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Frenz posted:if you watch the commandant's speech on the projectors you can catch a glimpse of ocelot's men moving into position on the catwalks What
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Unexpected Raw Anime posted:for mg1/2 keep a guide handy "..."
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Pablo Gigante posted:Ghost Babel FTW he'll yeah
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emoji posted:Recommended order for complete library playthru for new player? (been saving this forever lol and avoid half the internet to avoid spoilers lol) Genuinely jealous of you being able to freshly experience some of the best gaming of all time... enjoy.
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Unexpected Raw Anime posted:for mg1/2 keep a guide handy unnecessary
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They recorded unique dialogue for every single hallway you could ever find yourself stuck in if you just call Colonel Campbell.
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Is MG1 reasonably doable without the map or a guide? Whenever I replay it I can do up through like the tank by memory and then I lose interest. I beat it as a kid and remember at least using the map a lot, but that could be either because it was necessary or because I was six
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Metal Gear 2 you absolutely WILL need a guide for a certain part. So yes.
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In Training posted:They recorded unique dialogue for every single hallway you could ever find yourself stuck in if you just call Colonel Campbell. He's talking Metal Gear 2
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The Milkman posted:Is MG1 reasonably doable without the map or a guide? Whenever I replay it I can do up through like the tank by memory and then I lose interest. I beat it as a kid and remember at least using the map a lot, but that could be either because it was necessary or because I was six The real version is really loving hard without a guide or map sometimes. The NES is really simple in comparison
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Jul 6, 2017 05:36
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Oh. MG1/2 arent very fun
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i remember beating both mg games as a teenager with no guide when i would pirate absolutely anything in sight and pretty much emulated every single game that was not from a windows era. its also why im now permanently brain damaged with the same sort of disease that affects lyle and ragg where i immediately hate any attempt a developer does to make a game not completely impenetrable to the average gamer
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trying to jack off posted:i remember beating both mg games as a teenager with no guide when i would pirate absolutely anything in sight and pretty much emulated every single game that was not from a windows era. its also why im now permanently brain damaged with the same sort of disease that affects lyle and ragg where i immediately hate any attempt a developer does to make a game not completely impenetrable to the average gamer so how did you know the knock code in two without a guide or the actual instructions?
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The Milkman posted:Is MG1 reasonably doable without the map or a guide? Whenever I replay it I can do up through like the tank by memory and then I lose interest. I beat it as a kid and remember at least using the map a lot, but that could be either because it was necessary or because I was six I think there is one (or two at most) bit where I couldn't progress and had to look up a specific thing that I just couldn't figure out (this is what one would have done back in the day anyway, only via friends or a magazine so it hardly ruins the experience) but that was it. Of course I did have the manual.
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Liquid Drink posted:so how did you know the knock code in two without a guide or the actual instructions? i can barely remember anything about the games since i was like 13 but im sure the version i downloaded came with a manual
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Jul 6, 2017 06:14
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i beat police quest with no guide around the same period 
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Liquid Drink posted:The real version is really loving hard without a guide or map sometimes. The NES is really simple in comparison Jerry Cotton posted:I think there is one (or two at most) bit where I couldn't progress and had to look up a specific thing that I just couldn't figure out (this is what one would have done back in the day anyway, only via friends or a magazine so it hardly ruins the experience) but that was it. Of course I did have the manual. yeah i think for the most part you could fumble your way through but it doesn't really lend itself to that. i wouldn't want to play it that way. there's worse examples but it's not like zelda or whatever where it's fairly discoverable
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The Milkman posted:i need to play the msx one all the way through. i've only played 2 off subsistence I thought the version in Subsistence was the MSX version, just with a better translation and codec character art that looks more like Shinkawa art and less like Mel Gibson.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:I thought the version in Subsistence was the MSX version, just with a better translation and codec character art that looks more like Shinkawa art and less like Mel Gibson. It is/they are.
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Jul 6, 2017 11:50
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I was talking about the two originals and you absolutely cannot beat 2 without either a guide or the instruction manual
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Hell its inscrutable to the point of not fun playing MG1 with out a guide. Flame me if you must but it's true.
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MGS1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4 -> PW -> GZ -> TPP is everything
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Release order is the only way to properly play these games, for your first time. Chronological is for veterans only.
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I'd go so far as to say you could skip MG1 or just watch a walkthrough. MG2 is essential and unlike 1 is fun to play.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:I'd go so far as to say you could skip MG1 or just watch a walkthrough. MG2 is essential and unlike 1 is fun to play. Don't skip it in my opinion. You should see how the game flows to appreciate why MGS is perfection.
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rediscover posted:Release order is the only way to properly play these games, for your first time. Every game is a reiteration of the previous games at least to some extent and the later games are basically "sneak a bit and then look at all these throwbacks we packed in!" so this is true. "You can't play this game without an instruction manual" is kind of  I mean duh.I actually remember Metal Gear 2 being easier with exactly one thing I had to look up because I tried using just the smoke bombs and not smoking.
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Now that SGDQ is over I can get back to MGS3
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Planning on doing a no kill but immediately the first guard I grabbed with CQC I accidentally slit his threat
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In Training posted:Planning on doing a no kill but immediately the first guard I grabbed with CQC I accidentally slit his threat Someone needs a lesson on pressure sensitive buttons.
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for at least the first like hour of any mgs 1-3 replay im always clumsy as hell
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In Training posted:Planning on doing a no kill but immediately the first guard I grabbed with CQC I accidentally slit his threat That happened my second no kill run attempt. On my first attempt I got all the way to the mountain and when i tranq'd a guard near a ledge he slid off the mountain to his death.
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Zas posted:for at least the first like hour of any mgs 1-3 replay im always clumsy as hell Yeah it takes a while to adjust. But once I get to the ocelot fight I'm in the groove, popping out of cover, dodge rolling, shooting beehives etc. And then I have to stumble through the caves for an hour ...
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its still really crazy to me that the ps2 had pressure sensitive face buttons but apparently only mgs3 used them
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ArfJason posted:its still really crazy to me that the ps2 had pressure sensitive face buttons but apparently only mgs3 used them I think Gran Turismo used them for analog acceleration before PS3/360 had the analog triggers and driving games moved to those.
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Son of a bitch....The Bouncer used the pressure sensitive buttons for different moves. Since I played it on an emulator I had no idea. Guess Ill have to buy a disc copy
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I want to say that the Ace combat games used the pressure sensitivity in some way, but it may have just been the triggers.
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Zas posted:for at least the first like hour of any mgs 1-3 replay im always clumsy as hell Hmm same but all the time and I get like G rank.
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Zas posted:for at least the first like hour of any mgs 1-3 replay im always clumsy as hell Same. Even though I usually play them once every 2-3 years I'm baffled at how I was ever good at them.
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I just started MGS5TPP and loving hell the Russians started lobbing mortar shells on my arse.
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