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Krispy Kareem posted:There is a difference between beating someone so bad they just want out and beating them so bad they will never give up. Russia could have lost twice as many men and they still would've marched into Berlin. The US was ready to lose twice as many men invading Japan. But neither country had that kind of resolve fighting smaller countries later. The Nazis were pretty unequivocal on the point that a Russian surrender would have ended in the loss of 100% of its men; they had already set to work making good on their lebensraum promises in the territory they'd occupied. The Red Army pushed clean back to Berlin for the same reason they partitioned the city for 44 years after the end of the war, they'd reasonably concluded that Germany ever regaining a position to threaten them again was an existential threat to be avoided at any cost. It takes an incredibly comic-book reading of the war to conclude that the Germans had given Russia a bloody nose and got them reeeeal mad and that's why they fought so hard. Stalin was indifferent to losses because there was nothing to be gained by not fighting; nothing the Russian people could possibly lose that would be worse than the cost of defeat. This was not the case with America and Japan, who at the time the bombs dropped were dickering over points like officially denying the divinity of the Emperor. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Aug 5, 2017 |
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Pander posted:There's not a very exciting movie here if you stick with one guy just sitting in a queue on the beach for a week straight waiting for his eventual ride out without several life or death escapes. There's a ton of absolutely incredible Eastern Front war movies that are, effectively, entirely about people sitting around in the mud and snow waiting to die. There's a pretty famous WW1 flick entirely about an armless legless blind, deaf and mute man rotting in a hospital bed. It does limit the ways in which your film can resemble Saving Private Ryan, but has not remotely ever been an obstacle to better directors. Unfortunately, most of the drama and tension in those kinds of stories comes from vividly conveying the emotional state of the characters, so making a story like that exciting wasn't a realistic option for Nolan gfarrell80 posted:I'm also not sure if the cutesy nonlinear narrative really added anything to the story, other than potential for confusion and a murky sense of distance and time. What it did to was take time away from character dialogue that could have potentially injected a little more humanity and interest into the movie. Nolan has gotten typecast as the Time Gimmick Guy, he gets a fair bit of latitude in choosing the nominal subjects of his movies but forgoing some kind of time gimmick and BWOOOOOOOONG would be like M. Night Shyamalan trying to release a film without a twist ending. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Aug 6, 2017 |
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