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i don't have the energy to add in all the žižek lisps, so you'll have to insert those yourself: fiction only has the potential to be revolutionary if it is engaged with the lived conditions of real people, even aspirationally. there is a reason that soviet realism was the official artistic and literary style of the soviet union. by retreating to fantasy worlds, we cede control over affecting the existing order, and so act to reinforce it (c.f. adam curtis' "hypernormalisation"). escapism necessitates a retreat from these conditions, and so, paradoxically, is the most beholden to them. marx claimed that "the hand-mill gives you society with the feudal lord; the steam-mill society with the industrial capitalist" so too, are the works of verne and gibson indebted to the material conditions at the time of their creation. gibson himself acknowledges this with his short story "the gernsback continuum," which deals explicitly with the combination of nostalgia and second-hand naïveté when we reflect on science fiction written even a decade or two older than our own.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Don't know about lisps but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIWUMkKZhus
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i don't know what the onomatopoeia is for "a sharp intake of breath followed by a long, almost impossibly long guttural scream," but that is the sound i am making, now, because of the posts.
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me: i like to experience beautiful things made by people you, a genius: but some of those things might not even be objectively true me: i am defeated
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Hate Fibration posted:You didn't claim that. I'm not talking to you. Your posts are just what you think. Which isn't exactly very compelling.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I am still struggling to comprehend the level of intellectual, emotional, and spiritual emptiness it takes to reduce all art to utilitarian entertainment their actual argument was missing a few premises in the original post but i think it is supposed to be something like "people say to read lit rather than genre because it's supposed to reveal truths about the human condition + it's aesthetically better, but if i want truth, why not just read non-fiction? and 'aesthetics' seems pretty hard to quantify, so..." so it's still very stupid, but not quite "why do these hu-mans make 'art,' it does not further their species, beep boop" Tree Goat fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jul 24, 2017 |
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Jul 24, 2017 16:25
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Liquid Communism posted:Craft does matter, but then we are also in need of a better definition of 'genre' beyond pretentious snobbery still based in the era of pulps. it's a normative category based on a combination of its content and its marketing, hth. not all books with spaceships in them are genre fiction, but all books with spaceships on the cover are genre fiction.
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Liquid Communism posted:So your contention is that it has nothing to do with quality, but rather is simply marketing choices? fast food and michelin star restaurants are also normative marketing distinctions, but that doesn't mean that there are no distinctions in quality, just that there are no intrinsic distinctions
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