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Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels

FoolyCharged posted:

So how exactly did the murder happen there? Did her high note shatter the glass and cut her up? What causes her to bleed out and the player not to?

This is a guess, but considering what's behind the glass, perhaps the microphone was linked to speakers behind the glass, and with the acoustics of the room behind the glass exploded inwards, whereas Lafcadio was directing his voice directly at the glass.

EDIT: Also, gonna call it now(having not actually seen this game previous so it's not a spoiler), guessing the Bloody Girl is the Marquis' wife and either Lafcadio's daughter or secret lover. Probably the latter.

Lazy Bear fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Jul 24, 2017

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Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
Greyson and Redd seem... Thick as thieves?

In all seriousness, I have to confess I was hoping you'd have gotten one of the Rockridge brothers' masks. S'pose that would tempt the player to attempt to engage the butlers directly.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
Not to mention doors with blue flame and also Lafcadio's personal feelings. I mean, it's pretty obvious every death he witnesses hurts him.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
I have a feeling that there's some grand design going on, and the Marquis is enacting twisted justice for a number of terrible crimes, a la 12 Little Indians or something. Or perhaps each hurt him in a different way. Perhaps it has to do with his wife.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
So, did the woman in the garden house look familiar to anyone? Because she looked familiar to me.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels

Zebrin posted:

First thing I thought when I saw her was "flayed woman, is that you?"
I would wager that she is the Marquis' wife. at the very least. Also, the only person without a mask on so far. interesting thing. And pregnant as gently caress. rocking a crib.
... Oh dear.

Yeah, that's basically about the size of what I was thinking when I saw her.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels

Glazius posted:

The heart and teardrop locks seem kind of odd. Aren't we... out of unique masks? Just the one more?

Though things don't seem as simple as just saving one more person.

We're out of new powers to get. I suspect that the new mask will offer insights.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
I have a strong suspicion that there's gonna be some Deus Ex Machina involved.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels

Bruceski posted:

With all the mechanisms in this mansion and traveling via the clocks, I'd say Deus Est Machina is more likely.

E: poking around I think it's supposed to be "Deus Machina Est"? Look, I know French, not Latin.

Eh, call it license for the sake of a pun. Which, bravo sir.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
I dunno, though... With the exception of Reggie, it feels like everyone else has very ironic/appropriate deaths and it almost feels like that's... Required? I mean, not to pull the game apart too much but for everyone but Reggie it'd just be a world and a third easier to stab them when they're alone or poison them or whatever. I mean, how hard would it have been to just drop a cyanide capsule into Aurum's drink? And heck, Thanos, a very old very disabled man, was completely alone and vulnerable with a butler for some time. If the goal was simply to kill them... Seems like there wouldn't have been so much begrudging restraint. No... I think there's more to it.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
Okay, so it's confirmed that the Bloody Girl is Eleanor, by her own slip of the tongue. If I had to guess, I'd say Deuteronomy Bounde is Lucas, though that almost seems too obvious.

... Wait. Oh jeez, I think I got it, and you're not gonna like it.

This is a dream or an allegory or something to the effect. Everyone except Lucas died in the fire, a fire that Lucas feels he is at fault for. Lucas was kept alive by life support, possibly still is, and he's been going over the deaths of his friends again and again. Deuteronomy is his guilt, making him relive these experiences forever until eventually it will kill him. The man in the glass chamber is the 'power source' of this manifestation of the mansion. It's Lucas's mind. The butler-looking gent on the table with the mask forcing him to breathe is a representation of his body being sustained by respirators and the like.

Lafcadio, being a priest, is the only person who can truly provide salvation, the only person who can save his soul from what he's done. The Bloody Girl is the worst part of his grief, the fact that he killed his wife and unborn child, but he recognizes on a deep level that Ellie wouldn't want him to keep torturing himself like this. She'd want him to forgive himself, and move on. So she empowers the image of Lafcadio, someone who Lucas loved and admired, someone who represents that forgiveness, to break this cycle and destroy this construct.

EDIT: Again, I'm watching this LP otherwise blind, so if this turns out to even be remotely accurate, it was a guess.

Lazy Bear fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Aug 1, 2017

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels

Kurieg posted:

I was doing some googling to see if it was possible to save everyone in one day, and apparently the day automatically resets after you save anyone a second time, probably so they don't have to come up with alternate dialog and walkpaths for various NPCs since almost everyone reacts to the gunshot..

I mean, he still fires a blank...

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels

LordHippoman posted:

I loved this game a lot. It's real good, folks.

Some minor details about the ending I want to put in spoilers so people don't see them before they watch the video:


-Gold Skull looks like a younger Lucas than the Marquis, so, personally, I like to think his appearance is how Lucas imagines his unborn son would have looked. You can see GS cut himself off at 15:27 talking about it, and then following it up with "WE don't deserve to be forgotten." That's not explicitly true or anything, I just think it's a neat idea.

-I thought the last puzzle was a bit of a letdown at first, since it's like, one room and two steps, but I ended up liking it, looking back. Storywise the "real" final challenge is Lucas forgiving himself, so I think it's fair if the actual puzzle the player has to solve isn't that tough.


I'm personally of the mind that Deuteronomy represents Lucas as a prisoner. Something about the hair, I dunno.

Thanks for the LP, Scruffy. And the music in this game is absolutely stunning and I seriously wanna buy the OST.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
So... What is the deal with the playing cards, I wonder? Is it just an extended casino metaphor, or is there more to it? I mean, also what's the deal with them in-game, but more the first.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels

Fedule posted:

It is a sustained and protracted crime that there has not yet been - and by all signs never will be - a digital soundtrack release. A soundtrack album exists, but you can only get it by purchasing a specific physical edition for PS4. If I were the artist I would be hopping mad about this.

That is a drat crying shame. And yes, a friggin' crime.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
I'm kind of surprised how close I got with blind guessing.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
I'm gonna echo the complaint about everything being a bit too zoomed out to really enjoy the obviously stellar art design. At least during the 'cutscenes' and maybe(if you could smoothly do it) during any dialogue that freezes time it could have moved the camera in a bit. Almost seems like they're ashamed of the character designs.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels

Nevileen posted:

Fair enough! To me, it doesn't discount the possibility he could have gone into the priesthood himself - possibly following in the path of his dear friend while trying to atone and punish himself for the accident. It could just be my irl experiences leaking through, though. :V

Immersion is always at least partially projection, and it's a sign of a well-written character if you can understand their motivations through the lens of your own experiences.

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Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
From Lafcadio's point of view, that bet was a win-win. If he won, the money he won would keep the casino afloat a little longer. Long enough to sell it legitimately, perhaps. And losing, well, one less thing to worry about and become a priest. Plus, the casino was going to a dear friend.

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