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Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang

Krispy Kareem posted:

Eh. If you can't hypothesize what Hitler would've done if X was Y, then what's the point.


Maybe 20% of their total force (think that includes Commonwealth) and less than 10% of their final fighting numbers. It wouldn't have made a huge difference because Germany didn't invade. The loss of all that officer talent would've hurt, although if anyone was getting off that beach it was probably an officer.

By the end of the War the British were being unfairly lambasted by American officers as overly cautious or lazy (see Caen). Because by the end of that point the British army had been bled white and while they were still dedicated to fighting, the officers abhorred the idea of wasting lives. Without the BEF survivors forming the backbone of the British army in the preceding years (especially the NCOs), there is no way the British army would have done as well as it did through the war, or been operating at the level it was during the push towards Germany.

Armies are institutions, and you cannot just conscript hundreds of years of institutional knowledge.

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Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
There was absolutely nothing wrong with the mixing or volume at the UK Imax I saw it in. Your cinemas are poo poo.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
The film goes out of its way to say that the only heroes are the people who put aside their own chances of survival for the sake of others, be they pilots, fishermen, or the Commanders of the evacuation. Everyone else is simply existing, and trying to survive in a literal hell. Was what some of them were doing lovely? Yes. Were they lovely for doing it? The film is saying that you have no right to judge. Just as it doesn't ask you to judge the far, far greater number of men it shows acting with discipline and 'courage'.

It goes to great lengths not to cast anyone as a villain. That's why there are no Germans, just a reference to "The Enemy," the villain of the film is the situation. Everyone else is just a victim reacting in entirely human ways.

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