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why is this bitch rear end cloud flare always between me an my favorite websites?
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Jul 8, 2017 02:10
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because
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Jul 8, 2017 02:11
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Jul 8, 2017 02:12
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buttflare
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Jul 8, 2017 02:13
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the forums are down again . net
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Jul 8, 2017 02:14
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if cloudflare were any good they'd go out of their way not to call attention to themselves when poo poo breaks.
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Jul 8, 2017 02:14
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Sagebrush posted:buttflare saturday morning motherfuckers 
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Jul 8, 2017 02:16
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saturday afternoon bitches
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Jul 8, 2017 02:16
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akadajet posted:if cloudflare were any good they'd go out of their way not to call attention to themselves when poo poo breaks. lol one day i need to read up on ssl stuff and w/e it is and does. our hp windows server bugs our dam technicians everytime they remote desktop in to enter timesheets about some cert or something but idk im not a compouter toucher and  to fix it
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Jul 8, 2017 02:24
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its pretty good for the price honestly but I'd use Akamai for something serious
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Jul 8, 2017 02:39
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cloudflare said the forums broke and well, heck, i believe 'em
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Jul 8, 2017 02:45
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cloudflare's chief dc policy wonk is named mike nelson, makes you think
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Jul 8, 2017 04:06
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the fact that internal certificates are not just automatically renewed and deployed well before the expiry date is what's bullshit
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Jul 8, 2017 04:09
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I remember I was once getting an MSSQL server setup with encryption and the windows team were all like "yep, we'll host and manage the servers for you, but you gotta remember to keep the cert updated". bollocks to that though, we pushed back and got them to manage it themselves like they should've been doing all along.
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Jul 8, 2017 04:12
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pram posted:its pretty good for the price honestly but I'd use Akamai for something serious is that what eirka ran on then
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Jul 8, 2017 04:59
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no eirka used cloudflare too lol
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Jul 8, 2017 06:55
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i miss feeling like i was part of something
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Jul 8, 2017 07:53
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cloudflare is bad hth op
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Jul 8, 2017 11:33
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du -hast posted:cloudflare is bad hth op av checks out
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Jul 8, 2017 14:03
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i love when people talk about CDNs because they are my life
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Jul 8, 2017 20:25
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Xaris posted:our hp windows server bugs our dam technicians everytime they remote desktop in to enter timesheets the most enterprise workflow
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Jul 8, 2017 20:59
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Sniep posted:i love when people talk about CDNs because they are my life CDNs are cool & good
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Jul 8, 2017 20:59
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mishaq posted:CDNs are cool & good i work with most of them on a day to day basis ama
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Jul 8, 2017 21:24
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Sniep posted:i work with most of them on a day to day basis the physical infrastructure/network side?
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Jul 8, 2017 21:30
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mishaq posted:the physical infrastructure/network side? its bad next?
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Jul 8, 2017 21:32
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Sniep posted:its bad wots the worst outage uve ever seen
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Jul 8, 2017 21:33
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o if you meant do i work on the infra side then not anymore, i did quite a bit with the level 3 cdn (formerly sandpiper then savvis) but now im just a customer of most all of them
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Jul 8, 2017 21:34
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mishaq posted:wots the worst outage uve ever seen never really a full outage, since these networks are so diverse and distributed, but i've seen major issues with capacity planning and upper mgmt that expects 90+% utilization before they'll augment (not naming names but these models fail) -- but regardless of that, big utilization spikes from clients will degrade performance for others on a fairly normal basis... and it's pretty universal, even huge networks like akamai fall for this at times - it's one of the biggest challenges out there i think is how to properly segment and safekeep customer A's properties from customer B's utilization. hard as gently caress.
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Jul 8, 2017 21:37
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Sniep posted:(then savvis) glad you escaped before they fully went to hell Sniep posted:never really a full outage, since these networks are so diverse and distributed, but i've seen major issues with capacity planning and upper mgmt that expects 90+% utilization before they'll augment (not naming names but these models fail) -- but regardless of that, big utilization spikes from clients will degrade performance for others on a fairly normal basis... and it's pretty universal, even huge networks like akamai fall for this at times - it's one of the biggest challenges out there i think is how to properly segment and safekeep customer A's properties from customer B's utilization. hard as gently caress. im surprised there arent more aws us-east-1 s3-esque outages that take out half the web because everyone puts all their eggs in of the few major cdn players baskets
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Jul 8, 2017 21:40
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mishaq posted:glad you escaped before they fully went to hell mishaq posted:im surprised there arent more aws us-east-1 s3-esque outages that take out half the web because everyone puts all their eggs in of the few major cdn players baskets oh oh - on a per-customer basis? fuckin outages galore - i meant no network-wide outages to really report as far as individual property outages are concerned, a lot are S3 or other control channel outages taking properties offline as a gatekeeper (the S3/origin front end dies, no users can get to the content on CDN, == outage) -- but really human error is more common... i for one have taken down 3 letter .gov agencies' public facing poo poo before by typoing a single number wrong on a config - it happens. most per-property outages though are human error i'd say. you can extend this to poo poo like SSL certs expiring and nobody preempted it, or what have you again the big challenge isnt really outages since it's either not the CDN's responsibility or if it is, usually easily fixed the hard party and million dollar question is how to keep performance up, and keep it up consistently.
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Jul 8, 2017 21:56
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Sniep posted:i work with most of them on a day to day basis why do they break all of the time and show ads for their service instead of the webpage i'm trying to visit??
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Jul 8, 2017 22:04
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akadajet posted:why do they break all of the time and show ads for their service instead of the webpage i'm trying to visit?? awhat i've never encountered any ad injection on any major CDN before gimme an example
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Jul 8, 2017 22:05
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Sniep posted:awhat he means when lowtax breaks the forums and we get a cloudflare page
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Jul 8, 2017 22:16
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carry on then posted:he means when lowtax breaks the forums and we get a cloudflare page cloudflare is more than a cdn tho, the ddos mitigation puts them in directly between you and sa's servers
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Jul 8, 2017 22:23
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Sniep posted:eh, i never worked for savvis, i just used their poo poo after level3 bought them back in the day. They had a really awesome DNS server called ITM that I wish I had the source to as I'd use it personally today. It owned. what made it so good?
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Jul 8, 2017 22:23
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mishaq posted:cloudflare is more than a cdn tho, the ddos mitigation puts them in directly between you and sa's servers whoosh
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Jul 8, 2017 22:24
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carry on then posted:he means when lowtax breaks the forums and we get a cloudflare page yeah that's not their fault when the origin dies and it's dynamic (non-cacheable) content if it were me I'd not even keep cloudflare in the loop at all until the forums were getting ddos'd then flip DNS over to cloudflare to eat the attack reqs as needed
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Jul 8, 2017 22:32
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Sniep posted:if it were me I'd not even keep cloudflare in the loop at all until the forums were getting ddos'd then flip DNS over to cloudflare to eat the attack reqs as needed why wont the attacker just attack sa's IPs they were able to figure out ahead of time then instead of the url? isnt part of the point of always-on ddos mitigation to obfuscate the servers themselves permanently to prevent that?
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Jul 8, 2017 22:38
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mishaq posted:why wont the attacker just attack sa's IPs they were able to figure out ahead of time then instead of the url? isnt part of the point of always-on ddos mitigation to obfuscate the servers themselves permanently to prevent that? a problem more cheaply solved for with a varnish or nginx proxy in front of the sa origins with separate addressing vs paying cloudflare rates but *shrugs* idk I don't like the concept of always on proxy services for non critical things but I'm also cheap
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Jul 8, 2017 22:40
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carry on then posted:he means when lowtax breaks the forums and we get a cloudflare page ya. i'd never know cloudflare existed if they didn't keep showing their poo poo to me when stuff breaks
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