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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
Gatoh Move Experience is live:
https://gatohmovex.pivotshare.com/

There's not much on there at the moment, but 9.99/month is about the same as a Patreon would be if they were running one.

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
I wonder if it's the preamble to an online network to counter Tokyo Joshi Pro's presence on Wrestle Universe and market more broadly outside of Japan.

(and of course Gatoh Move's irrepressible no pay wall youtube channel)

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

TV Zombie posted:

Hyper Misao said that she was still going to wrestle after marriage, right?

Before or after the last show?

During the show she made it very clear that she was still going to wrestle while married.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
MARVELOUS is basically Chigusa Nagayo's Gatoh Move/Ice Ribbon. There's a lot of cuteness and the personal touch connection with the fans, but the emphasis is on good to great wrestling over characters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QeOs48QYeo

It's largely about her trainees, workrate matches, and presents itself as a successor to the AJW/Gaea style.

Warning: traces of those promotions' training attitudes still exist in MARVELOUS, while mild I've seen occasional things on dojo streams that make me go "hmm".

While matches are mostly on NicoNico, there's still a lot of stuff on Youtube, especially during the Covid era:

Marvelous Youtube

Notably for modern Joshi it has a noticeable female following.

fez_machine fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Feb 17, 2021

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

forkboy84 posted:

Ice Ribbon broadcast a show on Youtube this morning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKRl0Nb9MXo

Ice Ribbon finally joins the new wave of youtube Sakuraism! Has Joshi wrestling's most Forbidden Door opened a crack?

Also why did they air an episode (?) of anime in their show?

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

GEORGE W BUSHI posted:

https://twitter.com/senjo2006/status/1364104889043886086?s=19

Hibiki invaded a Sendai Girls show to yell her manifesto and insult people over her megaphone despite apologising for doing it at Marvelous. I'm not sure where they're going with this story but I'm enjoying it

What is her manifesto?

This thread suggests it's people like each other too much? But also Joshi is too burdened by its past?
https://twitter.com/1222Dragonmoon/status/1350840073030254592

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
This seems like an important live stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAhWY92q8lo

Nanae Takahashi was involved in founding Stardom and runs Seadlinnng

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

TV Zombie posted:

Will Akki be there as well or will it all be in Japanese?

Akki is here but off screen, he's translating

Topic is going to be Stardom.

But it's going deep into shared history.

fez_machine fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Feb 27, 2021

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Holy moly forbidden doors coming down all over the place

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Pylons posted:

A Wrestleuniverse thread would make a lot of sense. Do those other promotions even do much live streams?
A Wrestle Universe thread might lead to more eyes on DDT and Noah.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

TV Zombie posted:

I wonder what brought that tweet out

Maki Itoh has been getting a lot of real nasty flak from certain corners of the internet/twitter.

The fact that the tweet has no Japanese equivalent suggests they're providing moral support.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Stall_19 posted:

Watching a pre pandemic match makes me realize the one benefit of Covid Era is that we don't have to hear that one guy (you know who I'm talking about) constantly yelling all through the show. Used to think he was a Stardom superfan but as I watched more Joshi promotions nope he's everywhere.

April 2019 was a bad time for Japanese wrestling https://twitter.com/skeach101/status/1123063627735535619

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo0hDj2m5AE

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
Emi Sakura is going to be interviewing Natsuki Taiyo of Seadlinnng for the latest Chocotalk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcSioGV3VU8

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

GEORGE W BUSHI posted:

So weird that SEAd are allowed to show AEW footage from the Japan tournament but have to show still images of Ryo in America.

Maybe it's just what they have easy access to. The tournament was on youtube/filmed with a Japanese production crew after all.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

RealFoxy posted:

I know TJPW isn't the best Joshi promotion out there but they've got so many different styles and personalities that makes every show so easy to watch. There's no house style, even if they've only got like 2 or 3 trainers.

taps the minoru suzuki quote sign

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

RealFoxy posted:



This one?

This one:

quote:

He’s a guy who stepped in my house and didn’t take his shoes off at the front door. The “former WWE Superstar Dean Ambrose”. Changed his look up a bit and here he is. Look, I’ve been watching him for a while, yeah. Can he grapple? No. Is he strong? No. Tough? No. He can’t do s**t.

–No?

Suzuki: Not. S**t. But that’s created a spot for him.

— I see.

Suzuki: Do you, though? Look at what makes a great wrestler. Tall, muscular, can kick, can throw hands, can suplex people, can tap them out, can fly, is charismatic. Get all that together and you have a cleanup hitter. That’s the kind of guy that makes hacks like you, or the fans in the crowd give them the nod.

–Right. The total package.

Suzuki: But make an all star team of guys like that, and they’re the most boring team in the league. These days, you can make your own characters in the videogames, right?

–Yes, they have edit modes.

Suzuki: So some kid with their video game goes and makes their dream promotion, and it’s full of those aces right? But a baseball team that’s full of cleanup hitters won’t go anywhere. It’s the same for wrestling promotions.

There’s nobody else like him. That’s why he’s successful.

–So, even though he was successful in the major American leagues, Jon Moxley is by no means the total package as a wrestler, in your opinion.

Suzuki: It’s a bit of a paradox, but it’s because of that he got chances in WWE. There’s nobody else like him, right? Nobody in the majors in America is like him. So he stands out. Nobody gets that.

Look. An absolute all-round perfectionist, the perfect complete player, tens in every category? Not even Tanahashi is that. Naito isn’t that. They don’t exist.

–Those slants, the weaknesses make strengths stand out, and made Moxley stand out.

Suzuki: Hehehe… Everyone in this business is a mark, you included. You fans have this idea of ratings, of skill points. You put all those points in a hexagon graph and calculate an average; ‘oh he’s a good wrestler, over 80 overall’. BS. Who the hell will pay money to buy a ticket, and see a guy who’s a perfect hexagon, 8 out of 10 or above in all areas? The guy with zero overall, the guy who can’t do anything at all, he’s a better draw.

–Moxley is a unique breed? Organic, you mean? Real?

Suzuki: Why is Lance Archer popular? Why does Zack Sabre Junior have the support he does? Because there’s stuff they can’t do. Nobody in this goddamn business understands that. Wrestlers don’t understand that. Trainers, people teaching these kids don’t understand that for crying out loud!

–The system wants to create all rounders.

Suzuki: So the kids go in, and they train, and their trainers find what the gaps are in their games, and they try to fill those gaps right up. So you have this perfectly smooth, grey lump of boring trash. Fill in those holes on a wrestler and there’s no way in hell he’s filling seats with asses. It’s up to us to make people talk, to make them disagree. Make them argue. So Moxley? It’s because he can’t do s**t that he’s a good wrestler.

https://www.njpw1972.com/71601

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
The Ganbare Joshi Special is up on Wrestle Universe: https://www.ddtpro.com/universe/videos/10294

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

GEORGE W BUSHI posted:

Joshi City is a weird guy who is into joshi for the photobooks and gravure so I wouldn't put much stock into what he says. I don't think there's really enough western Ice Ribbon stans to have any collective opinion on them.

At least the weirdest Ice Ribbon guy gave ChocoPro fans, like myself, a very useful history of the dentist's office.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Can Marvelous survive the roster reduction? They're a tiny promotion and it's not like you conjure up a few new women to pass a Chigusa level ring test.

fez_machine fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Aug 31, 2021

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

GEORGE W BUSHI posted:

It definitely feels like those signings should be reversed

All the Marvellous departures end up in YMZ

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
Left Arm: Sakurism

Right Arm: Inokisim

Hands Clasped Together: Producing Shooters

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
Is there a story about why Yuu is listed as being from Pro Wrestling Eve in the new GLEAT?

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Johnny Landmine posted:

Yuu has been representing Eve pretty much since she first left to go abroad in 2019. She's functionally a freelancer in Japan but considers Eve her home promotion.

Is it a pandemic thing that she hasn't worked there more and there's a formal relationship, or is it just that she liked her time at EVE and decided that instead of being a straight Joshi freelancer she'd rep a foreign promotion? Because she's had more matches in nearly every other promotion she's ever worked.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Lamuella posted:

honestly with their recent efforts to appeal to a more international market I'm surprised that CyberAgent haven't tried to lock down Stewart Fulton and Mark Pickering to do English commentary on all DDT, Noah, and TJPW shows.

Regular English commentary is coming for sure but Fulton and Pickering are NOAH guys through and through. Although they do a good job with TJPW (have they done DDT commentary?) you can tell where their heart lies.

Remember it took years of fine tuning to get NJPW in the state it is now.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
Is there some reason why Riho and Mizuki's gear is so similar?

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
Miyu humiliation hour has started:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgDsGPkg_lA

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
Hyper Misao is the equivalent of the DDT comedy specialists, like Antonio Honda and DD. She's the person who keeps the spirit of DDT alive in a promotion that's established it's own separate and distinct vibe.

I don't think Yano would have done anything like the Hyper Misao retirement match/celebration.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

GEORGE W BUSHI posted:

In a really deep pull, AWG are bringing back Natsumi Showzuki who was part of Stardom's third gen with Kairi and Act. She's been retired since 2015

Who's backing AWG anyway? Everything I see about it or read about it makes seem like an odd duck in the Joshi world.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

coconono posted:

AWG is really evasive when bringing in women for training. Several were told it was going to be training for action TV or stage play stuff. It’s kinda skeezy.

Jesus christ.

Like every other Joshi promotion has a reason to exist but AWG doesn't seem to have a driving force behind it. There can't be so much money sloshing around in Joshi that'd you make such a speculative play for the market.

Stardom: Rossy's nth try after AJW that stuck

TJPW: DDT making a play for post-Ice Ribbon Joshi audiences

Ice Ribbon: Ground out their way to success, discovered the new Joshi audience.

Oz Academy: AJW nostalgia and old style Joshi heeling

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
I haven't seen this posted anywhere (maybe I missed it in the social media thread) but Kylie Rae is out again:
https://twitter.com/IamKylieRae/status/1451897924645015556

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
An article to remind you that Queen of The Ring by Jaimie Hernandez is great and what WWE did to women's wrestling and it's perception is a god-damned tragedy:
https://cnmnmag.com/queen-of-the-ring-wrestling-drawings-jaime-hernandez-3-panels-column/

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
https://twitter.com/uug_p_STAFF/status/1454735213645361159

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Stall_19 posted:

Well that sucks. Guess we'll see where everyone lands I'm sure some will stay but they had a lot of wrestlers under contract. Plus I imagine some of them retiring is a possibility as well. Unfortunate all around.

At least they have a clearer niche now

Also the Shimmer archive is gonna open faster:
https://twitter.com/SHIMMERwomen/status/1459757780122972162

fez_machine fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Nov 14, 2021

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
I will always vote for Hyper Misao

fez_machine fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Nov 27, 2021

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
This is a huge loss for the Ice Ribbon roster right?

I can't imagine the people running the promotion are particularly happy about letting those deathmatch wrestling exhibition matches happen.

Although the departure seems amicable in the sense that the press conference is happening in the dojo and Ice Ribbon understandably saying we can't present full on hardcore and deathmatch within the Ice Ribbon brand.

Sakuraism in the mud as more and more wrestlers leave Sakuraist promotions to do deathmatch and UWFi rules matches.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Pylons posted:

I'm surprised, honestly, but I guess she enjoys wrestling in the US even if she hasn't had a prominent role in AEW since coming back.

Ryo's on record saying that the only reason she didn't retire is the AEW contract. She, like Emi, is going to make this work come hell or high water.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

This is like losing Kevin Kelly or Chris Charlton in terms of impact on potential English language engagement.

DDT English Update not only delivered vital translations but also knew what specifically would appeal to Western fans.

Cyberfight don't know how lucky they had it.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Power Windows posted:

https://twitter.com/pikapika_GLEAT/status/1468401303139516422?s=20

To prepare for her match against Miyagi tomorrow, Yukari Hosokawa (FKA RinRin from ChocoPro) has been listening to Jesus Christ Superstar.

hahaha you can take the girl out of ChocoPro but you can't take the ChocoPro out of the girl.

I would have sworn she was going to go full on Shibata black for her shooter gimmick.

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
For reference this is what the last Gake no Fuchi Joshi Pro Wrestling 1.4 show was like
https://headmeetchair.com/2020/01/no-joke-gake-no-fuchi-joshi-1-4-report/#more-465

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