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Alan Smithee posted:I was confused too I think he assumed the mask was far enough away to turn his bolts into dumbfire projectiles
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mobby_6kl posted:Neither can I but I just imagine it's one long film and I have to take a break from watching because there's so much action. She is in a bunch of stuff, notably a few movies with Jackie Chan, and she rules. Police Story 3 is loving awesome
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MrBling posted:Seagal would also just hit the stunt guys for real, so there's a reason his fight scenes could look cooler back in the day. this reminds me of the bit in Mick Foley's book, where he describes his first time ever getting to wrestle his idol Terry Funk. quote:"No matter what mannerisms I 'borrowed,' I knew that I would never throw a punch like Terry's, which was truly a thing of beauty. Many people, including me, considered the Funker's big left hand to be the nicest punch in the business. A few minutes into the big match, Terry took me into the corner, and I saw him rear back with the big left. This was going to be great. Here it comes. When he spoke to terry in the locker room all Terry just said "And all this time you just thought I was good."
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Seagalchat if you like arts and crafts and dry humour this will be just the video for you they are so funny though
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Each one of the sequels had me nervous and then delivered and was fun, so my default expectation is it will be a fun dumb shoot guys movie.
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the new mortal kombat movie would have been if not for the obvious studio head insert main character. everything that was not him was fine and fun.
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Schwarzwald posted:I super disagree that FX was in any way "unique and idiosyncratic" as a spectacle. There's nothing in it that hadn't been done before, and done better, in other Fast Films. FX2 on the other hand is a masterpiece
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Payndz posted:Eh, it was okay. Haven't watched it for years, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adjuOPzkpw4
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digital blood looks like poo poo, as do computer muzzle effects. spend the money on safety
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Cage posted:lol the gently caress are you talking about lol
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Mulva posted:I mean when people gently caress up the work with CGI it looks a little silly, and when people gently caress up firearm safety people die.....sooooo yeah, gently caress it. No more firearms on set, seems fair. 2 people have died in the last 30 years. 1 in such an insane chain of events that no one was even charged, and one due to blatant neglect. Stunts hurt/kill far more people. We can CGI in fake actors so should we ban all in person fight scenes and stunts? Sure we can sanitize the process so there is no risk, but at the cost of the medium itself becoming even less interesting. There are countless people willing to take the risks involved to make cool movies, what they deserve is proper protection via regulation. Regulations Baldwin was skirting to avoid the requirements the Brandon Lee incident made mandatory on union film sets.
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Mulva posted:I mean I guess it's irrelevant what anyone but those that do the work think, and those that do the work seem to....be getting rid of firearms on set those people are operating in the current context of reduced budgets for things like squibs, blanks, stunt people, safety, etc and so in that context they would rather just say gently caress it and get rid of the hassle and i don't blame them.
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i think my main issue with the ever increasing amount of CGI that can be used is the clear impact it is having on filmmaking as a whole. for example setting up squibs takes time and effort. Once they go off, everything has to be redone for another take. That means a lot of care will be taken to try and get it right in a few takes as possible, and that means everything has to be right in the shot. When the team can say "well we will do it in post" that effects how the on set stuff is handled. same goes for lighting. When real lighting has to be used, that requires a certain amount of care to be taken, even if the filmmaker is trying to do it cheap and quick. digital grading has removed that as well, now if a shot is not lit well it can just be "fixed" in post. its so jarring watching even lovely older movies now compared to movies that now exist in the same sphere. Like take any lovely action movie on Amazon Prime and its full of everything we are discussing. CGI muzzle flashes when the actor does not even try and mime the recoil, CGI blood that looks terrible, digitally graded lighting that looks flat and uninteresting. nearly all special effects done with CGI. Then go watch a movie like Nemesis or Hardware which are low budget, lovely, and show it, but still have scenes with great lighting or fun action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUCGkSxowpo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHGa5EDqne8
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And it's not the filmmakers themselves, it's studios and such that are the ones compressing timelines. "Why do you need 2 weeks for this action scene? You can do X Y and Z in CGI, you only need 1 week."
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yes, and the consumer of the content, i have an opinion on said content. the lack of squibs and real blood is noticeable even in john wick and those movies would be better with them. they do the gunshots/muzzle flashes fine so no complaints there, but that is not standard at all
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Jaxyon posted:LOL yeah actually I do have a moral highground. If a stunt performer has a way of doing things safer they should use that, instead of forgoing it because some film nerd on a forum thinks it makes the movie slightly less good. they are safe ways to use guns in hollywood, they just take more time and money, as the john wick guy was explaining. And one of the key ones is to simply never have live ammo anywhere on set, which baldwin blatantly violated. since the primary motivator for using CGI in action scenes is to save time and money, it normally looks like dogshit. i love all the wick movies has i have posted about in here, but even in the new one some of the CGI blood immediately stood out as being fake looking, because it just does not look good. They are also doing a ton of in close stuff where firing a blank can damage hearing and even physically injure someone, so of course it makes sense to do it with cgi for safety. However this is dogshit and if they are not aiming at anyone there is literally no safety concern.   this is not    B-Rock452 posted:I mean blanks do look better but also with a lot of the Hong Kong movies if you actually look at the action you can tell the performers aren't aiming anywhere near each other while shooting which looks just as weird as some of the issues you get with cgi flashes. 
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Jaxyon posted:Basically your argument is that since there is still danger involved then stunt coordinators should not be advocating for a safe-ER method if it compromises what you personally care about as far as aesthetics. aesthetics are literally the foundation of a visual medium
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Jaxyon posted:Yes but sacrificing safety for aesthetics is immoral, which is why we get upset that old school Hollywood producers put their actresses on meth and cigarrettes to keep them thin and Demille killing people gotcha no live action fight scenes ever, all stuntpeople should be done in CGI, there is no acceptable risk allowed. Jaxyon posted:There's a difference between safe-ER live action and eliminating live action altogether. We should do safer methods where we can. yes. in action movies, the topic of the thread, wherein gunplay is literally the main part of many of the movies. doing it right is worth spending the time, money, and effort to do it safely, the same way thousands and thousands of movies have done so for decades without seriously injuring stuntpeople.
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Jaxyon posted:Didn't say that Jaxyon posted:Yes but sacrificing safety for aesthetics is immoral attaching a moral argument to a discussion of acceptable risk is bullshit and you are not being clever by doing so. There is a risk driving the actors to the set, risk flying them over an ocean, risk putting them on a boat or in a helicopter. There is risk doing fight scenes, falling stunts, and by having them outside too long in extreme heat in the desert. there is risk having actors smoke herbal cigarettes instead of tobacco ones. the relative risk by real guns is outweighed by the higher quality result it produces in this medium entirely based on making the audience enjoy what they are seeing. yes it takes more time, money, and effort to do safely. My entire point has been that its worth it because the alternative looks terrible and actively detracts from watching the movie or show. same way its worth having keanu do jiu jitsu (a sport that has a risk of injury!) in order to learn how to do better fight scenes. same way jackie chan's insanity produced movies that will never be matched, and that's not even considering his most bombastic and outrageous stunts, just his fight scene schrography. WoodrowSkillson fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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Narcissus1916 posted:So ah.... anyone looking forward to Mission Impossible? I hear that's got some good action. the stunts are too real
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For heat the sound is so good because it is the actual live sound of the blanks firing. The entire street was rigged for sound so you get the echoes of the gunshots included. I don't recall any of the muzzle flashes being done in post, since they would have to edit out the "real" ones from the blanks, but it's been a minute since I've watched it, maybe I'm not remembering something. WoodrowSkillson fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Jun 23, 2023 |
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Oh gotcha, that's make sense for safety reasons for sure
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:As any pro wrestling fan will tell you, The Rock is so much better at playing a villain, and his movie career hitting the dirt this bad is because they keep letting him try and be a hero instead. a buddy and i have been very, very slowly watching old 90s wwf ppvs and we finally got to where the rock is about to usurp farooq as the leader of The Nation of Domination. he is so charismatic and just amazing at being a cocky bad guy
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as a huge wwf fan back in the day, its been wild to see him degrade over time and lose all of the things that really made him special. hell the main reason he even had such a long hollywood career is he is just so charismatic that everyone loved him even if he was in some terrible movie for kids or some trash action flick. for a while he used all the things that made him one of the best wrestlers ever to great effect. then something just snapped and he became this avatar of hustle and grind culture and got so self absorbed he is a parody of his own wrestling character who was a self absorbed ego maniac. the rock as a bad guy never would have done anything as masturbatory as his insane promotions of black adam or the weird fitness drinks or whatever he is associated with, they go too far into being simply uncool and cringey
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CeeJee posted:He did well as a scary killer in Faster. As did Jason Momoa in Bullet to the Head, they could have done more villain stuff but I guess there is way more big roles for charismatic leads. isn't momoa as the bad guy supposed to be the best part of the new fast and furious movie?
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well why not posted:Totally agreed that The Rock has squandered the opportunity. He's making mega bucks doing what he's doing, but there's not really an amazing "The Rock" film aside from Pain & Gain. Fast 5 (the best one, do not @ me) is close but it's very much an ensemble. i just watched The Meg 2 and it is glorious. first half is slow as gently caress but my god does it pay off with the type of bombastic and ludicrous action that used to be more common. They completely ignore any kind of scientific realism and poo poo just happens and everyone accepts it, its great.
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Snowman_McK posted:
yep, it is a very enjoyable movie and deserves more recognition. its obviously not groundbreaking in any way but its solid all the way through
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Watched The Devil Conspiracy last night and it was astonishingly stupid and extremely fun. The don't make big dumb movies like End of Days often anymore and holy poo poo did this deliver. Bad acting, dope monsters, it has it all.
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Blade still whips rear end, but it is hard to understate just how cool that movie was when it came out. I was 14 when it came out, and me and my friends all thought it was coolest thing in loving history. everything about is is so concentrated 1998 that it is just perfect. The blood rave blew my teenage mind.
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I recently rewatched some of the first segal movies and they are good, it's easy to see why he took off initially. He also did not have the creative control then so it's nowhere near as boring or bad when he fights.
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Snowman_McK posted:Truly great martial arts require two. Watching someone, no matter how talented, style on people miles below him does eventually get stale. It stops feeling like a fight and just like they're running up the score. Jackie Chan and the Raid guys understood this, where even random mooks would show a hint of skill, throwing a cool kick or punch before being countered in a cool way and kicked out a window. One of the coolest little bits in the Raid is the drug lab henchman who can actually stand with Iko and trades an extremely sick combination of punches before being taken out. Hell even in loving Road House Swayze gets the poo poo kicked out of him before overcoming the odds and NOT getting hosed like those poor prisoners
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weekly font posted:Ok wait I take it back about Seagal never being good. Once he said he’d snatch every one of a motherfucker’s birthdays. That was the one good thing he did other than poo poo his pants getting choked out by Gene Lebell. the other day i found a wonderful weirdo on youtube who creates diorama of popular culture moments, like when Mel Gibson got arrested, or this very event. The dude narrates the entire story, and goes as far as creating a life size clay face, scanning it, and 3d printing an accurate miniature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aCMTpJx2cs
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Basebf555 posted:I mean it's definitely true that Predator takes it's time getting to the actual Predator but I think that's something a lot of people love about it. You get half of a movie where it's just the most macho possible guys marching around the jungle glaring at each other and delivering one liners and just generally being action movie alpha males, and then you get the sci-fi monster movie twist for the second half. That's a part of it, but its also important because by establishing these guys as Ultra Badasses it makes their descent into panic and fear even more effective. The movie foreshadows their fate when they find the prior CIA team's bodies and evidence of a frantic firefight, but we then see them absolutely clown on a whole division of dudes, one liners and all. However, not long after they are also reduced to blindy firing into the woods in a panic and are picked off one by one.
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Snowman_McK posted:Look, Citizen Kane may have revolutionised basically every aspect of cinema, but it didn't have a guy getting shot 30 times, spin kicked, then shot a further 30 times. it cannot be overstated how much fun Nemesis is
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Oh man I sure hope nothing happens to furiosa's arm that would be so surprising if it happened
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i hate prequels on principle and despite my massive love for fury road i am unmoved. you already told us everything we needed to know about furiosa in fury road. we don't need any more and all this does is pile extra stuff on an already perfect story. and no matter how good the director is, they can never ever resist unneeded foreshadowing to the already existing movie, and tons of little references to it that make marvel fans clap like seals. i mean gently caress the movie ends in a way that in no way precludes a dope movie about furiosa taking over from immortan joe and in the world of mad max its not like they would have to wrack their brains to figure out a conflict for her to have to resolve.
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