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IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


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Graylien posted:

Apparently they were planning on a pirate thing for Willow? I'm not really sure why.


Voodoo. The popular images of Caribbean voodoo and Caribbean piracy share a lot of visual themes.

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IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe
Poor Willow forgot her Louisiana French. Grinmaw isn't the poison, he's le poisson.

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe

berryjon posted:

That is something to note - how was Boone killed?

In an accident by someone who didn't see him.

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe

FoolyCharged posted:

So how exactly did the murder happen there? Did her high note shatter the glass and cut her up? What causes her to bleed out and the player not to?

Seems like that window was built to resonate and explode like that with the sound of Tequila's voice.

Maybe because Boone knows it's going to explode he can brace for it, or maybe the power gives him more control. Or he can't actually die, or puzzle game logic.

The person in the golden skull mask is new. He's not on the cover art - I assume the guy in the hawk-nosed mask holding the Lafcadio piece is the Marquis, and the other six are the guests whose masks give powers.

Going back and re-reading the biography blurbs on the characters, it all comes back to the Marquis's wife. I assume she's Reggie's niece, that he brought to help repair a clock at one point, which is how the Marquis met her.

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe
Grayson's got this whole "Man in the Iron Mask" thing going on. That pocketwatch sure is prominent, in both his main portrait and those development sketches. Maybe he was an early design for the clockmaker character that got repurposed?

Redd's mask looks kinda like Disney's Beast. I gotta wonder why he and Clay are victims. They're both casino employees and they're both in love with someone who designed part of the mansion. Is there something that separates them from the skull-mask playing-card servants? Is that why they have to die?

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe
The second post has updated with room and tool descriptions, and this:


... is kind of alarming.


berryjon posted:

Well, we haven't found the Marquis yet, and about the only event yet unexplained is the crashing sound about around 4 to 4:15.

Perhaps this is being played straight, and we really *are* Boone, out to save the Marquis?

That's my current thought. Perhaps Lucas is the "last" victim, whether or not he planned to die as part of whatever this plot is. Once he reveals what his intentions are and gives Boone his best "but you can't save everyone!", then we'll have the big scramble to save all the guests in one go leading to the big confrontation in the bar.

I'm curious if there are any ghosts hanging out in the Casino and the Chapel. Maybe one possesses the blackjack-dealing robot to try and warn Clay.

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe

Tempest_56 posted:

So I've been doing the math on trying to save all the guests at once, and yeah, it just doesn't seem possible with travel time. Best I can come up with:

The solution likely involves the transport mirrors the servants use, and whatever architectural secrets Thanos's mask reveals.

In theory, since Tequila's body being dumped is what causes Trinity to panic and get caught in the spider web, saving Tequila would save Trinity. In practice you probably want Clay to leave the blackjack table to get Trinity anyway, so you can get rid of that poisoned drink that's left sitting there. That would be a King's-Quest-esque dick move, having that drink screw up your save-everyone run at the 11th hour.

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe

Jade Star posted:

The two dudes get killed on stage cause they're there trying to steal a giant jeweled egg.

To this I would add: Grayson's obsession over the egg leads him to walk into what is obviously a trap. Redd throws his life away for Grayson's sake, which adds some extra torture to Grayson's demise.

Thanos has absolute faith in his own designs and never stops to wonder if they could be tampered with or turned against him. Aurum doesn't really take Thanos seriously but goes along with him anyway; he lets his friendship and a few strong drinks interfere with his judgement.

Reggie is the only one really aware the staff is trying to kill him, and he's running and hiding from them when the game starts. Though one thing I can't quite reconcile is how his killer decides to use the old gun on the spur of the moment, while all the other staff hear the gunshot and are like "that will be Mr. Sixpence dying, right on schedule".

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe
Survivor's guilt is a hell of a thing. Speculation below:

The player-character burned down the mansion. The explosives in the basement tickled his memory because they're his. I have to wonder, did he intend to kill all of his friends? Or just himself? Or anybody at all? The burning door that can be passed by rewinding time, and the "if only we were here earlier", suggests that the deaths were not intentional.

Regardless, his mind is broken, and now he hates himself. "Gold Mask" is the part of him that is torturing himself within this nightmare, imagining his friends dying over and over and over, projecting his hatred of himself onto their innocent images. But "Lafcadio Boone" is the part of him that's trying to come to terms with what happened, and ultimately forgive himself. When he saves his friends from the murder-loops, he remembers their faces and what they were really like, removing the masks his guilt has assigned to them, and he draws strength from the memories.

This holds true whether Lucas or Lafcadio is the one who burned down the mansion.

Now that I think about it, it is possible that Lucas and Lafcadio are the same person, Laffy Boone having changed his name to Lucas Bonde at some point when he decided to abandon the priesthood in favor of the wealthy life of the "Marquis". The two men are both L.B., and the whole Boone/Bonde/Bounde theme naming thing lends itself to the idea. Also, plot-relevant pun names: Deuteronomy Bounde is binding the arsonist to this nightmare, while Lafcadio Boone offers the boon of salvation, and Eleanor Bonde is the lingering connection, bond, to his friends that certainly still love him even if he's responsible for their deaths.

Deuteronomy is the book of the sermons Moses gave to the Israelites before they entered the promised land - a journey Moses could not complete himself, as he died just short. Fitting if this is indeed Lucas/Lafcadio's struggle towards his own salvation - and probably his death.

IMJack fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Aug 2, 2017

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe
Not quite the ending I expected, but it's an ending, and not a bad one.

Considering how early in the day stuff starts to explode, I was expecting Lucas went into a coma after he threw himself out of the clock tower, and doesn't actually know his wife and friends died. The reveal being they didn't, and have been visiting him. That's what helps him realize this fantasy is just that. Would that be too much of a cop-out ending?

Thank you for showing this off, Scruffy. You've sold at least one more copy of the game.

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IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe

WFGuy posted:

I think the reason Gold Skull looks younger is because he's trapped in that moment, or at least one shortly after it. It takes a long time to even think about forgiving himself.

It's a bittersweet ending, but a good one. I think I can forgive it (sorry) the lack of a good gameplay climax.

Gold Skull's haircut made me think of someone who was shaved down either from brain surgery or admission to prison, or both. Maybe that's just bias on my part.

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