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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

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Did anyone else feel like Tom hardy may have been slacking off due to fumes getting into his cockpit after he lost his gauge?

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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

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It seems like the movie missed the mark on some of the "emotional" scenes, which stick out because they cut into the tension and came across cheesy. The arrival of the small boats is this big triumphant fanfare that immediately smash cuts back to "of gently caress of gently caress oh gently caress"

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

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I feel there needs to be a point to gore in war films beyond just being "realistic". Band of brothers uses it to emphasize the unpleasant business of keeping a dying man alive long enough to get him to a medic. The Pacific, which is much more violent than BOB, uses its extreme violence to emphasize the desensitizing effects of the moment and contrast them against the aftermath when ptsd sets in. Or how Fury uses its violence to say "gently caress your patriotic bullshit sanitized heroic war fantasies".

Whereas hacksaw ridge uses violence to make the pacifist medic look better and do right by God, while in the foreground a man uses a shredded limb as a trench club.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

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The world is big. Atonement has that big tracking shot and you'd think the entire BEF was in view. They didn't have a lot of space on the beaches at Dunkirk but 400 000 men spread out in either direction can cover an area sparsely even if it is only a few kilometers. On top of that the film was focusing mostly on the far eastern side of the beach. The scale only falls apart when they break for the Dutch boat outside the perimeter and it's only a half mile walk away from the mole.

That and the fact there is no sign of any of the British equipment or guns that were left scuttled on the beach.

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Mar 4, 2013

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Considering the small ships were evacuating people nonstop, the "week" at the Mole may as well have been two days. The only moment where you could feasibly put the timeskip in would be when the scottish soldiers headed off for the dutch boat.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

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Except the one hour timeline also had the best cinematography. That is some of the best aerial combat ever filmed since Battle of Britain.

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Mar 4, 2013

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The Churchill speech was intentionally juxtaposed as military patriotic crap against the nightmare the soldiers just lived through. Apart from Rylance, all the civilians in the movie have this cheery attitude about the soldiers as heroes just for surviving, and it directly contrasts their idealism with the pants making GBS threads reality of the situation.

Tommy never did get to take a dump the whole film.

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Mar 4, 2013

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It's a fifty mile trip. If anything the most inaccurate thing in the movie is how little fuel Tom hardy had. He could have flown over Dunkirk and back easily on a full tank without going into his reserve. I like to think when he got hit he did actually lose most of his fuel.

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Mar 4, 2013

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mrlego posted:

I do remember them flying low to target to save on fuel. Was this to take advantage of ground effect?

More to do with how much fuel it takes to climb. You really have to gun the engine to get a good altitude going, and they're providing cover for the ground forces, since the enemy are strafing them. They don't need to fly so high, though not flying high enough is what gets Fortis Leader shot down.

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Mar 4, 2013

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I like that the film accurately portrayed the resentment that the army had towards the air force at Dunkirk. While the RAF was absolutely there and did a large part in suppressing the bombing runs, they usually did it pretty high up or offshore where they wouldn't be visible to the soldiers trapped on the beach. Hardy's amazing gliding kill and victory jaunt along the beach is about the most fantastical thing in the film.

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Mar 4, 2013

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Jewmanji posted:

Are Messerschmitts larger than Spitfires? The way Nolan filmed them (especially the POV shots where Hardy is shooting at them) make them seem like massive, slow, hulking bombers. The plane that was strafing everyone at the end was a Messerchmitt, right? Were any other German planes featured?

BF-109s are actually pretty small planes. The mockup used in this film is a spanish built HA-1112, which is the basic airframe of a BF-109 except it has a Rolls-Royce Merlin engine in the front, which makes the nose a fair bit bulkier than a standard 109. In the film the HA-1112 is representing an E-series 109, which was more blunt nosed than later variants.

The dogfights in the film took place at extremely low altitudes, which makes any plane seem slow and ponderous due to wind resistance. Generally dogfights between fighters and bombers take place well above 4 kilometers where the air is thinner and planes get much more maneuverable.

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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

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Erich Hartmann maybe.

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