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Jeb! Repetition posted:Because the media can't conjure footage of antifa violence out of thin air, and it's about convincing people on the sidelines, not the opposition. We still live in a democracy as much as you hate that fact. In the absence of violence they would be ignored. Status quo ante is we're ignored and marginalized while fascists have all the protection in the world from the police state. "Democracy" has nothing to do with it, and you know it.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:In the absence of violence they would be ignored. Status quo ante is we're ignored and marginalized while fascists have all the protection in the world from the police state. Democracy is the reason the way we look matters.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Democracy is the reason the way we look matters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXo0lgcOHhg&t=96s What do you mean "we," librul?
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The liberal preoccupation with appearances and optics are the primary reason we find ourselves in the predicament of the Trump administration. Liberals were so obsessed with how they looked that they became paralyzed in terms of actually wielding the powers they had seized, and ran a candidate who was symbolically rich but substantively empty against an opponent who exploited all of his toxic qualities to create a cultural wedge that shoehorned his way into the oval office. I'm done with hearing liberal appeals to appearances, and their fear of perceptions.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The liberal preoccupation with appearances and optics are the primary reason we find ourselves in the predicament of the Trump administration. Liberals were so obsessed with how they looked that they became paralyzed in terms of actually wielding the powers they had seized, and ran a candidate who was symbolically rich but substantively empty against an opponent who exploited all of his toxic qualities to create a cultural wedge that shoehorned his way into the oval office. The optics of trump was person who isn't a politician going to see the poo poo partsoff the country and telling them he's going to make it better. The optics of Hillary was a corrupt life politician refusing to engage with the majority of the population. Optics matters but nor in the way liberals claim it does.
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That's also why stomping nazis out of the streets is more important than appearing reasonable.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:That's also why stomping nazis out of the streets is more important than appearing reasonable. I don't understand how people like you miss the fundamental point that people who are currently unengaged in politics aren't going to climb on board if to the outside observer politics appears to be a mix of that more money for me gently caress you comic and that weird Russian full contact version of renfair SPADA armed combat.
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Byolante posted:I don't understand how people like you miss the fundamental point that people who are currently unengaged in politics aren't going to climb on board if to the outside observer politics appears to be a mix of that more money for me gently caress you comic and that weird Russian full contact version of renfair SPADA armed combat. i am all for discouraging nazi sympathizers from joining up with nazis by making them afraid of the combat that will entail i am also all for antifa protecting people and non-violent protesters from nazis who would like nothing more than to murder them and blame non-violent protesters for their own deaths basically, antifa are great and help make politics a safe space for more leftist leaning people in this country run by a day-glo fascist
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I for one pine for the days of 1930's Europe, which ended well for everyone involved.
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dont even fink about it posted:I for one pine for the days of 1930's Europe, which ended well for everyone involved. I mean it's like 2.50 for a candy bar nowadays. Them student loans and housing markets pop and it'll be a nice 50 gallon wheelbarrow for a Snickers
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dont even fink about it posted:I for one pine for the days of 1930's Europe, which ended well for everyone involved. look it makes sense when you consider marx's famous prediction: "history repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as something really, really good that's not really a repeat at all"
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dont even fink about it posted:I for one pine for the days of 1930's Europe, which ended well for everyone involved. Mussolini took power in 1922 because nobody resisted the March on Rome, and Hitler got his second chance because the Weimar state treated his first attempted coup with kid gloves. The police sided with the Brown Shirts then, too.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Mussolini took power in 1922 because nobody resisted the March on Rome, and Hitler got his second chance because the Weimar state treated his first attempted coup with kid gloves. The police sided with the Brown Shirts then, too. Understanding historical context is verboten to conservatives and centrist ideology only makes sense of you live in an ahistoric world where it's constantly 1994 and Communism is gone and it's the end of history
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Mussolini took power in 1922 because nobody resisted the March on Rome, and Hitler got his second chance because the Weimar state treated his first attempted coup with kid gloves. The police sided with the Brown Shirts then, too. "Look we agree with what you're saying but we have to lock you up in club med because we need to uphold the law" - the german authorities
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:That's also why stomping nazis out of the streets is more important than appearing reasonable. To be honest, a big benefit I see to the antifa stuff isn't so much trying to prevent fascism (though that's also good) but more making real and direct political conflict visible. Like, it forces people to think about these issues and choose sides. It's a little hard to articulate what I mean, but the gist of it is that people might become more radicalized if they see this sort of direct confrontation taking place, as opposed to feeling powerless in a system where all political changes are made by elite politicians.
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as much as american's booed the soviet union they love the soviet model of politics: a strong figure that dictates policy to a legislature that exists to make his will law like I bet you could get a chunk of americans to love lukashenko
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Look guys the CCCP collapsed in the 90s. That means a communist party can never again gain power and we must suppress communists just in case. But there's been fascists since the 1950s so it's OK if more fascist nations or parties arise
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Fallen Hamprince posted:
nah, hillary has no doubt she's pouring money into this after endorsing this
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Come up with a name for the Peter Daou podcast, go
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Come up with a name for the Peter Daou podcast, go Tweetfight Radio
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Come up with a name for the Peter Daou podcast, go Daou for the Count
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The Daou of Hillary
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The Little Kielbasa posted:The Daou of Hillary
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Are we getting to the stage yet where corncobs embrace the term? I recall a few republicans proudly calling themselves cucks in an dumb attempt to hijack the definition.
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Top City Homo posted:The Daoun Syndrome 
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Really hope the dccc goes bankrupt.
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poo poo Dimitri, and it's ALL YOUR FAULT and even after they told you how good they are sad also, how them tech dollars now you lanyard fucks!
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The natural state of the lanyard liberal is to beg for money all day like NPR
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