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financially racist posted:speaking as someone who has battled severe depression and at times been suicidal, the lyrics to crawling were mockable because they sounded fake to me. like an adult trying to approximate awkward teen poetry or something. also depression to me sounds more like the cure's pornography, not loud power chords with screaming. Even as an angsty teenager I never got linkin park. It's something about how slick and polished they are that doesn't sit well with the tortured lyrics that makes them read as artificial. Like, NIN are equally melodramatic, but match it well with harsh sonics. Deftones are slick and polished, but lyrically more stream of consciousness than heart on sleeve pain.
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Volkerball posted:Slick and polished seems a weird descriptor when Chester had one of the most intense voices I've ever heard. Nah man. Linkin Parks sound was based around their use of synthy hip hop drums and effects in metal. plus the stripped down guitar that typifies that era (no bends, no solos, no fuzz just a wall of dry tight mesa boogie power chords). Chester screams, but it's usually an even, controlled melodic yell, rather than a punk rock yowl or what have you. Songs are all verse chorus pop format, not many extended instrumentals or jams. Also there's the deliberate attempt to invoke a sense of artificiality through the insertion of audio "glitch" effects and the like. Linkin Park sound very, very polished.
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As superrodan points out, a 30 second long stunt scream where Chester smoothly changes pitch as it moves into a new measure makes it the perfect example of what I'm talking about. I'm not saying tightness or polish is inherently bad, it's clearly a stylistic choice. But it kind of defines linkin parks approach to heavy music and is part of why a lot of people didn't dig them. That said, a lot of the 2010 wave of Djent bands probably carry around a linkin park influence as much as they do meshuggah. massive spider fucked around with this message at 11:14 on Jul 31, 2017 |
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Volkerball posted:Can you point out an example of something within the scope of this thread that you consider unpolished? Within the scope of nu-metal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhaZZNS2GqM
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The Muppets On PCP posted:i think contrived is the word people are looking for instead of polished I dunno thats not exactly what I mean. I mean linkin parks music has a strong emphasis on synthetic machine like precision and in conjunction with the angsty lyrics that can make the angst sound a little false and contrived. I get the sense that what they're going for is the whole, "cold electronic sounds as a metaphor for bleakness and melencholy" thing. But the pop and hip hop influences are too strong to really sell the lyrical trauma. I find nu metal interesting because hip hop mixed with metal doesn't sound like fundamentally a horrible experiment in theory and yet it became known as one.
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The thread title reminds me that while we're all confessing that we secretly kinda enjoy nu metal there remains not a single band labelled "post grunge" that I would ever voluntarily listen to.
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"eat you alive" is probably one of the dumbest songs ever written in that respect: Hey you, Mrs. I-Don't-Know-What-The-gently caress-Your-Name-Is I'm drawn to you; something's magnetic here If I could approach you or even get close to the scent That you left behind, I'd be fine No doubt now (No doubt) You bring out (Bring out) The animal inside [Hook] I'd eat you alive! I'd eat you alive I'd eat you alive! I'd eat you alive [Verse 2] Hey you, Mrs. Too-Good-To-Look-My-Way and that's cool You want nothing at all to do with me But I want you, ain't nothing wrong with wantin' you Cause I'm a man and I can think what the hell I want You got that straight? No doubt now (No doubt) I'd love to (I'd love) Sniff on them panties now [Hook] I'd eat you alive! I'd eat you alive I'd eat you alive! I'd eat you alive [Middle Eight] I'm sorry, so sorry (drat, you're so hot!) Your beauty is so vain (drat, you're so hot!) It drives me, yes, it drives me (drat, you're so hot!) Absolutely insane [Bridge] I just want to look at you (Look at you, look at you, look at you) I just want to look at you (Look at you, look at you, look at you) I just want to look at you all day There ain't nothing wrong, no There ain't nothing wrong with that (Wrong with that, wrong with that) Once you seep in (Once you seep in) Under my skin (Under my skin) There's nothing (Nothing), there's nothing (Nothing) In this world that could wash you away (Wash you away) Once you seep in (Once you seep in) Under my skin (Under my skin) There's nothing (Nothing), there's nothing (Nothing) In this world that could wash you away (Wash you away) [Middle Eight (refrain)] I'm sorry, so sorry (drat, you're so hot!) Your beauty is so vain (drat, you're so hot!) It drives me, yes, it drives me (drat, you're so hot!) Absolutely insane massive spider fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Jan 16, 2018 |
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Yeah every time you see a thing that says "this article was written by an AI" the small print is "and edited by a human (from however many attempted AI gen instances)" at which point it's more like a poem consciously arranged using cut up pieces of other poems.
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Madkal posted:I love Saturday Night Wrist but the band kind of hate that album. Gore had some slappers but found the album a bit uneven. I remember hearing that there was a tonne of band drama recording that one, fuelled in part by Chino procrastinating on actually turning up and writing his parts. There was an interview with Chi Cheng where he goes "on *Hole in the Earth* when he turns up and sings "I hate all my friends" he means us. I was like "hell he could be singing 'I hate Chi Cheng' for all I care, as long as he's singing'" The Serj Tankian guest spot reputedly came about from the label giving demos to Serj to work on to try and inspire/shame chino into working on his vox. Every interview or BTS I've ever read about the (surviving) Deftones members makes them sound like massive pricks tbh. Journalists in particular seem to have this habit of subtly slipping in a detail that suggests they were awful to sit down with e.g: one that goes off script to mention them cheating on their girlfriends on tour. Another that goes out of its way to mention that it was a complete pain to get them to pose for a magazine photo in front of an antenna because of Stef being a conspiracy theorist about radio waves melting his brain and adding "saying that despite the copious amount of weed he was smoking". Every interview that mentions that Stef was clearly baked out of his mind and monosyllabic throughout. Stef constantly talking poo poo about Chinos guitar playing ability and guitar tone. Segio Vega apparently asking to be made a full member and being dumped without ceremony. Stef being an anti vaxxer and Chino, to his credit saying "yeah love the guy but he's a compete moron". massive spider fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Aug 15, 2023 |
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