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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:P.S. Hi Davin! REFEREE, EJECT THIS MAN FROM THE TOURNAMENT HALL also hi Herp-derp. Also we should probably wait until they actually move before we start speculating on the proper counterattack.
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Herp, your plan would send the queen gallivanting around the center while the knights and bishops stay stuck behind our pawns. Unacceptable. Pawn to e5.
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Jul 11, 2017 15:29
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Fellas, what'd I just say? Your definition of unity seems to be "everybody do exactly as I say."
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Jul 11, 2017 15:44
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Herp is a huge moron. I know--he cost me Leningrad once. Ignore him.
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Jul 11, 2017 19:04
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:You rolled a 1, and we literally needed anything but a 1! If the dice weren't against us that would've ended in victory and you know it. BEFORE that, you dunce. Anyway, nobody make formal proposals until White moves. Chess is a slow game.
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Jul 11, 2017 19:07
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Forget the queen. Let's take the opportunity to break out a knight. Knight to F6 threatens the pawn and develops a piece. If he moves the pawn forward, we take with one of our other pawns. Maybe the queen's bishop pawn to push up the center?
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Jul 11, 2017 23:31
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chitoryu12 posted:What the hell is Qxd5 Queen [Q] captures [x] as it moves to d5.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:38
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oldskool posted:
Seriously, Herp, in the words of today, check yourself before you wreck yourself. WRT White Bishop to B5, check, would the strongest counter be Bishop to D7? If they take the bishop, we can develop the other knight in the exchange.
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Jul 12, 2017 15:37
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The one caveat to Bg4 is that it fixes our knight in place, since otherwise the white queen can go out and eat the bishop. Besides that it does sound like a decent move.
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Jul 13, 2017 16:54
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BioEnchanted posted:A thought - If white take our bishop with their queen in the next turn, would that be a good time to get our queen moving as well? Wait until both pieces are equally exposed to avoid the "chasing her around the board like an idiot" dilemma? If they do that, we take their queen with our knight.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:48
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:oh poo poo actually I just talked myself into this one, that position looks fun as heck let's do it Edit: Vote changed. Davin Valkri fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Jul 14, 2017 |
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Jul 14, 2017 15:40
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:dude all they have in the center are pawns This is proof that you know nothing about chess. Pawns are investments. Not weak. Also, nice piece of fish, that's not a bad case for C6, but it kind of leaves the queen side pawn structure in ruins, and thus would make a queen's side castle a very poor move.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:39
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:The polls are close, but neither party occupies a majority in the commons. Vote now for a strong and stable Nbd6 or suffer a coalition of chaos under C6. Pawn to C6, because I dislike you.
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Jul 14, 2017 21:07
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:I can feel their panic from here. We have this. Herp-derp, shut up. Just shut up, right now.
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Jul 15, 2017 18:45
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Nxc6 to avoid an embarrassing early checkmate!
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Jul 16, 2017 01:32
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Talow posted:Through check? so what, like if a rook was threatening the space right next to the king, you can't castle past it? Correct. Which is why I was concerned about the pawn structure earlier.
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Jul 17, 2017 04:41
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Didn't someone suggest Qd7 earlier? That makes some sense to me, since after the castle we get a bit of Alekhine's Gun action right down the middle.
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Jul 17, 2017 15:43
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Paul.Power posted:I'm feeling Qd7 now for a move into a queenside castle that should automatically gets our rook directly behind the queen. It's not the most aggressive play right now, but it should lead to a strong position down the line. Still don't want to vote just yet though. Oh, drat, that's a good point. 6. ... Qd7 7. Ne5 would lead to our queen getting eaten no matter what. Would Qc7 or Qb6 be viable?
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Jul 17, 2017 18:47
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So the plan is to break up White's control of the center a bit at the cost of delaying the castling a move? Actually, let me think on this more. That kinda leaves our kingside totally empty... Davin Valkri fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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Jul 17, 2017 20:20
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Actually, come to think of it, may I formally propose Qb6? I imagine a kings-side castle looks rather less inviting when a queen is threatening to get all up in your business there. And if we can clear the pawn on d4 and get something to threaten f2, it becomes a mating threat.
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Jul 17, 2017 20:49
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:
...white would play 8. Bxc6+ xc6 9. Bf4 and now our queenside castle plan is totally fragged. Herp. You are a dolt. Nobody should listen to you when it comes to moves.
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Jul 17, 2017 21:08
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Besides, that assumes that they don't do 8. Bd2, because the knight that would be guarding the queen is pinned! Moron!
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Jul 17, 2017 21:13
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7. ... Qxd4 8. c3 would absolutely murder our tempo. I still think Qb6 is stronger.
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Jul 19, 2017 14:06
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Paul.Power posted:I like Qd7 myself. Happy to be convinced otherwise, though. 7. ... Qd5 8. c4 Qe4+ 9. Qxe4 Nxe4, perhaps? I'm more worried about white playing Qa3, since that would be a death sentence for our Queenside castle, or even 8. Qxc6+ xc6 9. Bxc6+, which would also ruin everything.
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Jul 19, 2017 15:38
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I'm convinced. Qd7.
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Jul 19, 2017 17:19
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E6, and for the love of God put a muzzle on Herp Derp.
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Jul 20, 2017 15:03
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:We are under attack. The enemy is at our gates. Our own hope is to strike the enemy before they strike us, lest we be defeated by those conniving White Team members. Qxd4 will be the blow to rout the enemy force, to show them we mean business. And that is what we mean: business. 9. ... Qxd4 10. Bxc6+ xc6 11. Qxc6+ and we're done. Do NOT vote Qxd4!
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Jul 24, 2017 15:48
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Nice piece of fish posted:We've got a couple of things we can do now. Nb4 threatens the knight they obviously plan to let loose and opens up our king's side castle, which given that white's offensive is queenside seems a good idea at the moment. Just to confirm, is this Bb4? Nb4 gives them the queen for a bishop. Also wrt Nice piece of fish posted:Yes, like we're not wise to the fact that Herp is trying to make us lose. I figure an active and immediate refutation is good practice. Let no one think we're shutting him down without good reason. Davin Valkri fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Jul 24, 2017 |
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Jul 24, 2017 16:00
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What do you all make of Pawn to e5? The way I see it, if they take the pawn that opens the d file, and if they don't, we can take it and open up possibilities for an attack along the h2-b8 diagonal?
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Jul 26, 2017 15:06
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Nice piece of fish posted:Well, that's pretty defensive. I guess white is worried about d corridor after all. The Queen to h2 attack is what I was thinking of when I proposed pawn to e5. I'm good with either h5 or Qc7.
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Jul 26, 2017 16:44
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oldskool posted:If we Qc7, what's our counter to Bf4? It looks like our choices are either run away & concede the center, or Bd6 and block our queen in yet again. I think the hard counter to that would be Nxd4, threatening their queen (and their other bishop!) as well.
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Jul 26, 2017 19:07
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We should probably wait until they move before we start speculating on our next move. If they move out the rook on c1, for example, then setting up an Qh2 attack may win a rook (depending on what else they do), but it won't win the game.
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Jul 28, 2017 21:53
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I'd rather continue with our kingside attack, tbh, if only to contain their queen and even drive their king back towards the d file and our rook. Davin Valkri fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Jul 29, 2017 |
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Jul 29, 2017 02:39
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Nice piece of fish posted:Wait, no! White is poised to break through on d if we don't play this right. We need to loving get rid of that pawn on d4 NOW, and we don't have enough supporting poo poo to do it. We have to go e5 and loving hope white bites, because if white goes d5 we are in serious trouble. Thing is, they still need Nc3, which makes us able to turn the tables still. Could you clarify what the threat of white playing 12. d5 is? Seems like that would allow us to play 12. ... Ne5 and push their queen around and/or take their rook with our own.
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Jul 29, 2017 08:16
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Ah, I see. And you know, I liked this move earlier. Changing vote to e5.
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Jul 29, 2017 16:14
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Snorb posted:If I were White, I'd go Qf5+. That'd gently caress our day up real quick-- either we move that rook and put it in immediate danger, or we move our king out of harm's way. Either way, that jacks up our future planning. Not really? The b file looks open, but absolutely nothing on White's side is in position to exploit it.
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Aug 2, 2017 02:06
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chitoryu12 posted:How about H6? Start opening an avenue for our rook if necessary. The f6 knight would guard a pawn on e4, so that's not really necessary. I'd say either e4, h5, or moving the bishop somewhere so we can bring our other rook into the dance.
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Aug 2, 2017 19:58
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chitoryu12 posted:If we move our pawn to E4 and the queen takes it, our knight can take the queen from that position. The worst they can do is move her one square over to put us in check, which takes one move of the king to take us out of. Any other moves would put their queen in danger or let us start developing that side of the board. Fish is calling out the knight on c4 as taking that pawn.
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Aug 2, 2017 20:24
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poo poo, I just realized that our Queen is blocked in by the e5 pawn. Hubris that we thought they would take first! Would xd4 be a stronger move?
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Aug 3, 2017 01:35
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Quick question before I vote: what's the next step if they don't move their bishop but instead initiate the exchange (15. Rxd8) or try to do something to force us to block up the d file again (15. Nd5 xd5 16. xd5)?
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