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What do you folks think of the Sand Land show so far? And/or the movie, I gather the first 6 eps are pretty much the movie. (noticed it didn't have a thread, and didn't see anybody talking about it in past few pages of some threads)
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not a fan of the cgi style
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Apr 6, 2024 15:00
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Where is it playing?
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Apr 6, 2024 16:01
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It's on Hulu and/or Disney+
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Apr 6, 2024 16:20
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Heavy Metal posted:What do you folks think of the Sand Land show so far? And/or the movie, I gather the first 6 eps are pretty much the movie. I haven't watched the show but I'm a fan of the manga. I also liked the demo of the video game. It felt like a good PS2 game, in a good way.
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Apr 6, 2024 19:56
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Ytlaya posted:As someone who didn't follow Super at all until very recently, learning of the existence of "Orange Piccolo" was extremely funny to me, and even more funny after looking up what he looks like. And then learning that he's really big! Being really big isn't related to Orange, it's something Piccolo was already able to do but just forgot that he could for 400 episodes
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Apr 7, 2024 00:37
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I think by big they mean how bulky he becomes compared to his usual self.
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Apr 7, 2024 00:38
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P-Mack posted:Being really big isn't related to Orange, it's something Piccolo was already able to do but just forgot that he could for 400 episodes He didn't forget it just wasn't helpful. Giant Piccolo is, unlike a saiyans giant monkey form, exactly 0% stronger than Normal Piccolo.
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Apr 7, 2024 01:37
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i think its weird though, like i understand chi levels not changing, but wouldn't the increased mass provide an equally increased amt of force.
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Apr 7, 2024 02:22
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GateOfD posted:i think its weird though, like i understand chi levels not changing, but wouldn't the increased mass provide an equally increased amt of force. A lot of strength in DBZ comes from chi manipulation rather than raw physical strength/size/etc. Being bigger doesn't give you more chi so it genuinely doesn't provide any meaningful boost beyond having some extra weight/reach/etc. Saiyans don't just grow big when they monkey form, they gain a huge increase in power too. You do have midpoints like Full Power Frieza or the mid-point Super Saiyans where they bulk up and gain power from it, but that appears to be more like they're overloading their body rather than just gaining muscle mass, which is why Trunks ends up sucking because he's increased his power by a ton but it isn't actually being properly channeled so even if he hits really hard he's not any faster.
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Apr 7, 2024 02:28
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Basically things like Full Power Frieza or Really Big Trunks is them directly trying to channel their reserves into raw "right the gently caress now" power. For Frieza it mostly just lets him get a little closer to Goku, but doesn't have any appreciable difference. For Trunks, he genuinely gets stronger than Cell, but he's not only made his muscles so big his agility falls, he's directly reduced the amount of ki he can put into speed. Great Ape Form appears to do things to a Saiyan's body that directly lets them tap into a ton more power without draw backs, but there's no point when you can get better multipliers without becoming a bigger target. Broly instinctively manages to force his way to that level without changing his body so drastically, even. Meanwhile, Piccolo DOES technically get stronger when he grows giant, but the only time that has any real use is in late DB, and even then it's only marginal. A normal body should not be able to hold together when it's hit a fist the size of a truck. Ki is used for defense as well as offense, and by the time Nappa rolls around just getting big doesn't give nearly enough of an increase. It's a linear increase based on size; meanwhile, everyone's Ki has increased by many times over at that point. Going big against Cell MAX let Piccolo actually get him into holds and stuff, which was way more useful than the miniscule physical strength increase it provided. Kurui Reiten fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Apr 7, 2024 |
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Rare gif of Goku getting jumped.
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Apr 7, 2024 19:42
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Siegkrow posted:Rare gif of Goku getting jumped. 
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Apr 7, 2024 20:53
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That era had some great yell faces 
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Apr 7, 2024 20:55
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Comparing this to Super Hero is so sad. Truly the end of an era
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worlds strongest was so good that rock the dragon was mostly composed of it
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Apr 7, 2024 21:41
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dead zone and world's strongest... the greatest dbz movies before BoG
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Dead Zone and World's Strongest also benefitted from having the closest to original villains prior to BoG. Like, yeah, Garlic Jr was kiiiiiinda treading on King Piccolo territory but he was different enough it didn't feel that way (especially compared to goddamn Slug) and Professor Wheelo, aside from 'mad scientist who makes robots', wasn't really close to anything and predates the Android saga anyway.
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Apr 7, 2024 23:44
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I like how the reasoning behind Turles looking identical to Goku was that low-class Saiyans tend to look identical and yet we never see another example of that anywhere else.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:I like how the reasoning behind Turles looking identical to Goku was that low-class Saiyans tend to look identical and yet we never see another example of that anywhere else. Bardock
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Apr 8, 2024 00:14
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Wanna see Garlic Sr
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Waffleman_ posted:Wanna see Garlic Sr We technically already did but only in flashbacks https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Garlic
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:dead zone and world's strongest those + ocean/pioneer dub are godly
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Alan_Shore posted:Bardock Turles is totally unrelated to him.
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P-Mack posted:Being really big isn't related to Orange, it's something Piccolo was already able to do but just forgot that he could for 400 episodes Yeah I realized it wasn't part of the transformation after that post (though he hasn't really used the "grow big" since his first fight with Goku I don't think - since it kinda sucks against smaller opponents). ImpAtom posted:Dead Zone and World's Strongest also benefitted from having the closest to original villains prior to BoG. Like, yeah, Garlic Jr was kiiiiiinda treading on King Piccolo territory but he was different enough it didn't feel that way (especially compared to goddamn Slug) and Professor Wheelo, aside from 'mad scientist who makes robots', wasn't really close to anything and predates the Android saga anyway. I always confuse Garlic Jr and Pilaf
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Turles is totally unrelated to him. They're both low-class Saiyans who look identical.
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Apr 8, 2024 02:40
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goddamn Goku trucked that dude into the next dimension
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Good soup! posted:those + ocean/pioneer dub are godly I don't even think they mispronounced attack names like they did in the series.
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ocean's dead zone even had the same score as the japanese version which is what introduced me to it in the first place.
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Ytlaya posted:Yeah I realized it wasn't part of the transformation after that post (though he hasn't really used the "grow big" since his first fight with Goku I don't think - since it kinda sucks against smaller opponents). He is pretty Pilaf looking
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ImpAtom posted:He is pretty Pilaf looking Also Pilaf sounding given he had the same voice actor.
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Maybe they’re members of the same race or something
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Rudoku posted:I don't even think they mispronounced attack names like they did in the series. 16-bit Butt-Head posted:ocean's dead zone even had the same score as the japanese version which is what introduced me to it in the first place.  i remember when toonami did that movie marathon and heard the original music from those two movies and wondering wtf why did they replace it in the first place*, I mean the quality is that pitiful Toei backup video, but it made it super distinct even to kid me, at leastI think it was peter kelamis who said in an interview that the recording sessions for those were far less restrictive and had more consistent direction for the acting side of things, but I guess that's also a product of working on a few short movies rather than a ton of syndicated episodes
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World's Strongest is my favorite DBZ movie. The set design in it and Dead Zone are the best. Ginger drawing his swords embedded in his arms the absolute poo poo. ...I also like Return of Cooler don't @ me
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I like the Future Trunks DLC in Kakarot. That whole setting is kind of interesting, with the relationship between Trunks and adult Gohan. Gohan in that setting seems really tragic to me. Just suddenly forced to take all the responsibility, despite being the Z-fighter who hates fighting.Larryb posted:Maybe they’re members of the same race or something I think Pilaf is a human. I feel like it was mentioned in the Kakarot game I'm playing somewhere.
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Ytlaya posted:I like the Future Trunks DLC in Kakarot. That whole setting is kind of interesting, with the relationship between Trunks and adult Gohan. Gohan in that setting seems really tragic to me. Just suddenly forced to take all the responsibility, despite being the Z-fighter who hates fighting. His doomed final stand against the Androids is probably the saddest moment, especially when the ki bar UI shatters leaving Gohan barely able to move as 17 and 18 laugh at him.
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