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Rascar Capac
Aug 31, 2016

Surprisingly nice, for an evil Inca mummy.

FreudianSlippers posted:

I appreciate that action comedy not based on any IP or franchise is a thing again but I also feel like The Fall Guy would work better with the same central concept, a stunt double has to hunt down the star he's doubling in the Hollywood underworld, would work better as a neo-noir thriller.

The Fall Guy is based on an IP: The 80s TV series with Lee Majors.

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Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

garycoleisgod posted:

The Fall Guy is out in Australia already and I gave it a watch, and ehhh, to be honest if Hobbs & Shaw didn't exist, this is easily David Leitch's worst movie.

I knew from the trailers there was something off about the relationship / romance.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Rascar Capac posted:

The Fall Guy is based on an IP: The 80s TV series with Lee Majors.

Woah

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
I saw Lee Majors in a film the other day: the very bad 2022 renegades about old SAS guys fighting...australian gangsters in London? Anyway, it's spectacularly inept on literally every level and kind of worth watching on that basis. You can tell exactly what kind of film they wanted to make and they fail at every single turn. It's not so bad it's good, but it is interesting to see such an amazingly poorly made film

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Watching Jackie Chan's Miracles for the first time (it's on Max and Criterion) and just losing my poo poo during the first really big fight scene at the rival gang's base. Just gonna have a huge grin for the entirety of this movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmYvleesq-Q&t=140s

High Warlord Zog
Dec 12, 2012
While it doesn't reach the heights of The Man From Hong Kong or Dead End Drive In, Brian Trenchard Smith's Deathcheaters is a watchable bit of Australian kitsch about stuntmen roped into an action movie plot.

Also, the first feature credit for cinematographer John Seale (The Hitcher, Fury Road, Rain Man, The Talented Mr Ripley, a bunch of early Peter Weir movies).

High Warlord Zog fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Apr 27, 2024

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Punkin Spunkin posted:

Watching Jackie Chan's Miracles for the first time (it's on Max and Criterion) and just losing my poo poo during the first really big fight scene at the rival gang's base. Just gonna have a huge grin for the entirety of this movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmYvleesq-Q&t=140s

Miracles is actually an incredibly sweet film to boot. It's like a magical rom com that also explodes into an elite tier fight scene every thirty minutes or so.

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

:stat:man

High Warlord Zog posted:

While it doesn't reach the heights of The Man From Hong Kong or Dead End Drive In, Brian Trenchard Smith's Deathcheaters is a watchable bit of Australian kitsch about stuntmen roped into an action movie plot.

I haven't seen that one yet, but I will. Trenchard Smith has had a fun career. He made a pretty good Vietnam movie called Siege of Firebase Gloria in the 80s and a pretty bad but entertaining remake of the old Bogart movie Sahara starring Jim Belushi of all people in the 90s. About ten years ago he made a fun hangout/crime movie called Hard Drive or Drive Hard with John Cusack.

trevorreznik
Apr 22, 2023

Punkin Spunkin posted:

Watching Jackie Chan's Miracles for the first time (it's on Max and Criterion) and just losing my poo poo during the first really big fight scene at the rival gang's base. Just gonna have a huge grin for the entirety of this movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmYvleesq-Q&t=140s

I've shown the YouTube of the rope factory fight to many, many people, as an example of creativity and comedy in action that we simply don't get much of in the last few decades.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
Rewatching The Raid for the umpteenth time and while I am glad that we got The Raid 2 and appreciate what it brought to the table, I am still a little sad about where a straighter sequel to this movie could have gone. Like, where the gently caress did Rama (and his brother) learn to fight like that? They talk about their father in a really ominous way and it dawned on me on this rewatch that we never find out what that is all about. Rama is supposed to bring his brother home, show me Rama's loving home! And bring back Mad Dog, again!

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
I would've enjoyed that, I feel like the sequel didn't have much of what made the first one so appealing to me. Not only are the characters more cartoonish, everything is, and now its no longer this tight single location action film, it's an action film competing with every big spectacle action film.
For me more or less ehhh even if I still like a scene or two from The Raid 2.

But I did dig the gently caress out of The Night Comes For Us.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Punkin Spunkin posted:

I would've enjoyed that, I feel like the sequel didn't have much of what made the first one so appealing to me. Not only are the characters more cartoonish, everything is, and now its no longer this tight single location action film, it's an action film competing with every big spectacle action film.
For me more or less ehhh even if I still like a scene or two from The Raid 2.

But I did dig the gently caress out of The Night Comes For Us.

The Night Comes For Us to me is pretty much perfect.

Definitely agreed that The Raid 2 is meandering where the first was like a juggernaut, rushing ahead into the next scene where all sorts of people would be wrecked in increasingly ridiculous ways. Ra1d is one of those movies that make you wonder why Rama even bothered with all that gear to begin with because he seemed to gain strength proportional to how much of it he cast off, killing like two guys total with his guns and just busting tracheae left and right with his hands afterward.

I still love The Raid 2 for the sheer balls it had to present a sprawling gangster epic which still had Sad Dog and the prison yard fight, scenes other movies can only dream of.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:
I like Headshot a bit more than Night Comes for Us. But agree about Raid 2. The prison yard scene was decent but overall not as good.

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

:stat:man
I'm the one person who liked raid 2 more than the first, because I think the fights are better, it has a cool Bruce law car chase, and has a plot.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan
Following The Raid is rough, it broke enough conventions and moved the genre forwards enough that you simply can’t better-arrange the same stunts either better plot, camerawork, etc, to match the sheer joy of the new that the original did.

I completely believe that if I came into it blind then 2 is better, but the shock and joy of the cool poo poo in the original relative to the world before is so powerful.

AccountSupervisor
Aug 3, 2004

I am greatful for my loop pedal
Monkey Man floored me. What an incredible fuckin action movie. Maybe not as much as some would expect or want, but when it happened it mattered and it was about as intense as it could be.

Immaculate vibes, incredible cinematography and soundtrack. Id definitely put it up there with the greats.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

Remulak posted:

Following The Raid is rough, it broke enough conventions and moved the genre forwards enough that you simply can’t better-arrange the same stunts either better plot, camerawork, etc, to match the sheer joy of the new that the original did.

I completely believe that if I came into it blind then 2 is better, but the shock and joy of the cool poo poo in the original relative to the world before is so powerful.

I agree with that, a lot of what makes The Raid awesome is it's shot on a pretty shoe string budget with a stunt team that just went all out to prove themselves. Had the Raid 2 just been a separate movie I think people would consider it a better movie

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Yeah I absolutely would, though it still wouldn't rank very high among just general big spectacle action for me (tbf there are a lot of great choices). Really it's just a loose "sequel" anyway, riding the branding and buzz of the first one.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Grendels Dad posted:

The Night Comes For Us to me is pretty much perfect.

Definitely agreed that The Raid 2 is meandering where the first was like a juggernaut, rushing ahead into the next scene where all sorts of people would be wrecked in increasingly ridiculous ways. Ra1d is one of those movies that make you wonder why Rama even bothered with all that gear to begin with because he seemed to gain strength proportional to how much of it he cast off, killing like two guys total with his guns and just busting tracheae left and right with his hands afterward.

I still love The Raid 2 for the sheer balls it had to present a sprawling gangster epic which still had Sad Dog and the prison yard fight, scenes other movies can only dream of.

The fight with the Japanese assassin at the end too, holy poo poo

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

There's just so much good stuff in Raid 2 that it feels appropriately epic. But Raid is a genre creator and intense as gently caress.

It's the best example of the Alien/Aliens dichotomy I've ever seen. And like those you'll prefer which one based on what you specifically like.

Personally? I can't choose lol the cowards choice

trevorreznik
Apr 22, 2023

AccountSupervisor posted:

Monkey Man floored me. What an incredible fuckin action movie. Maybe not as much as some would expect or want, but when it happened it mattered and it was about as intense as it could be.

Immaculate vibes, incredible cinematography and soundtrack. Id definitely put it up there with the greats.
Its quite good, and is the closest thing to a Korean revenge thriller I've seen come out of America. It has a very strong directorial voice in the camera work and editing, and the fight scenes carry that same energy as well. They aren't framed in a usual way, but that's all right, because having a new and unique style is really nice to see.
I also quite enjoyed just how much Patel used his teeth, to go with his excellent kicking which sadly isn't featured enough - he has really clean lines, the best of a Hollywood guy since John Cusack?

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

dokmo posted:

I'm the one person who liked raid 2 more than the first, because I think the fights are better, it has a cool Bruce law car chase, and has a plot.

nah i'm with you, i think the plot turned some people off and i get that 2.5 hours is very long for this kind of movie (although hey, people liked that last John Wick and it was even longer) but i thought it was all very well done. great looking movie, too.

The Night Comes For Us was a fun pseudo-Raid 3 but I did not think the action in it lived up to the Raid movies (high bar, I know)

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

I was on a few hour plane ride to another country earlier this year and started watching John Wick: The Final Chapter as soon as the entertainment screen opened up and I still missed the last 15 minutes.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


whatever happened to gareth evans's movie with tom hardy? they finished filming it years ago and then it just...disappeared?

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

DeimosRising posted:

whatever happened to gareth evans's movie with tom hardy? they finished filming it years ago and then it just...disappeared?

It has been in post-production for about two years now. Doing some googling and he apparently said on a podcast a couple of months ago that he hopes it will be released this year.

Rascar Capac
Aug 31, 2016

Surprisingly nice, for an evil Inca mummy.
On a recent episode of The Important Cinema Club podcast, they said that the problem seems to be that Hardy is refusing to come and do the reshoots, which is a big problem given that he's the star.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Rascar Capac posted:

On a recent episode of The Important Cinema Club podcast, they said that the problem seems to be that Hardy is refusing to come and do the reshoots, which is a big problem given that he's the star.

lol tom loving hardy folks

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Tom Hardy is a very solid actor but I don't think he's good enough for the reputation he has. Like, when Michael Jordan was a dick his teammates were like ok this is the price we pay for greatness. If you're gonna be that guy you better be the best at what you do.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Basebf555 posted:

Tom Hardy is a very solid actor but I don't think he's good enough for the reputation he has. Like, when Michael Jordan was a dick his teammates were like ok this is the price we pay for greatness. If you're gonna be that guy you better be the best at what you do.

hey now, find me someone else who can do a silly voice like that man

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

hey now, find me someone else who can do a silly voice like that man

Cosmo Jarvis. Like Logan Marshall-Green he's a discount Tom Hardy who's actually really good in his own right.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
He's always seemed like a bit of a prima donna jerk tbh.

https://www.indiewire.com/news/general-news/how-tom-hardy-convinced-one-critic-to-quit-the-junket-business-126965/

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

CeeJee posted:

Cosmo Jarvis. Like Logan Marshall-Green he's a discount Tom Hardy who's actually really good in his own right.

You just blew my mind because I thought Logan Marshall green was the white guy in Shogun since I knew it wasn't Tom hardy

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Yea the Tom Hardy/Logan Marshall Green thing is pretty wild, I don't think I've ever seen two actors who are doppelgangers to that extent. There are pictures where it's legitimately hard to tell which is which.

Cosmo Jarvis isn't quite as identical.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007


didn't Charlize Theron say she wouldn't work with him again under any circumstances after Fury Road

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

didn't Charlize Theron say she wouldn't work with him again under any circumstances after Fury Road

Yea Fury Road was where I think I started to notice things like that being said about him.

That shoot was definitely very difficult though, so I imagine it was a tough experience for everyone with or without Hardy.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Hardy is way past the point where I consider him just a gimmick actor and don't really care about him anymore.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
Personally, I think Tom Hardy should be a nicer and it's not *that* difficult to not be a raging rear end in a top hat to your co-workers even under stress. On the other hand, dude has been in some loving fantastic films so I can't really see how you couldn't care for him being in stuff. If the news about him being a raging rear end in a top hat accumulate, I'd file him under the Klaus Kinski type of actor because gently caress, he has earned that with Bronson alone. Like, hope he does better as a person, but why would that make you dismiss his movies?

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

I would hope that he isn't a monstrous child rapist like Kinski.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

CeeJee posted:

Cosmo Jarvis. Like Logan Marshall-Green he's a discount Tom Hardy who's actually really good in his own right.

That reminds me Upgraded is an experience. Highly recommended. Fairly harrowing.

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Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Grendels Dad posted:

Personally, I think Tom Hardy should be a nicer and it's not *that* difficult to not be a raging rear end in a top hat to your co-workers even under stress. On the other hand, dude has been in some loving fantastic films so I can't really see how you couldn't care for him being in stuff. If the news about him being a raging rear end in a top hat accumulate, I'd file him under the Klaus Kinski type of actor because gently caress, he has earned that with Bronson alone. Like, hope he does better as a person, but why would that make you dismiss his movies?
His performances aren't uniformly masterpieces and lately I can't understand what he's saying. I don't care if it's a meme or a cliche, I honestly could not understand a loving word he said in Taboo nor the last season of Peaky Blinders. Marlon Brando was a genius, but was he absolutely irreplaceable in The Score? Nah.

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