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Not to mention doors with blue flame and also Lafcadio's personal feelings. I mean, it's pretty obvious every death he witnesses hurts him.
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Grayson's got this whole "Man in the Iron Mask" thing going on. That pocketwatch sure is prominent, in both his main portrait and those development sketches. Maybe he was an early design for the clockmaker character that got repurposed? Redd's mask looks kinda like Disney's Beast. I gotta wonder why he and Clay are victims. They're both casino employees and they're both in love with someone who designed part of the mansion. Is there something that separates them from the skull-mask playing-card servants? Is that why they have to die?
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Jul 26, 2017 06:19
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I have a feeling that there's some grand design going on, and the Marquis is enacting twisted justice for a number of terrible crimes, a la 12 Little Indians or something. Or perhaps each hurt him in a different way. Perhaps it has to do with his wife.
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Jul 26, 2017 06:45
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IMJack posted:Redd's mask looks kinda like Disney's Beast. I gotta wonder why he and Clay are victims. They're both casino employees and they're both in love with someone who designed part of the mansion. Is there something that separates them from the skull-mask playing-card servants? Is that why they have to die? I think from Clay's bio, it sounds like maybe he did some dubious things while on the job. Things that his brute physique was useful for. No idea what Redd's deal is though. I hope we get to get more conversations with ghosts. There seems to be so many ghostly blue flames around the casino. This place needs to call some ghostbusters already.
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Jul 26, 2017 06:45
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IMJack posted:Redd's mask looks kinda like Disney's Beast. I gotta wonder why he and Clay are victims. They're both casino employees and they're both in love with someone who designed part of the mansion. Is there something that separates them from the skull-mask playing-card servants? Is that why they have to die? The thing is neither of them are Employees right now, they're just friends of the Marquis. Redd in particular is helping Greyson Grayson steal a priceless artifact. I do appreciate that the game doesn't outright say it anywhere but Redd is in love with Greyson. Also Clay basically beat up cheaters after they left instead of throwing them out immediately when he was head of security. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Jul 26, 2017 |
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Lazy Bear posted:I have a feeling that there's some grand design going on, and the Marquis is enacting twisted justice for a number of terrible crimes, a la 12 Little Indians or something. Or perhaps each hurt him in a different way. Perhaps it has to do with his wife. I'm going with the Lovecraftian interpretation of this and saying that the killings are all a giant ritual to resurrect his wife or something like that.
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Jul 26, 2017 15:27
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Based on Tequila's lore card combined with Boone playing for her, and possibly even the connection of "Lafcadio played cards pretty well" with "the servants are all playing-card-themed" (although that could easily just be due to the casino aspect) I suspect that "Lafcadio" Boone is actually Lucas Boone, the Marquis. Some sort of lingering mask magic from his is preventing the freed victims from recognising him as the owner of the place. His attempt to contact/bring peace to/resurrect his wife let in the gold-masked entity, and the game becomes his penance as he tries to undo the damage he has caused to his friends. EDIT: I forgot to mention, great LP Scruffy! I hadn't heard of this one before, and although it's definitely right up my street I would definitely be disappointed by most of this so far. It's very pretty and a nice house of cards (pun not originally intended but I'll take it), but the fact that you only ever need to do basically one thing to stop each murder, Willow being the only exception so far, is a shame. Half the fun of a time travel game is that as you fix one thing, another problem pops up in its place; The Sexy Brutale is rather shallow by that measure. On top of that, if you don't beat the game by solving all the murders in one super run either then that's another trick they've missed; sure, they might have a nice plot-themed reason why you don't have to in the end, but games are kinda supposed to be GAMES first, and they could certainly have tweaked all the timings so that you have just enough time to save everyone in one go. Thanks to the simplistic solutions, there's not even that many moving pieces right now: - place the blank in the rifle - switch the camera and turn it on - douse the candle (definitely trickier since you need to feed the charm twice first) - trick the pianist - and turn the switch. There's only two more solutions to discover, so it definitely feels like they could have switched up the timings of the murders a bit to make a one-run possible. WFGuy fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Jul 26, 2017 |
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WFGuy posted:On top of that, if you don't beat the game by solving all the murders in one super run either then that's another trick they've missed; sure, they might have a nice plot-themed reason why you don't have to in the end, but games are kinda supposed to be GAMES first, and they could certainly have tweaked all the timings so that you have just enough time to save everyone in one go. Thanks to the simplistic solutions, there's not even that many moving pieces right now: If I recall right from one of the videos, really loud noises (like records being played) stop Lafcadio from being able to utilize Trinity's power. If there is a way to save everyone it might involve setting up a record to play within earshot of Trinity. That way Trinity never hears the passcode to the door so she can't get trapped inside the same room as the giant spider. Instead, Trinity heads back to where Clay is and she manages to convince him to stop drinking before he gets to the spiked shot of liquor. I think that requires less legwork on Lafcadio's part too, leaving him more time for the other guests.
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Jul 28, 2017 01:24
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Interested in following the LP more especially if you're planning on 100%+ it; the completion % I don't think accounts for any entry in the Secretes part of the journal, and even though I finished the game and got one of the optional things to boot, never got any entry in that part of the journal. With full unlocks for everything else.
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Jul 29, 2017 18:00
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Sorry for the delay, I got a little busy. And this one took a bit of work. Aurum Runes, the Midas Giant and Thanos Gorecki, the Blueprint Prince/Polsy
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Jul 30, 2017 15:31
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Hm seems some of the staff at least were having second thoughts about all this.
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Jul 30, 2017 16:27
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the library ghost who just wants some poon is both a piece of poo poo and awesome as heck
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Jul 30, 2017 17:25
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So Lafcadio isn't Lucas, or at least isn't recognized as him. What could be down here? I would guess wither Lucas's corpse or Meatwoman's.
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Jul 30, 2017 18:00
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So, did the woman in the garden house look familiar to anyone? Because she looked familiar to me.
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Jul 30, 2017 20:44
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Also for anyone interested in picking this game up for themselves, it's currently the Steam Daily Deal for half off.
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Lazy Bear posted:So, did the woman in the garden house look familiar to anyone? Because she looked familiar to me. First thing I thought when I saw her was "flayed woman, is that you?" I would wager that she is the Marquis' wife. at the very least. Also, the only person without a mask on so far. interesting thing. And pregnant as gently caress. rocking a crib. ... Oh dear.
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Jul 30, 2017 23:05
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Zebrin posted:First thing I thought when I saw her was "flayed woman, is that you?" Yeah, that's basically about the size of what I was thinking when I saw her.
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Jul 30, 2017 23:13
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The heart and teardrop locks seem kind of odd. Aren't we... out of unique masks? Just the one more? Though things don't seem as simple as just saving one more person.
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Jul 31, 2017 04:45
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Glazius posted:The heart and teardrop locks seem kind of odd. Aren't we... out of unique masks? Just the one more? We're out of new powers to get. I suspect that the new mask will offer insights.
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Jul 31, 2017 05:18
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Well, we haven't found the Marquis yet, and about the only event yet unexplained is the crashing sound about around 4 to 4:15. Perhaps this is being played straight, and we really *are* Boone, out to save the Marquis?
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The second post has updated with room and tool descriptions, and this: ... is kind of alarming. berryjon posted:Well, we haven't found the Marquis yet, and about the only event yet unexplained is the crashing sound about around 4 to 4:15. That's my current thought. Perhaps Lucas is the "last" victim, whether or not he planned to die as part of whatever this plot is. Once he reveals what his intentions are and gives Boone his best "but you can't save everyone!", then we'll have the big scramble to save all the guests in one go leading to the big confrontation in the bar. I'm curious if there are any ghosts hanging out in the Casino and the Chapel. Maybe one possesses the blackjack-dealing robot to try and warn Clay.
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So I've been doing the math on trying to save all the guests at once, and yeah, it just doesn't seem possible with travel time. Best I can come up with: Start in the chapel: the blank is available at 1:35. The gun becomes available at 1:55, and must be altered by 2:30. Next, head to the music area. The murderer there will leave to check on the record at 2:15 - you've got to grab the record, put it in the closet, and then be ready to grab the key and lock him in. Now you've got to book it to complete the Hungry Charm and be in the secret room. The candle becomes available at 3:30 and MUST be put out by 4:30. Then - downstairs. You can get the CCTV switched over any time between 4:10 and 10:25, but this is a good time since you're down there. The VIP statue can be changed after 3:05. Then it's down to grab the broken arm and switch that statue. Next, run to the theatre. You've got some time here, but you need to turn on the breaker and then be at the second switch between 8:40 and 9:50. After that, back down to the stairway area - you can flip the last statue any time after 8:50, but it must be completed before 10:35. It's that opening section that's the trouble. I don't think it's possible to get Tequila's sequence done in time to complete the Hungry Charm, unless putting out the candle after Willow is hypnotized and leaves works. You could try doing the Hungry Charm first, but that wouldn't leave enough time to get down to the chapel to save Reggie.
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I guess Lafcadio is a priest? Would make sense with all the cross gestures he does, and wearing a robe as well. Supposedly Lucas could turn to Lafcadio for salvation, but Blood Lady is dubious about us really being 'Lafcadio'. Hmm... this is a long shot, but maybe the person we're playing is actually a conman who tried to get everyone's trust so he could eventually pull off a big heist.
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Jul 31, 2017 17:10
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Autumn should have kept his mask. That hat/metal combo makes him look like a dapper robot type.
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So we've got an idea of who the Bloody Woman is but no real explanation for the bloody rain that starts pouring down inside the mansion before the day resets. At first I thought spooky poo poo involving the Juju Guppy was behind what is going on but it feels like Willow's story is tangential or deliberate misdirection and Thanos has been picking up on what is going on more closely than anyone else so far, but once the mask was off he never bothered to go inside the passage Lafcadio safely opened. I think the fish... was a red herring 
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Tempest_56 posted:So I've been doing the math on trying to save all the guests at once, and yeah, it just doesn't seem possible with travel time. Best I can come up with: No, once Willow leaves she's locked into her death. Moreover, the pipe will only pour out the water to put out the lit candle during her attempted takeover. She, Sixpence, and Redd/Grayson have the strictest timing for saving.
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Tempest_56 posted:So I've been doing the math on trying to save all the guests at once, and yeah, it just doesn't seem possible with travel time. Best I can come up with: The solution likely involves the transport mirrors the servants use, and whatever architectural secrets Thanos's mask reveals. In theory, since Tequila's body being dumped is what causes Trinity to panic and get caught in the spider web, saving Tequila would save Trinity. In practice you probably want Clay to leave the blackjack table to get Trinity anyway, so you can get rid of that poisoned drink that's left sitting there. That would be a King's-Quest-esque dick move, having that drink screw up your save-everyone run at the 11th hour.
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Broken Box posted:I think the fish... was a red herring But it's from the Caribbean, not Russia.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:No, once Willow leaves she's locked into her death. Moreover, the pipe will only pour out the water to put out the lit candle during her attempted takeover. Yeah, that's what I thought. It seems impossible then - I forgot to account for the time it takes 7 of Clubs to walk to the closet. Unless you can get him to move before the cue that Scruffy showed off, you can't complete that portion until 2:45. So to complete the Charm you've got to either 1) complete it in the roughly 1:30 between the two events, which would involve running across the room mid-conversation or 2) doing it in the same time before the gun in the chapel, which would probably be harder since it's more travel time.
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I have a strong suspicion that there's gonna be some Deus Ex Machina involved.
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Lazy Bear posted:I have a strong suspicion that there's gonna be some Deus Ex Machina involved. With all the mechanisms in this mansion and traveling via the clocks, I'd say Deus Est Machina is more likely. E: poking around I think it's supposed to be "Deus Machina Est"? Look, I know French, not Latin.
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Jul 31, 2017 21:56
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If you're trying to go for the particular phrasing of "the god must be a machine", much in the same manner as "Carthago delenda est" (Carthage must be destroyed), then yeah, you need to use the passive periphrastic. Although for that to work, you'd need at least another verb there to pair with the conjugated form of "esse". So perhaps "Deus factus est machinam" or "Deus existitus machinam". Admittedly, it's been a few years since I've had to actually form Latin sentences, so I can't recall if the passive periphrastic needs an accusative form at the end 
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Bruceski posted:With all the mechanisms in this mansion and traveling via the clocks, I'd say Deus Est Machina is more likely. Eh, call it license for the sake of a pun. Which, bravo sir.
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Tempest_56 posted:Yeah, that's what I thought. Why not use the music mask and shatter the stage backdrop early? No glass means that Tequila cannot die from breaking it with her song.
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That's no guarantee that the pianist won't just stab her a few times, she hasn't got a good improvised weapon nearby like Reggie does and even then he got a pretty lucky throw.
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I dunno, though... With the exception of Reggie, it feels like everyone else has very ironic/appropriate deaths and it almost feels like that's... Required? I mean, not to pull the game apart too much but for everyone but Reggie it'd just be a world and a third easier to stab them when they're alone or poison them or whatever. I mean, how hard would it have been to just drop a cyanide capsule into Aurum's drink? And heck, Thanos, a very old very disabled man, was completely alone and vulnerable with a butler for some time. If the goal was simply to kill them... Seems like there wouldn't have been so much begrudging restraint. No... I think there's more to it.
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Lazy Bear posted:I dunno, though... With the exception of Reggie, it feels like everyone else has very ironic/appropriate deaths and it almost feels like that's... Required? I mean, not to pull the game apart too much but for everyone but Reggie it'd just be a world and a third easier to stab them when they're alone or poison them or whatever. I mean, how hard would it have been to just drop a cyanide capsule into Aurum's drink? And heck, Thanos, a very old very disabled man, was completely alone and vulnerable with a butler for some time. If the goal was simply to kill them... Seems like there wouldn't have been so much begrudging restraint. No... I think there's more to it. In this line of thinking everyone but Reginald's death is thematic and kind of their own doing. Clay drinks himself to death while he ought to be looking after his wife, whom ends up in a bad spot because she's too nosey/picks a lock to a room she knows she shouldn't be in. The two dudes get killed on stage cause they're there trying to steal a giant jeweled egg. Willow is screwing around with voodoo magics. Runes and Thanos get cooked cause they're snooping and explicitly told they're not supposed to be in that area. And the singer... kind of... sings a petty and bitter song about Lucas who dumped her? Okay lost it a little there at the end, but a lot of the deaths are kind of the victims fault. Reggie getting shot seems to be a kind of weird outlier.
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Jade Star posted:Reggie getting shot seems to be a kind of weird outlier. I figure the rest of the servants are really into the whole ironic death thing, and that guy decided 'Nope, no mucking around, I'm just gonna shoot the bastard, clean up, and call it a day by 5.'
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Ratoslov posted:I figure the rest of the servants are really into the whole ironic death thing, and that guy decided 'Nope, no mucking around, I'm just gonna shoot the bastard, clean up, and call it a day by 5.' Makes sense, considering his backup plan was beating Reggie to death with a candle stick if the gun didn't kill him.
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