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Did Jack actually have a reason other than she just wanted to?
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Apr 18, 2024 18:31
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Aphrodite posted:Did Jack actually have a reason other than she just wanted to? No, she just wants to show off her tattoos. The Mass Effect 3 design at least covers her boobs, it's not terrible, but nothing excuses that original design.
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Apr 18, 2024 19:06
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Shard posted:The character design of Jack from Mass Effect 2 and 3 is so poo poo and has aged very poorly. Any time a director designs a character to be scantily clad and tries to come up with a good reason for it, it always fails. also jack was poorly written and obnoxious
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Apr 18, 2024 19:53
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I normally only enjoy pro-estableshment characters in my media, but Jack was pretty cool.
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Apr 18, 2024 19:59
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She cools off in her small appearance in 3, but I'd still never romance her.
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Apr 18, 2024 19:59
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Inspector Gesicht posted:She cools off in her small appearance in 3, but I'd still never romance her. Yeah, "Jack the edgelord" was boring. "Jack the former edgelord TRYING to be a good role model for kids" was actually kind of amusing.
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Apr 18, 2024 20:11
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the problem with characters like Jack is they weren't good enough writers to make me believe she would want to dress like that, in space of all places where the environment is so dangerous. I just think the writers and designers made her dress like that because they thought it was hot so it comes off creepy. on the flip side of things, I am fine when designers admit they design characters a certain way because they think it's hot. At least it's honest.
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Apr 18, 2024 21:00
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Space will kill you no matter what you're wearing if something goes wrong, so might as well rub your cheeks on those fancy future polymer chairs.
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Apr 18, 2024 21:06
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Jack's also the most powerful biotic in the galaxy so her barriers are stronger than any armor. This doesn't work in gameplay obviously.
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Apr 18, 2024 21:50
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Shard posted:The character design of Jack from Mass Effect 2 and 3 is so poo poo and has aged very poorly. Any time a director designs a character to be scantily clad and tries to come up with a good reason for it, it always fails. You better not be talkin' poo poo about Hideo Kojima in here.
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Apr 18, 2024 21:52
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Toshimo posted:You better not be talkin' poo poo about Hideo Kojima in here. Hideo Kojima should be ashamed for Quiet. At least Yoko Taro was honest about his horniness.
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Apr 18, 2024 21:58
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Toshimo posted:You better not be talkin' poo poo about Hideo Kojima in here. I will always talk poo poo about Hideo Kojima when it comes to this specific topic.  
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Apr 18, 2024 22:07
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If I looked like Jack I would dress that way too
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Apr 18, 2024 22:25
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Aphrodite posted:Jack's also the most powerful biotic in the galaxy so her barriers are stronger than any armor. This what I keep trying to explain but the Burger King employees keep insisting I can’t enter without shoes Randalor posted:Hideo Kojima should be ashamed for Quiet. At least Yoko Taro was honest about his horniness. The virgin “ashamed of your words and deeds” Kojima vs the chad “if you can put all the 2B porn in a zip file and send it to me I’d appreciate it tia” Yoko Taro Kit Walker has a new favorite as of 22:37 on Apr 18, 2024 |
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Apr 18, 2024 22:35
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there was a meme I saw I think around when toriyama died that went something like "virgin creepy young guy vs horny old guy" an uh, wow should I have not googled to try and find it again
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Apr 18, 2024 22:45
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Shard posted:on the flip side of things, I am fine when designers admit they design characters a certain way because they think it's hot. At least it's honest. so that Drake meme, but we have Miranda as the one he's giving the thumbs up for?
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Apr 18, 2024 22:46
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Aces High posted:so that Drake meme, but we have Miranda as the one he's giving the thumbs up for? She's too old for Drake.
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ImpAtom posted:She's too old for Drake. Jesus LOL
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NoiseAnnoys posted:also mass effect 2 was poorly written and obnoxious
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Shard posted:The character design of Jack from Mass Effect 2 and 3 is so poo poo and has aged very poorly. Any time a director designs a character to be scantily clad and tries to come up with a good reason for it, it always fails. I actually found Miranda’s design more gratuitous than Jack’s. And then we get Samara.
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Apr 19, 2024 03:45
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Shard posted:Any time a director designs a character to be scantily clad and tries to come up with a good reason for it, it always fails. Alias from D&D's Curse Of The Azure Bonds with her ridiculous cleavage window armor was a great example. They used this art over and over and over in magazine ads and on the cover of the novel and the tie-in computer game and RPG module and posters etc etc etc  The reasons they came up with for her to be wearing it in the first place and then to continue wearing it were super thin: quote:- This has been handwaved as either ceremonial armour, or to allow those controlling her through the eponymous azure bonds to kill her easily if she showed signs of rebellion. The image has been used throughout Dungeons & Dragons media and the spin-off computer game, Curse of the Azure Bonds. The tiny novel cover in the bottom left corner actually seems to have an earlier version of the painting with a different design, with the anatomy of the lizard guy and the design of his sword being the most notable changes. It also looks like Alias' cleavage window was slightly smaller so I guess the artist got told to make it bigger, lol
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Apr 19, 2024 03:53
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The late 00s and the 10s were probably the worst for games trying to be Very Serious with devs who have no idea they even need to try to maintain a consistent tone, and as a result ends up sillier than sincere camp and cheese.
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Ambitious Spider posted:there was a meme I saw I think around when toriyama died that went something like "virgin creepy young guy vs horny old guy" an uh, wow should I have not googled to try and find it again We ran into a similar issue in a different thread where someone was googling for the 'goon discord' and it turns out goon means something different nowadays.
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Apr 19, 2024 03:57
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Tagichatn posted:We ran into a similar issue in a different thread where someone was googling for the 'goon discord' and it turns out goon means something different nowadays. Speaking of things that didn't age well
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Tagichatn posted:We ran into a similar issue in a different thread where someone was googling for the 'goon discord' and it turns out goon means something different nowadays. Haha I Googled it. 
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Apr 19, 2024 05:13
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Alias from D&D's Curse Of The Azure Bonds with her ridiculous cleavage window armor was a great example. They used this art over and over and over in magazine ads and on the cover of the novel and the tie-in computer game and RPG module and posters etc etc etc
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Randalor posted:Hideo Kojima should be ashamed for Quiet.
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Tiggum posted:If I were wearing that armour, I think my first concern would be not grating my nipples off. We can get to the issue of efficacy later. That’s what the Amulet of Natural Armour is for.
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Apr 19, 2024 06:07
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The Lone Badger posted:That’s what the Amulet of Natural Armour is for. Then your literally rock hard nipples are just wearing down the armour. Take it off and you're covered with metal shavings.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Alias from D&D's Curse Of The Azure Bonds with her ridiculous cleavage window armor was a great example. They used this art over and over and over in magazine ads and on the cover of the novel and the tie-in computer game and RPG module and posters etc etc etc I don’t know where that list of explanations is from, but the last time I looked at the Azure Bonds novel I believe it stated in the text that the ceremonial armor that Alias is depicted as wearing in the cover intentionally has a gap there. Why? Because it’s for Alias to wear when she’s about to be sacrificed, the hole is literally so a dagger thrust can easily pierce her heart as part of the ritual.
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Tiggum posted:If I were wearing that armour, I think my first concern would be not grating my nipples off. We can get to the issue of efficacy later. Cerebus the Aardvark of all things had a gag about this before the cheese slipped all the way off Dave Sim's cracker. He was poking fun at Red Sonja at the time. 
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Arivia posted:I don’t know where that list of explanations is from, but the last time I looked at the Azure Bonds novel I believe it stated in the text that the ceremonial armor that Alias is depicted as wearing in the cover intentionally has a gap there. Why? Because it’s for Alias to wear when she’s about to be sacrificed, the hole is literally so a dagger thrust can easily pierce her heart as part of the ritual. Easily pierce her heart? Through the sternum?? The people who wanted to sacrifice her either don't know poo poo about how to get to the heart properly or lied about their reasons for the gap!
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Arivia posted:I don’t know where that list of explanations is from, but the last time I looked at the Azure Bonds novel I believe it stated in the text that the ceremonial armor that Alias is depicted as wearing in the cover intentionally has a gap there. Why? Because it’s for Alias to wear when she’s about to be sacrificed, the hole is literally so a dagger thrust can easily pierce her heart as part of the ritual. Was about to say, a lot of the time I'm fencing that's exactly where I will aim for. Not ideal if they idea is protection...
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The Lone Badger posted:I actually found Miranda’s design more gratuitous than Jack’s. And then we get Samara. The Asari always jumped out to me too. Wow, the omnisexual space nymphs also mature into space MILFs, you don't say? Jack's design hovers around a plausible (or at least plausibly deniable) "trauma survivor expressing bodily autonomy" thing, which is something at least. Or maybe that just makes it worse.
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Samara's design gets even stupider when you do her side mission and get the option of replacing her with an evil succubus version of her for literally no reason.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Samara's design gets even stupider when you do her side mission and get the option of replacing her with an evil succubus version of her for literally no reason. Yeah but at least they play the option of loving the evil space succubus ok and it just sends you to the death screen instead of going in about your magic space genitals saving you or whatever. Nope, turns out loving the succubus is a bad plan.
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The main issue with Jack's design is they didn't lean into it hard enough. Like she's way too clean, conventionally pretty, healthy and not hosed up for the traumatised half feral punk look. Should have given her some gnarly injuries from her hosed up life and some off-putting but cool future body modding. At the very least she should have hosed up teeth and skin given her history. So all up she just looks like she's going clubbing. Not like. A fugitive half feral murderer who was subjected to human experimentation as a kid. That all said, I felt her 3 design was great and worked for where she was.
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A Sometimes Food posted:The main issue with Jack's design is they didn't lean into it hard enough. Like she's way too clean, conventionally pretty, healthy and not hosed up for the traumatised half feral punk look. Should have given her some gnarly injuries from her hosed up life and some off-putting but cool future body modding. At the very least she should have hosed up teeth and skin given her history. So all up she just looks like she's going clubbing. Not like. A fugitive half feral murderer who was subjected to human experimentation as a kid. yeah Jack looked more like she stepped out of a 90's World of Darkness rule book representing a hot Brujah, rather than a trauma survivor.
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