBS threads on Muslims for the sake of being seen making GBS threads on Muslims. Et parce que la laïcité c'est quand tout le monde est catho, je crois ?
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Kassad posted:Yeah, it's also a blanket ban on religious symbols but they just jumped straight to "MUSLIMS MUSLIMS MUSLIMS". Who even needs to pretend anymore, after all? It's the old "non non mais c'est contre TOUTES les religions ! Laïcité is really important (but do forget about the fact that laïcité was about preventing religious teachers and other state officials from proselitizing/discriminating, that's just a minor historical detail)" trick ; except the laws are worded in such a way that crucifixes and Huguenot crosses are OK (because they're small and even if your teacher is a dick about it you can just hide it under your shirt, not that it ever happened) while veils and yarmulkes are right out.
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mila kunis posted:Have there been any efforts into metastizing the Gillette jaunes into a unified political organization with organized activists/leaders/whatever, or throwing their support behind any existing political party? It's difficult to coalesce a sort of general albeit vague "gently caress all o' y'alls bullshit, for real now" into a constructive movement. That's basically what we found out in 1789 btw.
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Kassad posted:As a bonus, the social security deficit is about to explode thanks to Macron's bullshit BTW, @Le Trésor Public, my income is between ten euros a year and five hundred thousand a day. Who's counting zeroes anyway ?
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punk rebel ecks posted:How accurate is this? Didn't watch all of it, rolled my eyes and shut it down when the video's author reiterated that stupid myth about how "the French thought the Maginot Line was impenetrable and would protect them, didn't understand modern mobile warfare or defence in depth, hurr dee durr". The French army knew all about modern, mobile warfare (although, much like the British did early on, they mostly still thought of tanks as infantry support rather than a force of its own - I may be wrong about this, but I don't think we had anything resembling fully mechanized divisions at that point). Which is *precisely* why they built the Line. What the guy's talking about early in the vid is broadly correct : WW1 was p. bad for the French and left France with a severely depleted male population. We're talking 5 to 10% of its young men blown to bits and thus not having children, probably double or triple that mutilated too badly to be employable and thus support a family. It had not recovered by the 30s ; in fact, you can still see the big dent in the age pyramid today. To put it bluntly, it simply didn't have the means to defend itself or secure its entire border ; and it was poor, for various reasons. So, faced with that state of affairs, they decided that rather than expanding the army or making conscription longer (which would have been costly and hampered industry, plus we were all about workers' rights and social progress and similar peacenik commie poo poo at the time), it was a better plan to spend the money on upgrading what little army they did have and build the Line instead : a formidable defence system of interlinked forts that would be difficult and costly to breach quickly, even if severely undermanned and defended by guys who didn't know a grenade from a potato. Meanwhile the mobile, modern army would be deployed up north where the real fight was always expected to happen. The plan was thus : either A) the Germans try and break the line, in which case they would be stalled long enough for a hurried conscription to reinforce it while the army blitzed through the Low Countries and into Germany, the Germans are all pincer'd, the war is won quickly ; or B) the Germans would take one look at the Line, think "Verdammt. Vergessen about this Scheisse." and instead try to attack through Belgium and smack into the *real* army, which would then proceed to use mobile warfare to quickly respond to when and where the Germans attacked, split them up, try and cut off their supply lines and generally win quickly to please please please let it not become Verdun all over again. As it turned out, the Germans chose "D : go through an impassable natural obstacle" instead - namely the Ardennes forest, thought too thick to allow anything more than a trickle of infantry or small tanks through. Which it was - cutting a path through there *did* make German supply lines extremely linear and vulnerable ; France & the Brits just didn't have the time to capitalize on that before their own supply lines & air forces were overrun and overwhelmed. As for the Maginot Line, it performed exactly as designed : some elements of the German army did try to storm the more isolated parts of it and were easily repulsed by vastly inferior numbers.
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Cat Mattress posted:This part basically applies to nearly every English-language video about French stuff. It's kind of astounding how terrible anglos are at groking French history and culture, despite how close France, the UK, and the US have been historically and culturally. Or perhaps it's this closeness that causes people to just go with the clichés and stereotypes they heard since childhood and never reexamined critically? British author Terry Pratchett (PBUH) once quipped that the difference between British and American people was that Brits would go "I don't understand this person, what's wrong with me ?" while Americans go "I don't understand this person, what's wrong with them ?" - but really, I think most people in most countries do the latter and automatically assume that people doing things the observer doesn't fully understand (whether or not the observer is self-aware enough to realize they don't understand) or wouldn't themselves do *must* therefore be stupid, because the observer's way is implicitly correct/the best. EDIT : that being said, in the specific case of the Maginot line, I suppose some tolerance must be granted because the French army and politicos of the 30s did sell it to the general public as basically "Impenetrable Ubermechatrench 2000" - because the general public knew gently caress all about military strategy (although many were WW1 vets, so they did know something about trenches) but needed to approve the spending. Buf gently caress, it's now been 80 years of military historians repeating this nonsense as is... Kobal2 fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Jun 28, 2019 |
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Orange Devil posted:Additionally the French were very aware that the Maginot Line, you know, ended. Hence multiple attempts to sign a treaty with Belgium (and Luxembourg?) to extend the line all the way up to Liege, and possibly then into the Netherlands to link up with the Water Line. Belgium refused the treaties because they feared it'd antagonize the Germans, however, instead trying to stay neutral this time around. Probably becoming very dependent on France was also a tough sell politically at the time. That, and while I'm not a specialist in that area by a long shot I get the feeling that both the French and the Belgians privately thought the other party would throw them under the Panzerbus without a pang of conscience if that proved expedient - so the Belgians didn't want the French to build the line west of Belgium because if they did and poo poo hit the fan the French coulda (woulda) left them to hang while they retreated back home. And conversely when the Germans breached in the Ardennes the French forces in Belgium were slow to respond because the generals wanted to make super duper doubly sure the Belgian & British forces would stick with the alliance and really, honest, for real, no fooling block the German path through Belgium instead of waving a white flag as soon as the last French tank was out of sight. And yeah, the Exode hosed with any timely military response a lot ; as did having to coordinate troop movements and plans between three separate countries (and civilian leadership). Still I mean, even if this is still a hindsight, "for want of a nail" opinion ; I think that the plow through the Ardennes was a hell of a gamble on the Germans' part. Had we managed to bomb their corridor shut for even a couple days, or a week ; had there been fewer administrative snafus etc... the German troops in France would have been stranded in a really poo poo position. They went through fuel and munition supplies at an unprecedented pace and *really* needed their highway back to the Ruhr. In our timeline Hitler won that poker hand, but WW2 could also easily have been the Great German Foolhardiness of 1938-39
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Its also horseshit that the french are cowards etc like they held longer against the nazi war machine than any other european entity. Yet americans still say it all the loving time Yeah that one has always been amusing to me - because France has been the aggressive warmongering rear end in a top hat of Europe for pretty much its entire history. I can't think of a single European country or city-state we haven't declared war on, invaded or at least marched troops through without asking permission first at some point. Maybe Finland ? I mean we even committed grand theft papacy at one point !
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Kassad posted:https://twitter.com/NassiraELM/status/1146082856466358272 It's really weird when Germany is head and shoulders above you in the decency and morality department. Maybe we could do with a bit of Vergangenheitsbewältigung ourselves at some point.
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escape mechanism posted:At least in Belgium, there's usually an American comics shelf in bookstores that's dominated by Star Wars tie ins or the Walking Dead, with almost no superhero stuff. I don't imagine that it's very different in France, despite the surge in visibility the Marvel movies gave to the genre. The big BD stores (like the FNAC or Boulinier) typically have one wall shelf dedicated to imported US stuff en anglais dans le texte, and one or two for translated American stuff. Compare and contrast with the 6 or 8 manga shelves, or the "normal" BD shelves extending as far as the eye can see. There are also dedicated manga boutiques, but I don't know any comics store (though this being Paris, there probably is at least one somewhere)
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A force de sabrer les budgets de l'école et des facs, personne n'apprend plus à bien fermer sa gueule avant de l'ouvrir. Après, j'admets que se gaver aux frais du contribuable pendant qu'une famille sur dix crève la faim, on fait difficilement moins bolcho.
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Mithaldu posted:Do any of y'all maybe care to comment on this or add background? Googling hasn't exactly lead to easily readable articles. Deliveroo changed its wage policies overnight and without warning, paying long distance deliveries more but short distance less. This pissed off the
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Mithaldu posted:That's an excellent summary, thanks. Does it look like this is hurting Deliveroo or too early to tell? Dunno, the articles I found had spokesmen for Deliveroo saying "nah it's just a few guys doing it, we ain't even care or notice" while spokesmen for the strikers swear a majority of delivery people are with them but I'm not sure how they can tell, since the whole "beauty" of Deliveroo's scheme is that they don't really have employee rosters per se, just "anybody with a warm body, an app, and desperate enough to sign up for voluntary slavery". Pretty difficult to organize workers when you have no idea who the other workers are... That being said, I'm on zero social networks and I don't personally know any Deliveroo workers, so I really can't be more specific. Sorry.
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Ouais, depuis quand les flics ils tapent ?! C'est un scandale ! #justicepourSteve ! Hein, quoi ? Le salon milipol depuis 1984, Malik Oussekine,mai 68, les joyeux Voltigeurs de De Gaulle (deux flics sur une moto, un qui conduit vite, un qui tient le baton bien à hauteur de crâne), les grenades en tir tendu dans la gueule des étudiants depuis toujours (mais bon c'est des gauchos, ca compte pas), les violences quasi-quotidiennes dans les banlieues depuis... depuis qu'il y a des banlieues, en gros ? Oui non mais quand même, sous Macron c'est quand même immonde ! Ils tapent sur des vrais gens maintenant, tu l'crois ça !?
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Mithaldu posted:aaah yes, it was bad in the past so everyone should have it bad for all future and also it builds character if things are bad. you are very smart That's not what I'm saying. I think it's a good thing that more and more people are finally realizing that cops given leeway to be indiscriminately violent militarized openly racist assholes is perhaps not a good idea. I'm just sarcastic and mildly pissed off because we've been telling many of these people this for 30+ years and they either wouldn't listen or didn't give a poo poo as long as only the "wrong" sort of people got the right end of the stick. The one with a nail in it. A mix of "I told you so !" and "motherfucker, where was your righteous indignation when *I* was getting stomped on ?" It also makes me suspect their motives - if they're only against violent cops because they don't like Macron and this is as good a stick as any to beat him with, will they go back to being OK with it when the next guy takes over or things go back to the "old normal" ?
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Cat Mattress posted:The problem with police is simple: who wants to be a policeman? Nobody in their right mind is going to want to be a cop because it's an attractive job prospect. So it leaves only those who are ideologically motivated to seek this job despite how much it sucks. That's not quite true - the majority of cops will just cut parking/speeding tickets, write paper on stolen property that'll never be found and break up the occasional domestic. Many people become that kind of cop because while the pay sucks, the police is perennially undermanned and will absolutely take on any warm body. One of my friends (although I haven't seen him in a while, ever since he got married and sprogged and hasn't got time for boardgames any more) is a Proudhon-quoting art college dude who became a képi after failing to make it as an artist three or four years running. You take what you can get when you're out of options. But the guys who volunteer for hard charging outfits, be it the BAC or the CRS, yeah, those are vicious monsters to a man. Hell, even the other cops look down on the CRS. Which is why it behooves both the préfets to be *very* circumspect about when to let them out of their kennel and strict about the length of leash they are allowed ; just as it behooves magistrates to immediately put down any of them who puts one toe over the line to make it clear that this is poo poo up with which will not be put. That has literally never been the case in the Vth Republic. Or really any of the Republics that came before. Attack dogs running wild (with, possibly, some sort of geographic fence to pen them in with their victims) has been the name of the game from the get go. Which is why I don't have overly much respect for those who only noticed action hero cops were problematic vicious little nazi bastards in TYOL 2019.
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The Balkanys' entire career is amazing. Like, I remember my parents joking about how crooked they both were... I dunno, maybe 20 years ago ? The Chirac years, back when I grew a political awareness. And it's not like my folks were in any political or financial inner circle or somesuch - anybody who owned anything anywhere near Levallois just knew. It wasn't even an open secret, it was just an open open. The dude was basically flinging stolen cash at people left and right at the city market. Every Sunday. And nobody cared because hey, the town's getting gentrified to gently caress and all the brownies and blue collars are going away, wheee. He got investigated a million times, always skated free except that one time he got 2 years off city hall courtesy of Justice (for financial fuckery, what else ?), so his wife was "mayor" for one term until he was eligible again. I am in awe of this man's brazenness, I really am. He's been involved, closely or loosely, in every. Single. Right-wing crooked scheme that's made the news over the past couple decades. It's not even like he ever back-stabbed anyone either, he's just in every bed in town. Chirac, Sarkozy, Tiberi, Macron... he's been at all the troughs, dodged all the taxes, regular as a German train. Again, openly so. And yet he still gets elected, year in, year out. It'd be beautiful if it wasn't, y'know, awful.
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Cat Mattress posted:That tells you everything one needs to know about the Levalloisiens. The French, I think. I mean, Chirac himself was President, twice, even though his terms at the Mairie de Paris were basically The Great Public Money Heist.
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Kurtofan posted:Oui, l'Iraq c'est un des rares trucs pas dégueulasse de la politique française, je suis d'accord. Notez que dès qu'il s'agit de faire chier le monde et/ou de faire la leçon aux gens, la France n'a JAMAIS démérité.
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100YrsofAttitude posted:the things legit British academics write about France would make you assume you're natural enemies as opposed to technical allies. Well we are. We're still playing the long game on that Joan poo poo, but... F'r'instance, how do you think the Chunnel, one of Napoleon's wetdreams, came into brick-and-mortar being ? 4D chess, my dude.
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In Balkany news, the right-wing city council members of Levallois yesterday organized a town hall around Balkany on speaker phone from his cell. He announced his intention to run for mayor again. #Chutzpah.
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Orange Devil posted:So uhh Dutch news is saying there's strikes at the railroads, metro, aviation, postal services, education, healthcare and even some actions at the police. How is this not a general strike? It pretty much is. "Don't gently caress with pensions both ways" is I believe the message.
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Picardy Beet posted:Only public sector is on strike right now. Private sector isn't. Nobody at my current company even speak on going on strike. Some support the public sector, some don't but the reality is this : private employees can't/don't give a gently caress anymore. That's why we've seen a new traffic jams record, around 500km around Paris. I've never been so happy to live in the South West As a friend reminded me, the public sector already got hosed on their pensions a while back (under Sarkozy I think ?) so they don't really have a dog in the fight. That said, he hasn't got any spite for the movement, he thinks the public sector is right to fight for their beefsteak and that Macron's government is doing them wrong, teachers especially. Orange Devil posted:Shut it all down, kick out the bums and institute socialism imo, we're on a tight deadline but 2019 can still be the new 1848. But who will play the part of Napoleon III ? I mean we still have one of the tiny Corsicans laying around somewhere (who looks like his ancestor something striking) but he's not in politics.
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I know ? I meant who will play the part Napoleon III played after the 1848 revolution. Who, indeed, will reassure the good people that the soshulist nightmare will soon end if only they be given Emperorship with Xtreme Powers to face the crisis. Forever.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Trust my experience as a civil servant in France: she can just not show up and then if asked about it say « oh, j’ai eu un empêchement ». Maybe she can half-shrug as a form of apology. It’ll be fine. My go-to excuse is "bad sushi coming out both ends". Always relatable since cheap takeaway sushi is pretty much the staple lunch in places I worked in, and it's uniformly terrible. Not health risk bad, but it feels like you're always surfing on that razor blade, yanno ? Anyway I would like to thank the Norway-Japan Salmon Concordat for dispensing me from having a social life, I will not be taking questions at this time.
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100YrsofAttitude posted:I hope they push back exams or something All the college/lycée teachers and uni ATERs I know are anxious about that and trying to get their EN hierarchy higher-ups to understand that 1) it's really needed pedagogically and 2) large concentrated exams are, in fact, huge virus-friendly gatherings to begin with. So far, it doesn't seem to have any impact. Personally, j'ai confiance en l'incompétence de mon pays - si y a moyen de faire les choses connement, on le fera !
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Keeping a laser focus on what *really* matters in a global sanitary crisis : corporate profits. Also: https://twitter.com/VictorLaby_/status/1241737491092144128
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unpacked robinhood posted:Stay home you disobedient fucks, it's your fault that we have to get tough on you criminal outside goers Channeling that good Black Plague energy "Les moiffons ne feronst poinct faytes, famine et chesretés guettoins si adieu luy pauperes ne les fissent, ett à l'oeil s'il vous pluct !"
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lost in postation posted:It's a joke about Middle French, the way English-speaking people would joke about ye olde forume poste or whatever Yup  . Also about the au feeling spelling & grammar found in documents up to the (very late) Modern era ; and the frequent peppering of Latin/Occitan words by Middle Age clerics whenever they forgot or didn't have a "real" French word at hand.But, translated : "If the harvest isn't done, famine and price hikes are to be feared. Poor people, go out and do them, and for free if you please !" It's all the more ridiculous that a) France, like most every Western country, wastes a huge amount of its agricultural produce just because it's not prettyyyy so even if this year we miss out on 50% of the harvest we'll likely still get just as many strawberries, peaches & lettuces (just not the prettiest of the pretty ones) and b) none of that concerns actual staple crops like wheat, corn, 'taters... which are easily picked mechanically. Bottomline : contrary to what asshat implies, we won't starve. Not this year, not any year. We're not in the loving Middle Ages any more. The only (but this one very real) risk is to the bottomline of peasants who planted strawberries or lettuces this year, don't have anybody at hand to pick them , and will likely eat a stone loss. (and while the argument of "haha no more Algerians and Poles to pick them for pennies, rear end in a top hat !" is not altogether wrong, it's also true than there simply aren't enough able bodied, unemployed, non_confined young people in the French countryside to help there). It's harsh, it really is. They'll need a handout, like so many other people and corps de métier will when the crisis is over. But for some reason, those fuckmooks don't ever ask for the exceptional solidarity of billionaires and corporations nor raise solidarity taxes on large fortunes in this time of crisis... Odd, that.
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Kassad posted:Oh so now the government is saying they'll invest massively in the hospital system. Good thing it will only have taken a few tens of thousands deaths (probably, when this is over), huh. Naaaah, don't worry brah, Manu said "when the crisis is over, we'll discuss doing a money thing for our Heroes". Meaning, when their heroics aren't needed any more. Meaning when he can feel free to forget the promise, and send his beloved FDO to bust their teeth in should they have the subversive idea to remember it ; or the downright petty and mercenary notion that their heroics should be rewarded in cash. Right now however, the urgency is in gutting the Code du Travail. Chaque chose en son temps.
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Cat Mattress posted:We can thank our healthcare personnel and promise them better funding to do their work, and en même temps continue to follow the same policy of screwing them up, along with everyone else who's not a billionaire. Il aura quand même bien fait le taf le fameux "en même temps", du coup.
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Kassad posted:https://twitter.com/LeHuffPost/status/1243951627817680896 Je suis Spartacus aussi
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Kassad posted:I mean, his thing about the bread being safe because it's been cooked is probably not accurate? Because the cashier is handling the bread after it's cooled, so the bread's surface could be contaminated. You'd need to put it in the oven at 60 degrees for about 30 minutes if you want to be on the safe side. Yes, but in Bruno Le Maire's defense he *is* a loving idiot.
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Cat Mattress posted:French policy these last thirty years has been to look at what failed in the anglo world and copy it, so of course Macron is trying to copy the American healthcare system. Ah, but there you've shown yourself for a narrow-minded, blind gôchisse fool, totally unfit to survive in the #StartUpNation. You think the anglo world policies are abject failures because of, well, *general, impotent and hopeless wave at everything*. When the much more salient reality is that they are only abject failures where the overwhelming majority of people are concerned. But the fuckers who lied and cheated and stole and bribed until the policies that massively advantaged them were durably set up in the first place ? They're SO MUCH BETTER OFF !! In the most immediate and short-sighted terms !!! That will never ever come back to bite them !!!!!!! Ha. Haha. HAHAHAHAHAAH ! 
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Chikimiki posted:For sure these additional hours and days will be well paid? What do you mean, "sometimes" ? I mean, they're pretty loving open about it.
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