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Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

This thread needs more Dutronc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_ADZYCUkDA

# ¿ Jun 28, 2017 19:12

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# ¿ May 4, 2024 07:18

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Kassad posted:

It's supposed to fight against conflicts of interests and stuff like that. Hence:

My favorite part is it forbid you to hire your family if you are mp but not the family of another mp so you can just hire your buddy family while your mp buddies hire your family.

# ¿ Jun 29, 2017 06:10

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Kurtofan posted:

two rings

Yeah the double underwood.

# ¿ Jun 29, 2017 13:11

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

^at least it's not the gallic wars by gaius julius cesar

Flowers For Algeria posted:

8:20, la France qui se l�ve t�t

Also 2 iphones?

e: and some music because what are we the canadian thread?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaIDRUp2Luo

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Jun 29, 2017

# ¿ Jun 29, 2017 13:44

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

"Le rouge et le noir" is one of the other 2 books. lol Is it a "wear a bullet proof vest" message to his wife?

# ¿ Jun 29, 2017 14:28

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Kassad posted:

M�lenchon and the other representatives from his party are going to boycott Macron's knockoff State of the Union address.

Reminder that macron put his hand to his heart when he sings the Marseillaise, :shobon:

. At least he is more up to date than loving Sarkozy.

# ¿ Jun 29, 2017 16:20

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Gort posted:

Why the gently caress has Macron invited Trump to Paris?

Who the gently caress know. Reminder: one crazy guy tried to shoot Chirac straight up from the street when he drove up the Champs Elys�es during the 14th of July Military parade. Maybe Macron need a solid excuse for his new liberticide security laws. Also maybe the republican party members asked him to get Trump outside of the country for a longer time again. Or he want to show Trump "paris didn't change" after Trump's rant a few month back, but it would be naive and honestly pointless if you ask me.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jun 29, 2017

# ¿ Jun 29, 2017 19:22

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Kurtofan posted:

Simone Veil and Louis Nicollin died the same day

Two names i wasn't expecting in the same sentence. Well at least it solves the "what woman to put in the Pantheon" problem.

# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 11:58

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Kassad posted:

https://twitter.com/Micbloch/status/880737161187913728

Yeah can we have Kratos, please.

# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 13:24

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Lawman 0 posted:

lol he wants to be emperor

Well, he is backed by the same kind of people who were backing Napoleon I&III. I loving don't know why anyone is surprised.

# ¿ Jul 2, 2017 07:15

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Kurtofan posted:

I've listened to the station speech, lmao, what the hell? i understand why he doesn't want to do interviews

People in the eu thread are wondering why i am melting down. Like jesus christ could Jupiter, great master of political com, waits for the end of summer before turning into hollande 2.0

# ¿ Jul 2, 2017 18:36

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

^^^we are dogs i guess
Inserting high quality french music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx7vKvQ4axQ

# ¿ Jul 2, 2017 18:41

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

icantfindaname posted:

Why not send them to Guyana? That's also a sacred 5000-year integral part of the Republic

We are cruel but not THAT cruel.

# ¿ Jul 3, 2017 11:39

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Don't bother, he's not going to come back until the next attack on a Muslim target in France, which he will proceed to blame on "White ISIS", and so goes the circle of life.

To be honest, modern Saudi Arabia and its religious madmen is weirdly similar to the French Old regime and its loving catholics assholes in term of bullshit.

Also Macron announced that the State of Emergency will stop in autumn. After all the hard police action parts of it have been moved to the normal non emergency police rules, i would guess.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Jul 3, 2017

# ¿ Jul 3, 2017 15:19

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

^^it involves redrawing the electoral map aka gerrymandering with the excuse of cutting cost.

Flowers For Algeria posted:

What a snoozefest of a speech. He sounded like Hollande at his most mediocre.

During the whole speech I kept being reminded of the thick of it, where the conservatives and most young politicians operatives were obsessed by the show west wing. Someone tell macron he is not president of the USA so he can drop the loving state of the nation speech every year idea, that's too circlejerky for our Gallic taste.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jul 3, 2017

# ¿ Jul 3, 2017 16:00

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Flowers For Algeria posted:

Speaking as a Frenchman living near Paris and as a connard myself, it's just something you gotta get used to. The secret is to interact with as few people as possible and throw hostile looks at everyone.

Groland had a fantastic sketch where a happy nice guy (i think it was Omar Sy) was treated like sub human poo poo in the capital for being overly polite until he started doing exactly that and stopped smiling and started treating his follow man like poo poo.
Edit: found it. Of course it's called integration.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Jul 4, 2017

# ¿ Jul 4, 2017 07:47

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Hazzard posted:

And I can't find it as an image, but the cover photo over the video on the BBC article looks too much like the image of a dictatorship, or a an Absolutist Monarch and I think that was deliberate.

Lol historically our first elected president (second republic) used to call himself the Prince President (Napoleon III). Then he made himself Emperor.
Also even the most bourgeois of the French republics always had a big boner for the military, do not let your Hollywood clich�s indoctrination tell you otherwise.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Jul 5, 2017

# ¿ Jul 5, 2017 14:30

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Kurtofan posted:

Cavaignac was the first Hillary

Thiers would have been a loving buzzfeed editor.

# ¿ Jul 5, 2017 14:35

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Mieux comprennez une d�partement?

"Connaissez mieux votre d�partement" aka "regardez FR3".

# ¿ Jul 8, 2017 08:36

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

blowfish posted:

please don't split, please don't split, please don't split, gently caress you why did you split

Speaking of split, the Front National is starting to heat up at their Summer Camp and it's just starting, something may happen (a split). I think Marine may go full actual right (aka only slightly racist but still racist) while the rest let her leave with the gay men and go fuller racist (aka it's not even integriste catholicism final form).

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 10:48 on Jul 8, 2017

# ¿ Jul 8, 2017 10:46

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Mes amis, je me dois de partager avec vous la nouvelle de cette grande perte pour la diplomacie fran�aise:

Le Monde posted:

Le procureur Nicolas Baietto a requis, mardi 23 mai, une peine de dix-huit mois d�emprisonnement avec sursis, assortie d�une interdiction d�exercer toute fonction publique et diplomatique pendant cinq ans contre l�ex-ambassadeur de France Boris Boillon, interpell� en juillet 2013 gare du Nord, alors qu�il s�appr�tait � prendre le Thalys pour Bruxelles, avec 350 000 euros et 40 000 dollars en esp�ces. Il a �galement demand� la confiscation de ces sommes.

Alors que le pr�venu avait affirm� au tribunal � les yeux dans les yeux � que son intention avait toujours �t� de d�clarer et de r�gulariser ces sommes en Belgique (o� il �tait fiscalement domicili�), le procureur a consid�r� que ses explications n��taient pas cr�dibles. Il a �galement soutenu que le contrat pr�sent� par Boris Boillon pour justifier sa r�mun�ration constituait un faux destin� � habiller a posteriori l�argent per�u en Irak, en � coupures neuves � dont la tra�abilit� n�a pas pu �tre �tablie.

Boris Boillon � a beaucoup de mal, aujourd�hui encore, � int�grer la notion de conflit d�int�r�ts �, a observ� Nicolas Baietto, qui a enjoint au tribunal de � faire barrage � � sa r�int�gration au Quai d�Orsay, en soulignant � l�incompatibilit� totale � entre les faits qui lui sont reproch�s et la n�cessaire � probit� des repr�sentants de l�Etat �.

Le procureur a �galement demand� aux juges de faire droit aux demandes de l�administration, qui r�clame une amende �quivalente � un quart de la somme saisie, soit 95 036 euros, et 50 000 euros au titre de l�imp�t sur le revenu, et de prononcer contre Boris Boillon l�interdiction de g�rer une soci�t� pendant cinq ans.

En d�fense, Me Jean Reinhart a d�nonc� � les hypoth�ses sans preuves � de l�enqu�te conduite contre son client, m�me si celui-ci � s�est �gar� en retournant en Irak � pour faire des affaires apr�s y avoir �t� ambassadeur. � Boris Boillon a travaill� et a �t� pay� pour cela, c�est l�gal �, a indiqu� Me Reinhart, qui ne reconna�t que le d�faut de d�claration de transfert d�esp�ces et plaide la relaxe pour les autres d�lits de faux, usage de faux, blanchiment de fraude fiscale et abus de biens sociaux.

Evoquant l�attentat terroriste de Manchester et ceux qui ont �t� perp�tr�s en France, l�avocat a observ� : � Ne croyez-vous pas que les comp�tences de Boris Boillon pour comprendre le monde musulman sont utiles et ne doivent pas �tre �cart�es ? Laissez-le revenir dans la discr�tion dans la diplomatie fran�aise. �

Le jugement a �t� mis en d�lib�r� au 7 juillet.

RIP Sarko-boy, je me souviendrai toujours de ton path�tique et si peu diplomatique sejour en Tunisie.

# ¿ Jul 8, 2017 11:38

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Soviet Commubot posted:

J'adore FR3

Oui c'est tr�s bien FR3. :colbert:

# ¿ Jul 8, 2017 16:34

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Squalid posted:

Does anyone have suggestions for reading on France's colonial history in Sub-Saharan Africa? I can find a lot on the UK's colonies, BBC documentaries on decolonization, long wikipedia articles, detailed histories of individual countries etc., but I can hardly find anything on French Africa. Like for example this wikipedia article on Senegal hardly has anything, it skips straight the year 1902 to independence in 1960. I mean Senegal was a French colony for like 300 hundred years during which distinct Metis communities formed, but there's hardly anything approachable I can find on it.

Lol who do you think we are? Some anglo-saxon/germanic society who will document its own criminal history to better self-flagellate later and pretend to be amongst civilized nations after reparations?
I think our history in Africa can be sum up as We Came, We Saw, We hosed up. Never let us in again please, we have a problem.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 07:25

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Flowers For Algeria posted:

How dare you say that France ever did anything wrong in Africa? This is an insult to all those who were there, who gave their lives for their country. �a suffit la repentance

All those good families who made a fortune ~~exploiting people as slaves~~ spreading civilization! What's next, forcing them to give the money back? They'd rather see the state and the poor people pay for their sin!

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Jul 12, 2017

# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 08:31

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Okay, maybe we should let the pros of "colonialism was good" speak for themselves.

quote:

G�rard Longuet d�fend le bilan du colonialisme

L'ancien ministre UMP estime que le colonialisme ne peut �tre jug� � l'aune d'aujourd'hui, et que, replac� dans son contexte historique, il a eu un bilan "acceptable" et m�me "positif"

L'ancien ministre UMP G�rard Longuet estime que le colonialisme ne peut �tre jug� � l'aune d'aujourd'hui, et que, replac� dans son contexte historique, il a eu un bilan "acceptable" et m�me "positif".

Interrog� par �crit par Public S�nat sur Fran�ois Hollande d�non�ant � Alger un syst�me colonial "injuste et brutal", le s�nateur juge "p�rilleux et parfaitement inutile de pr�tendre, dans une intervention de quelques dizaines de minutes, traiter et �puiser un sujet aussi complexe que l'aventure coloniale fran�aise".

"Que la colonisation ait �t� faite au profit du colonisateur, personne n'en doute", argumente l'�lu de la Meuse, mais, "si elle �tait injuste, elle constituait, au regard de ce qu'�tait la soci�t� traditionnelle ottomane, un v�ritable progr�s". "Le colonialisme a en gros un bilan acceptable, un bilan positif � je vais mettre les pieds dans le plat ! s'exclame l'ex-ministre de la d�fense. Je crois que le colonialisme n'est pas � l'origine des difficult�s actuelles de l'Alg�rie, il faudrait que les Alg�riens aient l'honn�tet� de le reconna�tre", dit-il.

"UN SYST�ME RELATIF"

Pour M. Longuet, le discours du chef de l'Etat ne peut avoir qu'un "effet n�gatif" sur les Fran�ais issus de familles immigr�s, "parce que �a va justifier ceux qui sont mal dans leurs baskets dans l'id�e qu'il y a une explication � cela".

Il appelle � "beaucoup de tact sur ces sujets. Nous avons une immigration africaine" et "nous ne devons pas les entretenir dans l'id�e qu'ils sont engag�s dans un pays qui s'est obstin�ment mal comport� � l'�gard de leur territoire d'origine. Sinon comment voulez-vous qu'ils soient heureux dans notre pays ? Je crois qu'il faut au contraire montrer que le syst�me colonial est un syst�me relatif".

Interrog� � la fin d'octobre sur la demande d'Alger de reconnaissance des crimes du colonialisme, M. Longuet avait, pendant un g�n�rique de fin d'�mission, fait un bras d'honneur. Ce responsable qui milita dans sa jeunesse � l'extr�me droite (tr�s pro-Alg�rie fran�aise) avait ensuite assum� ce geste.

La politique du bras d'honneur.
edit: the same blogging about Macron's attempt about Algerie: http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/gerard-longuet/emmanuel-macron-algerie-crime-humanite_a_21715222/

Also if you want some contemponary french bullshit in Africa, try to search about Bolor� and palm oil.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Jul 12, 2017

# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 08:48

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Ahahahahan les s�nateurs ont rejet� la mesure phare du projet de loi de moralisation politique aka les emplois familiaux chez les collaborateurs parlementaires sont toujours legaux.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 17:22

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

HookShot posted:

I'm so shocked that politicians rejected a law that would prevent them from being huge nepotists!

Actually they pointed out it was discriminatory and the problem being fake jobs the parlement should just control it the way the senate do with its assistants.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 17:37

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

lost in postation posted:

The optics of stating that nepotism is all right as long as your family members actually do something aren't all that great either, though.

The thing is your deputy friend could still hire your family and you could still hire his family, so the insensitive being the job is done sounds better if you want to reduce fraud.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 17:52

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Okay, question for the american people: do each member of the Trump family get his own motorcade? Because last time i saw the president of the Usa move inside Paris it was under 40 vehicles including the french police bikers(a 38 vehicles motorcade) and this time it's slightly under 70 vehicles (68 to be precise). Did he get a few minibuses to move his ego with him?

# ¿ Jul 13, 2017 15:17

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

HookShot posted:

The bigger the motorcade the bigger your penis, didn't you know that?

"Each one of his tiny hands has its own bus." was also a correct answer.

# ¿ Jul 13, 2017 17:50

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Did we just elect Joffrey Baratheon, could we get his grand dad or his dwarf uncle instead?

# ¿ Jul 13, 2017 20:15

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

A Buttery Pastry posted:

You actually elected a real life person and not a fictional character.

But Game of Throne is just a "Les rois maudits" fanfic by a fat american fan.

# ¿ Jul 13, 2017 21:49

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Kassad posted:

Saying what his audience of the moment wants to hear, as usual.

Yeah but at that game of only saying what people want to hear, sooner or later he may end up creating enough contradictions to gently caress himself up.

# ¿ Jul 17, 2017 11:51

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

lost in postation posted:

A French comic who's been associating with the FN and the negationist crowd in the past ten years or so. He's also been close to the catholic fundamentalists and a bunch of other nutters.

He used to work alongside a now insanely famous Jewish comic. Also he is black and published a book about the death threat letters he used to get from the crazy racists he now works with/for. Also he is the man behind the antisemetic quenelle gesture. From Semoun to Soral. :rolleyes:

Also he is a Mahmoud Ahmadinejad admirer.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jul 17, 2017

# ¿ Jul 17, 2017 18:26

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

https://twitter.com/jamescheron/status/887243658499588096/photo/1

I swear to god it's funnier than it should be. I mean jesus the level of discussion we are reaching is loving low as gently caress.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jul 19, 2017

# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 19:10

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

lost in postation posted:

Turns out welcoming anybody with a heartbeat into the big liberal tent was a mistake, who woulda thunk it.

He literally says that he couldn't do his job because he was tired after giving judo lessons; how is this not a Gorafi article

Because the gorafi staff is too busy copy-pasting Claire "morano 2.0" O'petit's speeches. Shine on you crazy diamond!

# ¿ Jul 25, 2017 15:25

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Cat Mattress posted:

Et L�on Blum, c'est du poulet?

Prime ministers who actually answer to the parliament doesn't count.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2017 11:30

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

It's bizutage week at the parliament this week. They(LREM) ended up voting against one of their own amendment. Also Ferrand proposed an amendment to remove the "no one with past sentences can be MP" part. He probably doesn't have good feelings about his current affair. He also tried to torpedo the removal of the deputies' reserve. Also the party (but should we call it that?) is already showing ideological splits on various subject.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jul 28, 2017

# ¿ Jul 28, 2017 16:13

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Condiv posted:

how the hell would you even have a liberal dictatorship. isn't that an oxymoron?

Liberal is generally used to mean "market liberal" in French, not Human rights liberal. Also "droit de l'hommiste" ("human-rightist" aka people who defend human rights) is an insult used by the far right.

# ¿ Aug 13, 2017 09:59

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# ¿ May 4, 2024 07:18

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

x420ReDdIT_Br0nYx posted:

and the sun wheel was everywhere; which is weird since I recognized that last one because it's (mostly, AFAIK) used by the Aryan Sisterhood, and it wasn't used by leather-clad female SS praetorians but by regular shitlords with wooden shields.

Also gently caress those assholes for ruining good iconography. I know it's down the list but seriously, they could use the Hillary Clinton H with arrow to make Heil Hitler instead it wouldn't ruin millennia old symbols with their poo poo.

# ¿ Aug 14, 2017 06:07

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