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Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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That opening scene is like the deleted Hadley's Hope scenes from Aliens. It really doesn't need to be there and diminishes the impact of the protagonists discovering what's happened.

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Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Captain Fargle posted:

Another nice thing about this episode is it's underlying message that the British Empire was very explicitly a bad thing. The British Empire was poo poo. It was one of the worst things in human history. A shameless, staggering and utterly brutal exploitation of a full third of the planet. Far too much of Britain sanitises and glorifies it. A truly disgraceful number of us are still proud of it.


In fairness that's because no one gets taught the lovely bits, and the government systematically tried to destroy the evidence as part of Operation Legacy. I remember being at school in the 80s and remember geography lessons often having a significant "that was ours but we gave it back" component to them, as though we'd magnanimously decided the natives were finally ready to live like civilised people and we graciously handed them the keys and bowed out.

Of course with a bit more reading around the subject you quickly learn that "shoot the indigenous people, take their poo poo, split the country in half and gently caress off" isn't that magnanimous and is basically what we did as we travelled the world sticking flags in things.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Yvonmukluk posted:

I think Toxx makes a solid case for bringing Charlie Brooker onto the DW writing staff.

I don't know if Brooker can manage the optimism that Who really needs in order to keep it Who. He's good at what he does but what he does is relentlessly grim and miserable. I could see him rebooting Torchwood, maybe.

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