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Oct 4, 2008

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2house2fly posted:

he places a lot of importance on the voting booths, which makes it weird that he doesn't seem to have paid much attention to them. Suggesting that they shift the blame for the rulers' crimes onto the populace and excuses the state is a reading which requires him to completely miss that the video begins with a threat and, if you protest, ends with you being executed.

True. And it's not a normal living society anyway: It's a spaceship, and most of the passengers are cargo. It is essentially social stasis, so the society can be safely revived generations later when they reach their destination. I guess they didn't develop reliable cryosleep in time. Everything must be tightly controlled, because the margin for error is so thin in an artificial environment like that. There wouldn't be any homeless people, because reproduction would be controlled to not produce excess population that couldn't be housed, fed, and provided breathable air.

That analysis assumes inherent conflict between the rulers and the rest of the population. Even on a lifeboat. Bizzare.



Feeding small children to the space whale was dumb, especially once they knew the whale wouldn't eat them. They knew it was dumb, but they couldn't change it. Sounds like the Smilers were unable to be reprogrammed in flight. Probably an anti-corruption measure locked in at the beginning of the voyage. Completely impartial and autonomous law enforcement, in a situation where every crime is a capital crime.

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Oct 4, 2008

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It's a completely static society 'ruled' by an immortal queen who gets her memory reset every few decades. She's not an rear end in a top hat, and as long as she's immortal you don't need to worry that one of her heirs will be an rear end in a top hat. Getting her memory reset periodically keeps her from getting bored and jaded. She's exactly the same ruler she was 200 years ago.

There is a harsh but completely automated and completely impartial system of law enforcement.

There are no new developments. No new ideas. No new products. Complete stasis.

From what we see there is also no real want. No hunger.

No real room for organized crime or corrupt lobbyists. No way to accumulate vast wealth. In a situation like that, corruption is going to be something like getting your flat repainted every 8 years instead of every 10. And it will gall you that those corrupt bastards on the county/tower council are getting their flats repainted that often. Or that your widowed neighbour gets to live in a 2 bedroom flat by herself, because she doesn't want to move and her son has the connections to keep her from being reassigned to a 1 bedroom.

The whole society was engineered top to bottom to be as stable as possible. Not an ideal society, but a society with the best chance of getting your descendants to a new world.

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adhuin posted:

also demographics in UK are very different from US.
In 2011 UK was 87% White (down from 92% in 2001), with biggest minority being Asian/Asian British at 7%.

Right, but the demographics of London, the most important city on planet earth, are only 60% white as of 2011. 18% asian* and 13% black.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_London#Ethnicity



* in this case asian is more india/pakistan/bangladesh than china/japan/korean. In north america when we hear asian white people mostly think of the yellow asians, not the brown asians. :downs:

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Maxwell Lord posted:

I was kinda down on Pilot for one kinda petty reason in that I'm getting a bit weary of the monster being just one of the characters but looking a little freakier. Like we had "watery zombies" in Waters of Mars and while the explanation and mechanisms were different the visual is similar. (The similarity to It Follows also doesn't help).

Like yeah it's a low budget show and "terror in the familiar" is something the show does, but it felt a bit too samey to make the best intro. It's a good intro for Bill but I was left thinking "okay now let's have a crazy mad adventure please."

They set it up that he had been good for 70 years guarding the vault and playing at being a professor so we'll know that what is in the vault is super important (even though no one cares). The way this episode is set up gives him an excuse to start playing a little fast and loose with guarding the vault, while not totally abandoning it. If he just goes off and does something because he is bored then Nardole will be super pissy.

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Jerusalem posted:

Which reminds me of another thing I meant to note - while Bill is active in trying to save lives, I don't think it ever occurred to her that they should also be using the explosives to free the creature. That it was the Doctor who came up with that solution does feel like a slight missed opportunity, in the same way it would have been nice if Bill had been the one to catch the Vardy were experiencing more complex emotions in Smile.

Bill being human-centric at this point makes perfect sense though. She's only human, and she acts like a human. The robots are malfunctioning industrial equipment that is killing people, the human thing to do is shut it down and then figure it out. The creature is a predator that has been eating people, and the human thing to do is kill any predator that has tasted human flesh.

Bill didn't grow up next to a crack in the universe, she didn't spend 2000 years as a plastic soldier, she isn't The Girl Who Saves The Doctor. She's just a normal human who has had a handful of exceptional experiences.

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Hemingway To Go! posted:

Of course Jamie Mathieson's episode is the only one that dials it totally to twelve


FTFY :grin:

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