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Feb 10, 2009




South Park episodes are all out of date, as we now have the concept of 'writing jokes' in TV shows. Shows with no humorous elements at all, like South Park are very old fashioned.

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Feb 10, 2009




The best parts of Community is when the turn the meta tap all the way on and you get stuff like "Subway" being a character. The worst part is when they try and do anything romantic. It's such a mess of a show, I can't help imagine what it'd be like if the cast and crew didn't cycle out like they do.

That being said, we got Childish Gambino, Rick & Morty and a lot of Dan Harmon metldowns so maybe it's all for the best.

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Feb 10, 2009




Pick posted:

I agree, the best episodes of Community is when they go gently caress it and now they're in a KFC rocket ship.

I watched that episode about the same time Rick & Morty was announced and thought, yes, this is a good move as clearly Dan Harmon has no interest in reality of any sort. His podcast is also insane at times, he just gets so, so drunk and gives diatribes before playing D&D with his adopted man-son/assistant.

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Feb 10, 2009




Schubalts posted:

The bestworst one is still when Stabler stalks a rehabilitated pedophile, and constantly tries to get the guy to rape a kid. Like, seriously trying to make the guy find children sexually attractive again (poo poo like sidling up to him and whispering into his ear about how sexy little girls are), until he finally breaks and kidnaps a kid. The guy ends up jumping to his death.

The real bestworst is when Elliot & Stabler go to Europe to bust up a child smuggling ring. They're interrogating a dude and Stabler realises he's not subject to any NYPD rules and just beats the poo poo out of the guy. SVU is a weird show.

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Feb 10, 2009




Sunswipe posted:

How could any writer think that's how the law works?

It was cool and tough and 'justified' so it works. People think that if you're a cop outside of your home country, you can basically just murder fools.

My personal fave is when Horatio Cane guns down like eight people in the jungle of Brazil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntaWlFdc62g&t=181s

Crime Scene Investigators probably don't ever carry guns, but it's entertaining, so who cares?

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Feb 10, 2009




it's funnier than NTSF:SD:SUV:: IMO.

Yeah the colours are blasted up to differentiate it from original other CSI shows. Vegas CSI is neon-list and more often shot at nighttime, Miami has the cranked-up saturation and wild colours but is mostly during the daytime. New York I believe is super-desaturated, with a blue tint. I'm pretty sure they all mostly shot in Los Angeles, anyway.

I think CSI Miami uses the same colour grading that Arrested Development used for scenes set in Mexico.

well why not has a new favorite as of 14:09 on Aug 3, 2017

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Perestroika posted:

Setting aside the whole "extrajudicial execution" issue here, what the gently caress is going on with that editing? Slowmo! Fastmo! Bright flashes! Fades! Sound cutting in and out! It's like the editor had only just bought adobe premiere a day ago and went hog wild on all the effects.

CSI Miami is a very special program, and that's a very special episode. It's like one of the Rick & Morty interdimensional TV shows, sanded down just enough to fit into our world.


OldTennisCourt posted:

Plus I know for a fact Stabler and Benson have jumped on cops for making jokes and whatever at crime scenes a lot of the time.

Yeah, the regular L&O cops make some glib jokes, but SVU rarely looks down upon the victims due to the subject matter being so dark.

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Feb 10, 2009




I'm not exactly a hoo-rah military worshipper (far from it) but it'd be pretty funny to see the Martians just get blasted by UAVs the minute they touch down. UAVs are scarier than most alien tech in media.

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Feb 10, 2009




Ally McBeal was 100% replaced by Boston Legal in the sort-of-dramatic lawyer comedy.

It's also been basically forgotten apart from being a stable for aging leading actors and a host of character actors. Shatner, Spader, Larroquette, Auberjonois, Candice Bergen, Rhona Mitra.

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Perestroika posted:

Speaking of Boston Legal, in retrospect Alan Shore's (Spader's character) ongoing verbal sexual harassment of basically anyone in a skirt is pretty loving :stare:. I mean, the show at least does acknowledge he's a creepy lecher, but it's generally laughed off as just a character quirk.

That show has insane tone deafness. The two leads (Shatner & Spader) are gross, fat hornbags who treat everyone like poo poo constantly, but then it gets all sad about Shatner's character potentially, slowly, gradually losing some of his mental capacity due to being in his 70s.

The show has more sympathy for his slowly creeping 'mad cow' than like the six people he shoots during the course of the show. To say nothing of the victims of their lying, cheating and lawyering ways.

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Feb 10, 2009




Aesop Poprock posted:

I just rewatched the Malibu Stacey episode of the simpsons for the first time in probably like a decade and I'm sure it's been mentioned before but Smithers as a character is... weird. It's like half of him is an actual character and the other half is a raging gay sex freak or some awkward gay stereotype obsessed with dolls and cleanliness etc. The 90s was a really weird time for gay representations in media where it was like "hey these guys are people and deserve to be treated as such but... lol what the gently caress is up with them"

It's all so weird that the basically only gay recurring character is in a subservient job beneath an older man he pines for. It's definitely not meshing well with current culture. Note: I haven't watched the show in like a decade so maybe they've updated him a bit.

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Feb 10, 2009




Wheat Loaf posted:

From the first decade of the show, there's bits here and there but it's mostly implicit. There's the one where Mr Burns makes him take a vacation and he's shown staying at an all-male resort, or the one where John Waters guest-starred which had a scene which implied his character was going out with him, or the X-Files crossover where he panics when Mr Burns asks him if he's going to spend his weekend doing "something gay". Probably other examples, but those are the only ones that immediately occur to me.

HELLO SMITHERS

YOU ARE QUITE GOOD

AT TURNING

ME ON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7jOzQC3XOw

it's, um, not ever subtle

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Feb 10, 2009




I think it's interesting how Oz & The Wire tackled "masculine" homosexuality in the dark ages of the late 90s, early 2000s.

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Feb 10, 2009




Oz aged pretty ok I think. Almost all the characters are horrible people intentionally, rather than incidentally from a new context.

Lots of character actors and Law & Order transplants.

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Feb 10, 2009




To watch GoT in Australia, the minimum you'd pay per year is something like $200 for the first, then $100 every year after, provided you want it at approximately the same time as the US.

It's pirated en masse and is probably the #1 most pirated show and a huge incentive for people to figure out how to torrent. I don't know a single person who watches it through legitimate channels, but it's hugely popular.

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Feb 10, 2009




SNOW CRASH is still the gold standard for internet predictions.

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Feb 10, 2009




if i could have infinite free ipads i'd probably never use the multitasking features, i'd just have like 9

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Feb 10, 2009




That's a great bit, it would apply perfectly to most organisations today.

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Feb 10, 2009




Yeah they used to use fakenames, but now they just don't bother and say it's facebook or whatever.

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Feb 10, 2009




Teslas are cool, SpaceX is exciting, hyperloop etc all look great - but Elon Musk strikes me as a sleaze. The guy's got a messiah complex and and ego the size of his bank balance. The stuff about his plastic surgery and ex-wife seems like hitpieces, but that anti-union stance is pretty disgusting.

No one should trust, let alone worship the rich. Would Elon Musk do any of this stuff if it didn't make him money, or grant him power?

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Feb 10, 2009




Ugly In The Morning posted:

Almost entirely after the revival. The original run is still gold, but sadly no longer on Netflix.

I watched the original run religiously, owned all the DVDs, watched them all constantly... and instantly gave up during the Beast With Two Backs era. It was just different in a weird way, and kinda sleazy. Everything I've seen of the show since then makes it look like a pale shadow of the first four seasons.

They tried to do 'topical' humour (eyePhones) in a show set 1000 years in the future. It's aged about as well as the technology in The Jetsons.

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Feb 10, 2009




TF2 HAT MINING RIG posted:

Futurama was always doing topical stuff, it just got far less subtle when it came back. It also felt like there was more sleazy sexualizing of characters in new episodes.

Did it do anything as time-specific as iPhones, though? I remember they covered stuff like global warming, tax rebates and cola in the originals, but nothing that's quite as stuck-in-time as iPhone worship.

The sleaziness definitely ramped up after the movies, I remember exactly when it happened - Leila, under duress, has sex with Brannigan to save the world. It's upsetting, weird, cruel and coercive - and not at all wholesome.

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Feb 10, 2009




Archer's design is accidentally awesome, I love the 1950s - 1970s terminals, cold wars, muscle cars and space stations existing alongside smartphones and pop culture. It basically follows no rules apart from 'is it cool/appropriate for the show' and that's it.

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Feb 10, 2009




Best In Show is a near perfect example of the genre. Hopefully I haven’t forgotten it is filled with slurs or something.

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Feb 10, 2009




Monica Belucci showing up in a Bond movie was presented as great because she was 51, the oldest “Bond Girl”. She has like 2 scenes and iirc, treated pretty rough and Bond quickly hooked up with 30 year old Lea Seydoux. Movies huh.

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Feb 10, 2009




I wonder how Birdcage has aged. I don’t remember Robin Williams having any homophobic movies but it’s been a while. He always seemed like he might’ve swung both ways.

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Feb 10, 2009




High watermark for cartoon themes is still X-Men Evolution.

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Feb 10, 2009




Someone smarter than I could probably write a lot about how Iraq War / Afghanistan War veterans crop up in American movies and TV and how that compares to Vietnam vets.

Justified (a show that would almost certainly not be green lit or received well now, despite being pretty recent) had a lot of its character be veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan wars. It almost never glamorised the wars, but the soliders were treated as damaged heroes a lot of the time.

Gutterson plainly has PTSD from being in “the sandbox” and jokes about it in a concerning way. Boyd Crowder doesn’t talk about Iraq much but it’s implied he had his teeth blown out and repaired. He’s a bit of a psycho who seemed to enjoy the “blowing poo poo up” factor. Colt Rhodes (what a name) has plain PTSD and a heroin addiction. He’s kinda the most tragic because he’s a “double winner” who served in both wars.

They’re all pretty sad situations and the war is never explicitly condemned or supported. It’s just something in people’s past that sucks.

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Feb 10, 2009




The Biggest Loser had some drama in Australia when one of the contenders had a straight up heart attack - according to rumours, might need Frakes in here to clarify.

What’s not rumour is that one contestant was convicted of producing child pornography and hastily edited out.

It’s an oddly aged show ... feels weird to make a show about screaming at fat people to lose weight is oddly judgemental compared to recent culture.

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Feb 10, 2009




Gordon will abuse anyone who is dishonest or lazy, but is really kind to kids and amateurs. His UK show will have him go play football/soccer with kitchen staff to get to know them, or help them out in small ways. The US shows cut all that and focus on him cracking down on staff. He expects a lot of staff as many chefs do.

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Feb 10, 2009




Henchman of Santa posted:

The big problem with King of the Monsters was that you couldn’t loving see anything because it was dark and raining all the time. Just trust me to get over your CG looking shoddy, I’ll take it over any 20th century kaiju fare.

Though weirdly I love Pacific Rim which was also a very dark and wet movie.

Simply put : because Del Toro is one of the best to ever do it.

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Feb 10, 2009




Tbf the post did age well

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Feb 10, 2009




He’s about as good at this job as I am at mine

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Feb 10, 2009




My mum is rewatching friends during COVID (she’s millennial at heart, somehow) and is begrudgingly becoming a David Schwimmer fan. She loathes his character but has realised that he’s by far the best actor on the show and does what none of the others can do, every episode. I totally agree, the guy has amazing graphics comedic sense, despite being the “not funny” character. Matthew Perry’s the “funny one” but his main job is to sit back and be deadpan or sarcastic. Schwimmer is working hard every episode.

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Feb 10, 2009




Drew Carey Show was funny and he himself is an odd guy. He was a marine and the story with his girlfriends is certainly something. One he (apparently, rumour) found on a camsite and another was a sex therapist who was sadly murdered.

Interesting guy.

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Feb 10, 2009




He had a stiffy and fell directly on it. I believe it could happen.

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Feb 10, 2009




Keanu is also pretty good in Speed and Point Break. He has a niche that works well. Outside of that, it’s pretty shaky. Sometimes you get Devil’s Advocate, sometimes you get Neon Demon. Sometimes, Dracula.

I enjoyed Constantine but I won’t pretend he’s a great choice for the role. Like someone else said, he seems to be a nice guy and Hollywood has make-a-wished a b-tier actor to an A-lister.

Realistically, he’s about as good as a regular on CSI or a supporting role on like, Hannibal.

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Feb 10, 2009




Sure he has 3 characters but there’s a lot of those 3 dudes out there. It works fine.

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Feb 10, 2009




Deacon was always a relatively quiet person (electrical engineer by training) who just got a bit broken after Freddie died. He’s basically a recluse.

The others speak to him on occasion but describe him as very timid now. He still had to sign off on things, but is not involved much otherwise.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there were piles of songs of his archived at his home. He was such a gifted writer (and those bass lines, good god) it’d be terrible if he just gave it all up.

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Feb 10, 2009




granted I’m Australian but … damning a band to be as popular as AC/DC is pretty funny. As popular as an equally popular band? I don’t think anyone says AC/DC is as quality as Queen but they’re not exactly slumming it on that RSL circuit.

An actual thing that aged poorly is probably the lyrics for March Of The Black Queen, from Queen II. They quietly erased the N word from most available releases.

What’s aged well is the genius basslines that Deacon gave the world in Under Pressure, Another One Bites The Dust and Crazy Little Thing Called Love.

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