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ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose

Scionix posted:

me chinese
me play joke
me put pee-pee in man-folk

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


deadgoon posted:

"the white man made the people homophobic" is pretty much the same as "the jews made the people gay"

Except the former is well documented and the latter is impossible hth

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose
White people invented being gay so it all balances out

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
White people invented furries though.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


do transformers even have genders? i bet they're all hermaphroditic like snails and whoever shoots who first is the boy

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Condiv posted:

do transformers even have genders? i bet they're all hermaphroditic like snails and whoever shoots who first is the boy

Transformers definitely have genders.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Transformers definitely have genders.



:thunk:

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
where do the pictures of dragons loving cars fall on this scale, china

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


*Virgil Texas voice*

Uhh WHILE THERE MAY BE GENDERS DISPLAYED BY TRANSFORMERS, THE THE TRANSFORMERS HAVE NO SEX AS THEY DO NOT REPRODUCE SEXUALLY, THEREFORE THERE CAN BE NO FEMALE TRANSFORMERS BUT THERE ARE TRANSFORMER WOMEN

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

It's 'transformer people' not 'transformers'.

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
so back in the 80s hasbro licensed a couple japanese transforming robot toy lines to sell in america

and they got marvel to write a bunch of fiction about them that would function as advertisements for the toys

and some of the writers wanted to make some of the toys women but hasbro was like "nah little boys will never buy that poo poo"

in 2005 one of the writers, simon furman, got hired by IDW to do a rebooted transformers comic series

and he continued the "no women robots"* thing because TRADITION and also because he seems like an rear end in a top hat

IDW went through several writers after that but they all stuck to the precious continuity

in 2012 they got a writer who wanted to be able to write love stories and poo poo

but there were no girls*

so he was like "yeah whatever gently caress it all the transformers are gay now"

*actually there was one exactly girl but she was the result of a mad scientist forcing her to undergo gender re-assignment and the whole thing turned her into a psychopath

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
in the more recent comics they found a bunch of ancient lost transformers colonies and they all have sexual dimorphism and there's some implication that all the female transformers on cybertron were murdered

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Relin posted:

hollywood will de kowtow to be one of the 31 films or w/e the limit is. at least in the big films; icant remembeer the last time a big budget film had a gay

Yep, at this point they aren't just saying "no one in China can be openly gay," they're also effectively saying "no one in big budget American movies can be openly gay"

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Inescapable Duck posted:

White people invented furries though.

I'm pretty sure that was Egyptians.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Clawtopsy posted:

where do the pictures of dragons loving cars fall on this scale, china

They're against any sex that's not for procreation, because China really needs a higher population.

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

nopantsjack posted:

Except the former is well documented and the latter is impossible hth

the idea that u need to purge urself of degenerate foreign influence and return to ur roots is fundamentally fascist regardless of whether or not u have actually been influenced by degenerate foreigners

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

Jeb! Repetition posted:

They're against any sex that's not for procreation, because China really needs a higher population.

china to pioneer 'not even abstinence' sex-ed

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


:discourse:

the homework explainer with a pretty good retort here

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

deadgoon posted:

so back in the 80s hasbro licensed a couple japanese transforming robot toy lines to sell in america

and they got marvel to write a bunch of fiction about them that would function as advertisements for the toys

and some of the writers wanted to make some of the toys women but hasbro was like "nah little boys will never buy that poo poo"

in 2005 one of the writers, simon furman, got hired by IDW to do a rebooted transformers comic series

and he continued the "no women robots"* thing because TRADITION and also because he seems like an rear end in a top hat

IDW went through several writers after that but they all stuck to the precious continuity

in 2012 they got a writer who wanted to be able to write love stories and poo poo

but there were no girls*

so he was like "yeah whatever gently caress it all the transformers are gay now"

*actually there was one exactly girl but she was the result of a mad scientist forcing her to undergo gender re-assignment and the whole thing turned her into a psychopath

You and everyone who cares about this stuff should be sent to a Cambodian farm

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Plutonis posted:

You and everyone who cares about this stuff should be sent to a Cambodian farm

im sorry that some people care about LITERATURE

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
i luv toy commercial yaoi and i dont care who knows it

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
also megatron led a labor revolt and became robot stalin

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment

Megatron slay queen

Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth

deadgoon posted:

also megatron led a labor revolt and became robot stalin

does that make starscream beria?

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

too bad, Xi. "comrade" has already been coopted by the Chinese LGBT community

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Mycroft Holmes posted:

does that make starscream beria?

the autobots were the military/police force of the cybertronian state. megatron led a revolt against the state, optimus prime was allied with him for a time but eventually led a counter-revolt. a good portion of the civilian population fled the planet. there's a four million year civil war which destroyed the planet and led the cybertronian race to near extinction. then some poo poo happens and the autobots sort of win and cybertron is restored to a primordial wilderness. the civilian refugees return and tell the autobots to gently caress off. starscream becomes president of post-faction cybetron.

this is beria:

deadgoon has issued a correction as of 00:35 on Jul 12, 2017

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

deadgoon posted:

the idea that u need to purge urself of degenerate foreign influence and return to ur roots is fundamentally fascist regardless of whether or not u have actually been influenced by degenerate foreigners

hey, blood and soil are important things

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown
he's not going far enough, all anime is degenerate

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Mycroft Holmes posted:

does that make starscream beria?

My vote's on Huma

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
All this gets extra silly given Transformers is routinely rebooted all the time and rarely bothers to maintain consistency even within a particular incarnation. With the original show probably being the least consistent of all.

Also, isn't there a giant Optimus Prime status somewhere in China?

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

*Virgil Texas voice*

Uhh WHILE THERE MAY BE GENDERS DISPLAYED BY TRANSFORMERS, THE THE TRANSFORMERS HAVE NO SEX AS THEY DO NOT REPRODUCE SEXUALLY, THEREFORE THERE CAN BE NO FEMALE TRANSFORMERS BUT THERE ARE TRANSFORMER WOMEN

don't make me post transformers porn

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


Although Starscream may be pounded in the rear end by robocock until he ejaculates lubricant all over himself, unless those genitals serve a reproductive function they still lack sex, and are rather the gender expressions of their designs as Transformers which - AS ESTABLISHED BY CANON - can be transitioned at any time through purely mechanical means
:goonsay:

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
i think the mad scientist turned arcee into a girl because he wanted the boy robots to gently caress her and make robot babies, and this is backed up by the fact that his boss nova prime was looking for ways to expand the transformer population so he could have a large enough army conquer the galaxy, and because in several transformers stories cybertron's current ecosystem evolved from an organic one and there "used to be more transformers like arcee"

in the marvel transformers comics it's established that the transformers have collective amnesia about how they originally reproduced

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
it's a children's comicbook that has to fit the sensibilities of the parents of said kid, that's it

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

rudatron posted:

it's a children's comicbook that has to fit the sensibilities of the parents of said kid, that's it

that was true in the 80s but the audience for the contemporary comic is an odd combination of middle-aged turbonerd nostalgists and the young tumblr side of the fandom that draws tons and tons of yaoi about the robots

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


deadgoon posted:

i think the mad scientist turned arcee into a girl because he wanted the boy robots to gently caress her and make robot babies, and this is backed up by the fact that his boss nova prime was looking for ways to expand the transformer population so he could have a large enough army conquer the galaxy, and because in several transformers stories cybertron's current ecosystem evolved from an organic one and there "used to be more transformers like arcee"

in the marvel transformers comics it's established that the transformers have collective amnesia about how they originally reproduced

is there a transformers version of the handmaiden's tale

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

deadgoon posted:

that was true in the 80s but the audience for the contemporary comic is an odd combination of middle-aged turbonerd nostalgists and the young tumblr side of the fandom that draws tons and tons of yaoi about the robots

:yikes:

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Basically, how Transformers actually reproduce is different in every single incarnation, and often each one has two or three entirely different means of doing so. Sometimes they're literally built and mass-produced in factories, sometimes they're cloned and grown in vats, sometimes they spring to life spontaneously when a plot device touches any random junk. (Literally) Any random poo poo you come up with is probably true somewhere, though they usually find human reproduction really weird. Also means you have some that are literally born yesterday alongside others who are casually references as being older than the human species.

Funny thing, Steven Universe does about the same thing except with the aliens being strictly all-female, with the only male being a hybrid whose creation involved the effective death of his mother.


deadgoon posted:

that was true in the 80s but the audience for the contemporary comic is an odd combination of middle-aged turbonerd nostalgists and the young tumblr side of the fandom that draws tons and tons of yaoi about the robots

This is true for all comics. About half the industry still pretends they have a reason to be child-friendly even though children do not know that comics exist. It's a more niche market than Warhammer.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

IMO it's kind of cool that a comic for kids has Megatron doing Maoist poetry.

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